Turkey cries fowl on Swiss ban while Churches denied permits

From The Hurriyet Daily News, Turkey

Turkish Parliament speaker speaks out against Swiss ban

Wednesday, December 2, 2009

ANKARA – Hürriyet Daily News

Turkish Parliament Speaker Mehmet Ali Sahin says he opposes the minaret ban passed in Switzerland on Sunday, adding that basic freedoms cannot be put to a vote.

Parliament Speaker Mehmet Ali Sahin voiced his opposition to the Swiss ban on minarets on Wednesday, saying that it was wrong to put a basic freedom to a vote.

His remarks came during a meeting with his Finnish counterpart, Sauli Niinistö, in Parliament.

“In fact, it should have been expressed more loudly before the referendum that such a basic right cannot be the focus of a referendum. What were we going to discuss if the ‘yes’ vote emerged from the referendum instead of ‘no’ vote?” Sahin said. “Were we going to say, ‘Such a basic right cannot be the focus of a referendum’? I believe it is necessary to pursue a consistent policy toward this issue.”

The referendum put forth by the nationalist Swiss People’s Party labeled minarets as symbols of rising Muslim political power that could one day transform Switzerland into an Islamic nation. The initiative was approved 57.5 percent to 42.5 percent on Sunday.

“As far as I can see, Swiss government officials are also uneasy. The [Swiss] justice minister pointed to the European Court of Human Rights,” said ?ahin, hoping the situation, which worries Muslims living in Switzerland, would be corrected in the future.

The Finnish parliament speaker said this was not a usual issue for Finland, which believes that human rights and the freedom of expression should be respected. Such an issue cannot be submitted to a vote in Finland, he said.

In an interview with private broadcaster NTV, Swiss Ambassador to Turkey Raimund Kunz said the referendum result was a decision made by the Swiss people, not by the state. He made clear that the Swiss government was against the initiative and called on voters to say “no” in the referendum.

“This is not a vote against Islam and Muslims,” he was quoted as saying. “This is not a vote against their religion and praying. There are mosques in Switzerland. Muslims will be able to perform what their religion requires. This will not change in the future.”

The ambassador said the reactions would not cause the Swiss government to change its foreign policy, making clear that their policy of dialogue with Muslim countries would continue.

“I understand Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s reactions,” he said. “I hope we’ll continue our dialogue with Turkey.”

On Tuesday, Erdogan spoke out against the ban, calling it a reflection of increasing racist and extreme nationalist waves in Europe.

Meanwhile, as the Turkish Prime Minister likens the ban to European intolerance and extreme nationalism…………

Churches Impossible to Build or Restore in Turkey

Hate in the classroom: anti-Semitism in Canada’s high schools

“I don’t have to listen to you; you are not a person, you are nothing, you do not exist as a person.” “Don’t speak to me, don’t look at me, you are not human, you are a Jew.”(taunts by a student attending an Ontario high school aimed at his Jewish teacher).

From The National Post

Toxic classrooms

Confronting anti-Semitism in our high schools

Barbara Kay, National Post Published: Monday, November 30, 2009

What follows is an edited excerpt from testimony delivered at a hearing of the Canadian Parliamentary Inquiry into Anti-Semitism this month.

My attention has been drawn to the disturbing phenomenon of overt Jew hatred in high schools, especially those with high populations of students from countries where Jew hatred is officially sanctioned in the law of their countries of origin.

As a case in point I offer one particularly disturbing story, because I believe it points to wider issues of concern for the educational system and for our society. It involves a Jewish teacher in an Ontario French high school whose name I cannot reveal because she fears physical retaliation.

“Miriam” had taught in French language schools in the 1970s and 1980s in schools with large Lebanese Christian populations without incurring any anti-Semitism. In her current career she works amicably with Muslims. A child of Holocaust survivors, Miriam is demonstrably neither racist nor anti-Muslim.

In 2001 Miriam started teaching at a school largely populated by children of refugees, mainly from Djibouti and Eritrea, countries where there are no Jews but where hatred of Jews is deeply entrenched in the culture.

During the academic year of 2002-2003 Miriam started to encounter anti-Semitic taunts from students, such as “Does someone see a Jew here, someone smell a Jew? It stinks here.” When she reported this and similar insults to the principal, the principal did not follow up. Indeed, the principal seemed more concerned about the students’ sensibilities than hers.

The principal instructed teachers not to offend their Muslim students; they were not to look students in the eye, they were not to gesture with the forefinger to bid them approach and they were not to interfere with male students who were physically aggressive to male teachers.

During the invasion of Iraq, moments of silence were held in the classroom. Cultural presentations involved only Muslim culture and no Canadian content. Students were allowed to leave assembly during the playing of the national anthem.

The crisis of this story occurred when Miriam admonished a student for wearing a Walkman in class. The student screamed at her: “I don’t have to listen to you; you are not a person, you are nothing, you do not exist as a person.” When Miriam demanded he accompany her to the principal’s office, the student followed her down the hall yelling, “Don’t speak to me, don’t look at me, you are not human, you are a Jew.”

Although the student was ultimately suspended for 10 days, his parents expressed puzzlement about the punishment since, they patiently explained, the teacher was after all Jewish. They complained about the severity of the punishment to the school board. Continue Reading →

Hertz sued by non muslims for un-equal break times.

Hey atheists like time off too! I was waiting for this. Sooner or later someone had to realize that Muslims get several more paid breaks in the day than we infidels and this is to say the least, a little unfair. While the rest of us may not want to lift our arse away from Mecca, all people do have something they would rather do than work and be paid for it. h/t Solstice:

Hertz sued over Muslim prayers

Katie Barkley and Shirley Harris, who worked as part-time drivers moving Hertz cars from Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport to other locations, claim Muslim employees were given as many as three paid, 15-minute prayer breaks each shift while non-Muslim employees were denied equal time off, according to the suit filed Nov. 30 in federal court in Atlanta. Continue Reading →

Muslim males in Luton throw eggs at Muslim woman Peer in Luton

From the BBC: h/t The Baron

Tory Muslim peer pelted with eggs

Baroness Warsi, who was hit by at least one egg, debated with the men

Conservative peer Baroness Warsi of Dewsbury, named Britain’s most powerful Muslim woman, has been pelted with eggs during a visit to Luton.

Baroness Warsi was taking part in a walkabout in the predominantly Muslim Bury Park area of Luton when she was confronted by a group of protesters.

The male protesters accused her of not being a proper Muslim and supporting the death of Muslims in Afghanistan.

Baroness Warsi, who was hit by at least one egg, debated with the men.

The shadow minister for community cohesion and social action was then taken into a nearby shop.

‘Views challenged’

Baroness Warsi told the BBC that the men were “idiots who did not represent the majority of British Muslims”.

She said these type of protesters “bring Muslims into huge disrepute”.

“I stood up to this group and said I challenge your views,” she told BBC News.

“They just weren’t prepared to listen. They shouted. I said if you want to have this debate, listen.”

She continued her walkabout with a police escort.

One of the protesters against Baroness Warsi, Sayful Islam, told the BBC they were “against everything she stands for”.

He said: “She is not a practising Muslim. Clearly by looking at her she does not represent Muslims.”

He said he and his fellow protesters did not throw the eggs at her.

Baroness Warsi was named as one of the most powerful women in The Power List – chosen by a panel led by Trevor Phillips, chairman of the Equality and Human Rights Commission.

The award was set up to celebrate high performers in business, the arts, media, voluntary and public sectors.

Theo Van Gogh, and a fascist Dutch state.

The Dutch government has so much to be ashamed of in the events described herein.

I have been aware of it since I first read about it on Klein Verzet (The Little Resistance) some time ago. Perhaps two years or more. Where to begin? I would say with the murder of Theo van Gogh, an event which was profoundly hurtful to a good size segment of the Dutch population, perhaps a segment that until then had been unaware of Islam and its true nature.

One man, a Rotterdam artist, Chris Ripke, (who’s studio is right next door to the Mosque in the Insulindestraat [the Turkish Iskender Pasa Camii Mosque)  decided to do a fairly innocuous protest. He went to Rotterdam, and painted a small mural of an Angel, some Koranic text about peace at the bottom, and the words:” Though Shalt Not Kill” in Dutch across the mural.

A man representing the nearby mosque was of course, offended by the Christian sentiment on the mural and called the city and demanded it be removed. In point form, the city obliged and perhaps most horrifying of all, the police told all media present for the removal of the mural they may not film it and had their film taken away in keeping with the Dutch police of ‘non-escalation’. A few days ago, someone sent me a link to a video on youtube of this whole event. Apparently someone decided not to comply with the police request thankfully, and a group of us worked hard to translate and subtitle this as we feel as many people as humanly possible need to see this and understand its importance. Although this event is old, the presence of this tape is new to me and almost certainly new to the English speaking world. Here is the English subtitled video:

Removal of angel Mural, Rotterdam 2004 from Vlad Tepes on Vimeo.

Please pass this link around to anyone who cares about freedom of the press, freedom from Government interference in what we may or may not know, and freedom from what is referred to in s video as ‘The Political Police” something I bet very few Dutch people even know exist but clearly have a massive impact on what they may or may not know that takes place within their own nation and cities.

Here is a link to the Klein Verzet story on this. Below, a segment of it:

From Klein Verzet:

What a difference a few years make. When we started this blog, the Dutch had a reputation comparable to the Danes. But now it seems that the Netherlands has joined the madness of the UK, France, Sweden and Norway, in their mad dash to destroy the spirit of the native people, for diversity’s sake. Or, as Mark Steyn puts it:

In the Netherlands even the most innocuous statement can get you into trouble. To express his disgust at Theo van Gogh’s murder, the artist Chris Ripke put up a mural outside his studio showing an angel and the words “Thou shalt not kill”. But the cops thought this was somehow a dig at the local mosque and so came round, destroyed the mural, arrested the TV news crew filming it, and wiped their tape. The Dutch have determined to commit societal euthanasia, and dislike fellows pointing out it might not be as painless as they’ve assumed.

The staggering injustice of all of this is nicely put into words by Bruce Bawer, in a piece he concluded with these words:

In Dutch Muslim schools and mosques, incendiary rhetoric about the Netherlands, America, Jews, gays, democracy, and sexual equality is routine; a generation of Dutch Muslims are being brought up with toxic attitudes toward the society in which they live. And no one is ever prosecuted for any of this. Instead, a court in the Netherlands—a nation once famous for being an oasis of free speech—has now decided to prosecute a member of the national legislature for speaking his mind. By doing so, it proves exactly what Wilders has argued all along: that fear and “sensitivity” to a religion of submission are destroying Dutch freedom.

Well worth going over to Mark Steyn’s article on it as well:

There is an interview with the man who was arrested. I hope to add that transcript in English to the rest of this post as well very soon. In the meantime, I am going to have to ask myself as a Canadian,

What is it I am not allowed to hear or know?

How is whatever law is being used to isolate me from reality being selectively enforced as Mark Steyn so clearly points out in his article related to this? Here is the original youtube link with more information on this incident and links to other interviews and information. This may not be spectacularly violent or sexy as fascist expose’s go. But that is what makes this so important. We must familiarize ourselves with this and humiliate the Dutch government and thereby all western governments that would make it impossible for their own people to make healthy decisions for themselves by effectively blinding and deafening them. While the cop may not have been wearing jackboots, at least that would have gotten some people upset. With the Dutch policy of non-escalation, no one can know enough to be upset. But after all, isn’t that is what ‘non-escalation’ means?

Huge thanks to V.H. for the amazingly fast and excellent work on the translation, and to a flu ridden Baron over at the gates who despite being bed ridden with the rotten flu that is going around, edited the work before I subtitled it. This gives some idea of the importance many of us feel this has. It also is an amazingly rare exception to the Frank Zappa rule of getting work done. 1. Good 2. Fast 3. Cheap. Pick any 2.

Typically this is really true. However our team did everything well fast and free. Thank you again guys and of course to Klein Verzet for sending me the links and to A Certain Amount of Evil for sending me the original Dutch video in the first place a few days ago. Something I did not know existed. But something that by coincidence, did come up in a recent interview a few weeks ago, between The International Free Speech Society and Morten Meserschmidt

ADDITIONAL INFO: Please click here to read the Gates of Vienna post on this matter. He has more information including a transcription of an interview with the man who was arrested and more. Very thorough work by V.H. The translator (I made a mistake in the credits in the video) and The Baron.

___________ COMMENT FROM YOUTUBE WHERE THIS VIDEO IS HOSTED_________

right WHERE Theo was executed in cold blood a portrait of him was painted on a window shutter… not unlike the one in this video. The police painted over it IN THE NIGHT. Then it reappeared and was painted over again and so forth.
People paint THEO just his name, around the neighborhood. And the police paint over it. But they NEVER paint over gang signs!
I’m sorry to say this but the dutch police are nothing but cowards.
You can’t count on them to uphold the law. They bow to islam every time.

PJTV’s The Narrative

One of my favorite pieces from PJTV, this one I have posted before on Vlad but as sevenload.com elected to close my channel, I had to re-upload and here re-post. If you have not seen this before, please do watch. If you have, at least you know its here again should you wish to refer someone to it.

PJTV The Narrative plus History PC from Vlad Tepes on Vimeo.
Here is an update on Gladney Dec 3rd 09

Obama treats soldiers as cops, terrorists as full US citizens?

This is ulcer-worthy weirdness. Many possibilities of course for this kind of insane policy to be enforced in the US against it’s own forces, but what comes to my mind first is the notion that President Obama’s fantasy that the Islamic terrorist threat is a law and order matter, means that suddenly all the various branches of the US forces become police. Trained to treat all they encounter as suspects for a crime at worst with expecttions of being the cops who beat Rodney King if they do not act with all respect against people who are evil and dangerous beyond most of our imaginations ability.

From FOX News with a H/T to GOV Weasel Zippers Reportonarrakis

March 31, 2004: Iraqis chant anti-American slogans as the charred and mutilated bodies of U.S. contractors hang from a bridge over the Euphrates River in Fallujah, Iraq.

Navy SEALs have secretly captured one of the most wanted terrorists in Iraq — the alleged mastermind of the murder and mutilation of four Blackwater USA security guards in Fallujah in 2004. And three of the SEALs who captured him are now facing criminal charges, sources told FoxNews.com.

The three, all members of the Navy’s elite commando unit, have refused non-judicial punishment — called an admiral’s mast — and have requested a trial by court-martial.

Ahmed Hashim Abed, whom the military code-named “Objective Amber,” told investigators he was punched by his captors — and he had the bloody lip to prove it.

Now, instead of being lauded for bringing to justice a high-value target, three of the SEAL commandos, all enlisted, face assault charges and have retained lawyers.

Matthew McCabe, a Special Operations Petty Officer Second Class (SO-2), is facing three charges: dereliction of performance of duty for willfully failing to safeguard a detainee, making a false official statement, and assault.

Petty Officer Jonathan Keefe, SO-2, is facing charges of dereliction of performance of duty and making a false official statement.

Petty Officer Julio Huertas, SO-1, faces those same charges and an additional charge of impediment of an investigation. Continue Reading →

British schools entertain Islamic hate preachers. KKK strangely absent.

Here is a fine example of selective enforcement and why nothing like the fairness doctrine should ever exist in a free nation. Hell one could define a free nation practically by simply not having a fairness doctrine.

From Harry’s place by way of The Religion of Peace

“Kill gays” preacher feted at City University

Your View, November 22nd 2009, 4:36 pm

“The Vice Chancellor of City University London, Julius Weinberg, should resign. He is refusing to take any action after the Islamic Society hosted a fundamentalist preacher, Abu Usamah, who advocates the murder of gay people and of Muslims who give up their faith,” said human rights campaigner Peter Tatchell.

Abu Usamah was recorded on Channel Four’s television documentary, Undercover Mosque, as saying: “Do you practice homosexuality with men? Take that homosexual man and throw him off the mountain.” On Muslims who leave the faith he said: “If the Imam wants to crucify him, he should crucify him. The person is put up on the wood and he’s left there to bleed to death for three days.”

Abu Usamah was also filmed deriding women as “deficient”, inferior to men and intellectually “incomplete.”

Another speaker given a platform at the same City University event on 4 November, Murthadah Khan, was also caught on the Undercover Mosque documentary calling Jews and Christians “enemies” and “filthy”.

“It is utterly disgraceful that the student’s union has defended the
hosting of these two hate preachers, and that the Vice Chancellor has
not responded to complaints from students. These responses violate the equal opportunities policies of the university and the student’s
union,” added Mr Tatchell.

“They would never tolerate a white surpemacist who used racist abuse and advocated the murder of black people. Why the double standards?

“The Vice Chancellor seems unwilling to uphold the university’s equal
opportunities policy. He has failed to defend Muslim, Jewish, Christian, gay and women students and staff against this vile hatred. Having neglected to ensure that the university is a safe, welcoming place to work and study, Julius Weinberg should stand down,” said Mr Tatchell

CNN on the UN resolution on blasphemy

This is much more important than most people are aware of. The UN General assembly is considering a binding resolution on member nations (nearly all countries in the world) making it a criminal matter to say anything which may cast Islam in a bad light. This can actually include accurately reporting Islamic terrorists when they themselves expose their motives for their attack.

‘I’ll cut out your tongue’

Businessman Aurang Zeb outside Blackburn magistrates court this week

Businessman Aurang Zeb outside Blackburn magistrates court this week

MailOnline  A muslim who threatened to kill his wife and cut out her tongue after she blocked an arranged marriage for their daughter has been banned from seeing his family.

In the first prosecution of its kind, Aurang Zeb has been convicted of breaching a Forced Marriage Protection Order taken out to stop him taking Rozina Akhtar out of Britain to marry.

But despite his chilling threats he escaped imprisonment and was given community service. Last night campaigners condemned the sentence, saying it sent out the wrong message.

‘There’s clear evidence that this man threatened to kill his wife, so how can he be given community service?’ said Shazia Qayum of Karma Nirvana, a group which helps victims of forced marriage.

‘He should have been locked up. The law just isn’t strong enough at the moment, and it’s time the Government made forced marriage a criminal offence.’

Zeb, a former builder, set up a marriage between Rozina and his brother’s son while visiting their native Pakistan when she was just 19.

After returning home to Blackburn, his daughter decided she did not want to go through with it.

His wife, Parveen Akhtar, stepped in, explaining she had been pushed into an unhappy marriage to Zeb 24 years ago and did not want their daughter to suffer the same fate.

But he insisted Rozina had no choice, saying she was ‘dishonouring’ the family, magistrates heard.

Using laws on forced marriage introduced last November, police secured one of Britain’s first FMPOs against Zeb, 43.

He was ordered to forfeit his passport and barred from taking Rozina, now 23, to Pakistan.

But though he moved out of the family home after February’s ruling, he continued stalking them, Blackburn magistrates were told.

He would wait for Parveen in his car outside the house to accuse her of having an affair – which she denied, said Catherine Allan, prosecuting.

The father of two also harassed his son, Nasir Khan, almost running him off the road and demanding he attack Parveen and Rozina.

In one conversation, Zeb said that if Nasir killed them he would ‘only get five to seven years’ in jail. Continue Reading →

Pastor to be arrested for criticism of Obama? James David Manning

Whether you agree with this man about “Obama is a long legged Mac daddy” or you do not, whether you are a supporter of Obama or you are not, whether you are a ‘Birther’, one who believes that Obama does not have a legitimate right as POTUS as he was not born in the USA, or not, surely you do not believe he should be abusing the institutions of state to supress criticism. This is the absolute embodyment of the criticisms leveled daily at George W. Bush, but never manifested in fact or reality. H/T Gates of Vienna, first , the video where he announces his current scrutiny by the CIA and NYC police. Then the video that made this pastor famous.

Holland: PVV banned on number plates

From IFPS.ORG

PVV banned on number plates

By James Cohen • on November 14, 2009

Democracy is often thought of as being a system for polite mob rule. That is to say, a thing is decided because more people vote for it. I believe that is what is often called, ‘three foxes and a chicken voting on what is for dinner’.

Democracy more properly is a system of governance with specific rules and institutions that guarantee freedom for the people from government. An example, is a non partisan military. It is crucial for a democracy that the military not work for a specific party within a nation. This is why Chavez making his ‘Red Shirts’ or ‘Chavistas’ an official branch of the military is a direct move away from democracy.

In that spirit, the government of the Netherlands has made it illegal for people to have the letters “PVV” on a licence plate, the letters representing the Dutch Freedom Party, or the party of Geert Wilders.

The logic is, that the letters KKK are illegal as are NSB (the Dutch World War II pro Nazi party) and so on, and the government effectively now associates Wilder’s PVV with these groups.

This new law establishes two things. 1. a move away from the most basic principles of democracy in Holland by using an institution of the state to discriminate against a legal political party, and 2. sets a stunning example of why laws banning speech should not exist at all because the question will not be ‘IF’ any law limiting speech will be abused but when, by whom, and to what purpose.

Laws banning Nazi or KKK licence plates clearly have now been used to protect a ruling party against a truly liberal and democratic one as they grow larger in the polls. This is no small thing. But it is an excellent example of why no law should exist that makes it illegal to say or write a thing in public.

James Cohen

IFPS Canada

From Dutch News nl

PVV, the short form of the name of the anti-Islam party Partij voor de Vrijheid, has been added to the list of banned abbreviations for new car number plates, the AD reports on Friday.

PVV joins NSB (the Dutch World War II pro Nazi party), KKK (Ku Klux Klan) and TBS (psychiatric prison) on a short list of banned words, the AD says.

PVV does not appear on the list on the vehicle licensing authority website.

The authority says the new Dutch number plate system, two numbers followed by three letters and one number, has opened up the way for ’socially unacceptable’ words.

According to the paper, the authority has banned PVV because it could be insulting or encourage violence.

PVV leader Geert Wilders has asked the transport minister for an explanation.

© DutchNews.nl

Extinguishing Christianity one bit at a time

Two stories posted for Grace who had to run:

Two bits of tradition and indications of western civilization’s extinction on the way out. It becomes more and more obvious, that multiculturalism at best means no culture and much more likely, means the extinction of Western cultures and traditions to be replaced by ones hostile to it.

AshtrayBoth British and Americans keep finding new and clever ways of extinguishing each and every last bit of our heritage as Western people. Here are two stories where while a rationale for each can certainly be found and explained, it remains sad nonetheless. Remember, these kinds of reasoning never get applied to Islam. Much like how Belgium banned all religious symbols and clothing from employees in government buildings then made an exception for Islam as it was discriminatory. No Christmas carols in England? OK. But that wont make it possible for you to complain about the whine coming from the minarets the British will become increasingly familiar with in the coming decade.

From The Telegraph:

Signs warn Christmas carol singers away

They bring a message of “peace on Earth and goodwill to all men” but carol singers are to be warned away from doorsteps this Christmas in case they appear threatening.

By John Bingham
Published: 2:02PM GMT 11 Nov 2009

Carol singers: Signs warn Christmas carol singers away

Carol singers: Some church leaders said that the suggestion that people are now afraid of carol singers represented an alarming reflection on modern Britain. Photo: GETTY Continue Reading →

Fort Hood gunman had told US military colleagues that infidels should have their throats cut

It seems as if the Obama administration may have a difficult time whitewashing this as not a Muslim act of terror. Obama has already asked us not to jump to conclusions and of course, as this was not a white policeman doing his job arresting people breaking in to homes, I can see why he would say that. Obama only jumps to conclusions when he is wrong, and the object of that conclusion is a white Christian American.

Too bad Muslims typically don’t drink. No beer at the white house for Hasan I guess.

Meanwhile, back at Fort Hood:

From the Telegraph by way of The Religion of Peace:

Major Nidal Malik Hasan, the gunman who killed 13 at America’s Fort Hood military base, once gave a lecture to other doctors in which he said non-believers should be beheaded and have boiling oil poured down their throats.

By Nick Allen in Fort Hood
Published: 5:00PM GMT 08 Nov 2009

Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, the U.S. Army doctor named as a suspect in the shooting death of 13 people and the wounding of 31 others at Fort Hood, Texas

Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, the U.S. Army doctor named as a suspect in the shooting death of 13 people and the wounding of 31 others at Fort Hood, Texas Photo: GETTY

He also told colleagues at America’s top military hospital that non-Muslims were infidels condemned to hell who should be set on fire. The outburst came during an hour-long talk Hasan, an Army psychiatrist, gave on the Koran in front of dozens of other doctors at Walter Reed Army Medical Centre in Washington DC, where he worked for six years before arriving at Fort Hood in July.

Colleagues had expected a discussion on a medical issue but were instead given an extremist interpretation of the Koran, which Hasan appeared to believe. Continue Reading →