Ever since I started watching and documenting islamic behaviour in the west, one of the first patterns I noticed was the behaviour, followed by demands, at public pools. Town after town and country after country, broke their own laws on equality to create women only, and Islamic only swim times. Like public pools are critical to islamic survival. It was likely just the first part of the public space picked for conquest.
Thank you MissPIggy
C. sent in this related material. It is worth pasting this link into Chrome and having it translated. Yet another long list of data points showing how muslims have a thing about public pools.
An original translation from Hannoversche Allgemeine Zeitung:
Problems at the women’s bathing day
Guests violate hygiene rules
The women’s bathing day in the Vahrenwalder Bath is getting out of kilter. Bathing guests enter the pool fully dressed. The bath’s female employees aren’t able to assert themselves. The town is considering counter measures.
Hannover. The weekly women’s’ bathing day in the Vahrenwalder Bath is causing massive ripples. Hundreds of guests, allegedly, enter the non-swimmer-pool in Jeans and ignore other hygiene regulations too. They ignore the female employees’ warnings, even threaten the public servants. The employees now turned to the city administration. This is what sports’ department head Konstanze Beckedorf has just reported in the confidential part of the sports’ committee, according to information that HAZ obtained. The municipal politicians were stunned and demanded that the bathing regulations must be respected.
The city’s administration is officially answering the HAZ’s enquiry that the problem is known, and that currently, meaningful measures are discussed. „The cancellation of the women’s’ bathing day is not an option“, says city spokesman Ulrike Serbent.
Each Friday, the Vahrenwalder Bath is open for women only between 5PM until 9PM. Mothers can also bring boys up to the age of three. The women’s bathing day is, by all accounts, welcomed particularly by Muslimas. Now, numerous problems surface. Women enter the pool in street clothes, and dye their hair in the non-swimmer section. They enter the sauna in street clothes, too. Diapers are thrown into the paddle pond, dustbins used as toilets. Sometimes the women are having picnics at the poolside.
The female employees of the bath are now anxious. If they remind the bathing guests to adhere to the rules, this often prompts massive arguing. Some guests threaten to fetch their husbands and brothers. Allegedly, the bath’s employees have issued house bans for people, but these are being ignored. The female employees have now complained to the bath’s administration.
According to HAZ information, the administration is considering to position security staff at the entrance. Further, they consider employing a male pool supervisor, if necessary. The city intends to better regulate the influx of visitor on women’s’ bathing day in the future, and to prevent the pool from getting overcrowded. The majority of the town’s politicians welcome the planned measures. Abandoning the women’s bathing day should just the last resort, is the opinion heard from the politicians.
It is not the first time that there are problems at the women’s bathing day. In 2005, guests reported that women were getting into the pool fully dressed. The city administration denied this and called it rumors.
Most large German mainstream newspapers abolished their comment sections, or don’t allow comments under ‘sensitive’ articles. Only smaller local newspapers, like the Hannoversche Allgemeine Zeitung here, do. We seized this rare opportunity and translated a few of the German readers’ comments. You decide: Is there still hope, or is Germany lost?
Staunch Democrat 13.12.2017, 20:02:00
What, counter measures? The cultural competence of the female bath employees must be strengthened, and they should receive anti racism training.
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blackhawk60 14.12.2017, 06:50:00
Too much vagueness
There is too much “allegedly” in the text. It would be good to have clarity. Especially, before getting into a fret.
framue 14.12.2017, 07:42:00
Not vague at all
I can tell you from my own experience as a pool supervisor 20 years ago that an above-average number of muslim co-citizens do not adhere to the rules. Violent assaults were business as usual, theft, house bans, police actions.
Bodie72 14.12.2017, 08:23:00
The dream of multi culturalism, cultural enrichment, integration (and willingness to integrate), hand in hand with the readiness to unlimited self-denial, leads to the abuse of respect and freedom, and the opposite for those who grant the consideration. The daily living together is not made easier, but more difficult. If people don’t wake up in this country and oppose such bloomers, then we will have unbearable conditions in the near future. Folks, wake up, at last!
Nachodka 14.12.2017, 09:05:00
It’s not good to defame other bathing cultures like that. Where is the problem when someone enters the pool with fresh and clean street clothes? The pool has got an efficient filter system, and the water is chlorinated. We should have more consideration, and maybe simply join in the picnic at the poolside.
rene 14.12.2017, 09:56:00
These Muslim co-citizens partially live in parallel societies and have no will or readiness to integrate. “Islam belongs to Germany” For that to become true, some Muslims will have to change 180 degrees. If the circumstances depicted are true (and I suppose they are), then the Muslims living in Germany won’t be accepted, and they are just fostering stereotypes of rejection.
a human being 14.12.2017, 11:26:00
why not have a picnic in the bath? Of course, defecating into the pool and dying hair is a Nono, but apart from that I find the idea quite endearing to organize your trip to the swimming pool nicely. The food you can buy on site is disgusting and unhealthy – why not bring your own? A picnic is connecting, and eases the atmosphere. Why not walk new paths? Oh, right, because we are in Germany. The country that defines community by stiffly adhering to rules. Other cultures have more joy for living in daily life. I miss that. I do not enjoy swimming pool visits because I think the sterile, cold, impersonal surroundings is repulsive.
framue 14.12.2017, 11:49:00
@ a human being
Wonderful, we’ll come over to you, have a picnic and inspect your household. Don’t be awkward in this square Germany with no joy for living.
a human being 14.12.2017, 11:56:00
A private apartment and a public bath are different concepts.
Frank.H. 14.12.2017, 13:48:00
Unfortunately, I have witnessed several times that Muslim co-citizens relieved themselves completely in the showers and in the pool. Unfortunately, all respect is lost, there is no will, and there is an enormous aggressiveness. After we made a comment in the bath, they waited for us outside with an axe-knife.
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Berlin – another police officer has, anonymously, come forward, and confirmed an instructor’s allegations of intolerable conditions at the police academy Berlin Spandau, due to the high number of migrant students (see our original report from yesterday here).
Also, a newspaper has obtained an internal document from a Berlin police leadership meeting, which shows that the leadership long knew of the problems.
1. An original translation from B.Z. Berliner Zeitung.
New urgent reminder after instructor’s complaint:
November 2., 2017
By Axel Lier
What police Berlin will have to expect as new colleagues in the future “pushes the imagination to the limit!” An officer of the State Office of Criminal investigations (Landeskriminalamt, LKA) has spoken out anonymously in the discussion about intolerable conditions at the Berlin police academy.
After the serious accusations against police students with migration background who are in training in Berlin-Spandau, now an, in his words, “concerned police officer of the state of Berlin” comes forward in an open letter to police president Klaus Kandt (B.Z. have obtained the document). Earlier, an instructor had lamented intolerable conditions at the police academy Spandau – here is the full text.
The LKA-officer now comes to the instructor’s defense – and raises serious allegations against the police leadership! They were downplaying grievances, as for example at the academy in Spandau. The officer detects infiltration of police and justice by Arab clans, and, in his open letter, describes problems with police students with migration background.
„Pushes The Imagination To The Limit!“
He were police officer since 1986 and had seen his fair share of things. He writes: „In my whole professional career, I only feared police officers twice. The first time was at an assignment ‚Ongling burglary suspected, perpetrator probably armed with gun‘. When we entered the house, a colleague behind me loaded his gun, but the familiar ‘ka-klick’ of the decocker was missing. He only decocked the gun, after I had drawn his attention to it. Now, I am worried again, but more than about hat colleague who might have shot me in the back in the chaos. Because that, what we have to expect as new colleagues in the future, pushes the imagination to the limit!”
Treating Female Officers Like Cleaning Women
Die Welt reports that the police leadership was aware of the allegations for quite some time. The newspaper cites an internal document from a leadership meeting which they obtained. The percentage of migrants at the academy were currently 30%. Part of the candidates for police service can’t swim, even though this were mandatory for recruitment. They were treating female officers like cleaning women, it says.
But the police leadership were denying any dialogue and downplaying the grievances, says the officer in his open letter: “If an instructor goes public anonymously, then only, because the dialogue with the leadership that they were asking for is non-existent!” The leadership were “watering down, downplaying, and talking down incidents” and were “shrouded in silence”.
„Police bends even antisocials into shape!“
The officer quotes the internal intranet of the police in his letter: “Without anticipating the results, he (Mister Kandt) is of the firm conviction that it is the job of the police academy to socialize the students in such a way that they will show discipline, politeness and respect in their interactions with each other, as well as with their superiors, and the people of the city.“
But, so the officer, the academy cannot socialize the students:
„Socialisation – this is what I was taught at exactly this faculty – of a human being takes place at two places: in his parents’ home – this should be the norm – or in a correctional facility. The faculty is dependant on people who are already versed in the rules of social interaction, as well as in the official language German, as it is required by legislation.“
The officer continues in drastic words: „This is how I translate your statement: ‚The police will bend into shape even antisocials!‘ No, it won’t. If this were the case, then there would be no need for the police!“
The LKA officer in his letter also admonishes the subversion of public service and justice: “Without doubt we can state that the subversion by Arab clans has already begun“.
He had doubts “that this still was the same police where I started more than 30 years ago.“
Besides, the anonymous officer criticizes that the police vice president Margarete Koppers were allegedly treating applicants from Arab clans notorious to the police too liberal, and that notorious lawyers of the milieu represent her .
„Tolerance comes to an end when female superiors aren’t respected anymore“
The officer condemns further grievances in the academy:
„When female superiors aren’t respected anymore, because they are women, when the students refuse swimming training, because ‘someone unclean’ might have been swimming in the pool, then tolerance and welcome culture and ‚Multikulti‘ come to an end!“
Such people should „be shown the door, because they haven’ grasped the basic rules of our democracy, they aren’t socialized in the spirit of our laws, and the citizen out there can’t expect any help from people like these.“
„Just a matter of time when first shots will be fired“
It were „just a matter of time when between two colleagues of rivalling ethnicities at the police first shots will be fired“, the police officer worries.
He did not want to give his name, because „I trust the police leadership less than the colleague with the not decocked gun in my back.“
He closes his letter „with collegial greetings“ as a „concerned police officer of the state of Berlin“.
(with dpa materials)
2. An original translation from Die Welt:
By Michael Behrend
It appears that the leadership of the Berlin police knew of the problems with police students with migration background.
This is what an internal paper suggests. It talks about „condescending treatment“ of women, and deficits in the professional ethos.
According to information that Die Welt have obtained, there is a climate of fear at the academy.
Why this is relevant:
The debate about grievances at the academy was started by an audio recording in which the complaints of instructor about Turkish and Arab police students can be heard.
It appears that the leadership of the police Berlin had been aware for quite some time of the escalating grievances at the academy. Die Welt have obtained an internal paper of a leadership discussion from August this year.
Accordingly, the police academy laments problems, „that developed due to the recruitment of officers with migration background (currently 30%)“. For example, part of the candidates can’t swim, even though this is mandatory for recruitment. Besides, a „condescending treatment of female officers, as if they were cleaning women“, is Additionally, candidates lacked professional ethos.
According to Welt information, there is a climate of fear at the academy. “There were teachers who wanted to meet representatives of the parties to talk about the grievances. But pressure was exerted on them”, a leading police officer of Berlin says.
The spokesman for inner politics of the FDP in Berlin, Marcel Luthe, says: „The police union organized a meeting with us and teachers. It was cancelled.“ The debate about grievances at the academy was started by an audio recording in which the complaints of instructor about Turkish and Arab police students can be heard.
Die Welt were first to report on this. Police president Klaus Kandt announced that he received the audio file last Friday. The sender of the file was identified, and there was a talk with him. He was criticized for not having turned to his employer.
Luthe said: „I do not now a single case that had a different outcome than denying the problem. The police academy is directly subject to the police president, the dramatic problems that repeatedly occur are his direct responsibility. The academy needs a police leader with experience in duty and in teaching at its top.“
Luthe demanded that the interior senate take action. „No matter which stone you turn around, terrorism, a 15 percent increase in crime since 2011, the lowest clearance rate, areas where there is open drug dealing, and now the police academy – the leadership of the police Berlin is a total failure. How much longer will the Interior Senator ask the Berliners to put up with this?“