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The Muslim UK rememberance disruption is far more insidious than it appears.
I have been struggling over this video for some time. Well since Nov. 11th actually. The thing of it is, the Muslims have a right to free speech don’t they? So when they interrupt the 3 minutes of silence, as distasteful as that is, isn’t that their legal right?
Well, yes, and more importantly, no.
To quote my friend KitmanTV, who wrote ‘Scum’ on this video so that rightfully angry British people would not flag this propaganda video by Anjem Chaudery’s new group, ‘Muslims Against Crusades’, if person A got all the right permits to hold a concert in a park, and then some gang of people, lets say Christian Baptists who think rock music is of the devil perhaps, were to start screaming through a PA and hence destroying the ability of the band to put on a performance, you can bet that the police would escort this gang of sanctimonious morons right to jail for at least long enough to finish the concert.
Yet the police here do nothing.
Then we have (the more fitting perhaps) charge of treason. Most of these Muslims screaming about British soldiers are advocating treason in a fairly clear way. Yet the police seem only ever to arrest members of the EDL, who now, even European media admit nearly never start the violence but leftist thugs operating under the unlikely banner of ‘United Against Fascism’ (while demanding an end to freedom of speech and encouraging the return of medieval legal policies to Europe, go figure) are more typically the ones who plan and execute the violence at these events.
It seems as if the police just stand there and take it when Muslims actually attack the police physically. I am not aware of what Muslims in England can actually do to get arrested in that town, at least during a demonstration. Meanwhile, Tommy Robinson has had his home invaded by police, had his computers taken, his phone, and his parents home was also invaded and trashed by the British police in both cases wielding automatic weapons. “Machine guns”. His pregnant fiancée was arrested and charged with a bogus charge, purely intimidation.
It is almost as if, I mean, well if I had a bent towards conspiracy theories, as if the police have instructions to crush any dissent to the grand project of utterly destroying a British identity and foster the new Islamic culture and rules of England. Almost as if…
Then, we have the recent statements by Herman Van Rompuy president of the European Council:
Last night Van Rompuy gave a speech in which he condemned ‘the danger of a new Euro-scepticism. This is no longer the monopoly of a few countries. In every member state, there are people who believe their country can survive alone in the globalised world. It is more than an illusion. It is a lie!’ [Note, I can’t think of any state in the world outside Burma and North Korea that imagines it can survive alone. What Van R is attacking is any country and any people who imagine they are equipped to run their own state without an undemocratic superstate being in control. Damn shocking, those Swiss.]
‘The biggest enemy of Europe today is fear. Fear leads to egoism, egoism leads to nationalism and nationalism leads to war.’
What’s that old expression? ‘Just because you are paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t out to get you’? Well I guess by the same token just because most conspiracy theories are utter, and often dangerous, nonsense, doesn’t mean that very real conspiracies are not taking place which intend to obliterate all that you hold if not sacred, at least as important and meaningful.
All of this to say,
“Way to go Tommy” For taking that damn Jihad flag away from those bastards who would destroy our ceremony of remembrance to those great heroes past and present, who defended our nations from threats ranging from Hitler to Al Qaeda. If the police are under orders to allow the enemy to act with impunity against the people and laws of our great Western nations, then I guess it falls to us to defend ourselves and our past and cultures. You know, and perhaps it always did.
Eeyore for Vlad Tepes.
(More on the EU position on loyalty to ones own country and history and culture unless you are a Bedouin here)
UPDATE: And as if to prove my point, since I wrote and published this, Tommy Robinson was arrested and charged with assaulting a police officer and the video of him taking the jihad flag is being removed from all sites quickly.
Poppy-burning Muslim protesters mar Armistice Day commemorations as millions fall silent to remember war dead
UPDATE Sky News video of protest:
More video of grateful Muslims thanking British soldiers for helping protect the land they all moved to:
From The Daily Mail:
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 1:05 PM on 11th November 2010
Islamic protesters sparked fury today after they burned a model of a poppy and deliberately broke the silence at Armistice Day commemorations in central London.
As millions of Britons fell silent to remember those who have died in war, members of a group called Muslims Against Crusades clashed with police during an ’emergency demonstration’ in Kensington, west London.
As the clock struck 11am, the Islamic protesters burned a model of a poppy and chanted ‘British soldiers burn in hell’.
Shameful: Muslim protesters break the Armistice Day silence in central London today
Fanning the flames: The protesters burn a poppy while an English Defence League counter-demonstrator is led away from the scene near Hyde Park in west London today
They held banners which read ‘Islam will dominate’ and ‘Our dead are in paradise, your dead are in hell’.
The Muslims Against Crusades website includes graphic images of children wounded in warfare and the torture of detainees at Abu Ghraib. Continue Reading →
CNN and perversion of important concepts.
It never ceases to stun me how the largest and most influential sectors of mass media abuse important concepts for rhetorical purposes and think, or perhaps do in fact, get away with it. I think it was Goebbels who said, ‘if you tell a lie tell a huge one and you will get away with it’ or perhaps it was Hitler but in any case, CNN has decided to take that strategy and run with it no matter what.
For CNN, middle aged working people who believe in the rule of law, in the US constitution as an important document which should dictate the bases of laws in the US, of limited government power and freedom of the individual, in other words of ordinary Americans from the time of the creation of the USA to now, are extremists while a government that spends trillions of dollars without records, who seal all facts concerning the President of the USA’s own background, where the list of unprecedented seemingly anti-American actions is too long to post in one go, is the middle ground.
Add to that that the British government who now openly admits to trying to destroy a traditional England with mass immigration from Muslim nations is mainstream to CNN while a bunch of very typical British people who merely want the rule of law where rational law was invented with Magna Carta to remain, who want a genuine tolerant society based on British culture to remain in force, and who want to stop the utter transformation of traditional England into a Sharia-Islamic state where British citizens would find themselves as second class citizens in their own country with nearly none of the rights that they themselves have given even to Illegal immigrants from Muslim nations.
CNN should be on that list for the next round of Nuremberg trials if indeed we manage to get back to sanity in the western world. Someone somewhere, take down some names.
Tommy Robinson, You freaking rock my man.
From Amsterdam earlier today.
Here is a video from Dutch media showing the smashed bus by the purveyors of love and peace, the Muslims and the self titled: ‘Anti Fascists’
EDL DEMONSTRATORS CHASED BY MUSLIM THUGS CALLING THEM ‘ZIONISTS
This spells it out rather clearly, the Muslims know that the EDL are Zionists, and philosemitic, so outside of the EDL’s main emphasis of stopping radical Islam, it’s another reason that’s why the Muslims and the Left hate them. KGS
NOTE: This was posted earlier, but I wanted to place it with the other photos that just came in from the Amsterdam demo. Thanks to Henrik Clausen from Europe News for sending them in.
Paul Weston
NEWS FROM THE AMSTERDAM DEMONSTRATION
Here’s a video report from the Dutch state-TV program “Nieuwsuur” of the two spokesmen from both the DDL (Dutch Defense League) and ANTIFA, the brown shirts of the mulitculti self anointed elite. Nieuwsuur interviewed Bert Jansen (DDL), and Job Polak (AFA) who will be present today in Amsterdam, on either side of today’s demonstration assembled in support of Geert Wilders. KGS
NOTE: The TT will be updating this post as news filters in.
H/T: GOV
UPDATE: The Baron promises to have something soon up about the demo, but I found a site from the opposition who has been tweeting some of the happenings that took place already. By the looks of it, the Antifa thugs are gleeful.
UPDATE: THE BARON COMES THROUGH:
A Successful Counterjihad Demonstration in an Amsterdam Backwater
I just got off the phone with Elisabeth Sabaditsch-Wolff, who will shortly be one of the speakers at today’s demonstration at Generatorstraat in Amsterdam. The police moved the demonstration to the new venue at the last minute, and Elisabeth says it is an awful place — a bare patch of grass in the middle of nowhere, far away from anything.
The demonstration, however is a smashing success, according to Elisabeth and others at the site. The remote open location apparently attracted massive media coverage, and Elisabeth has given four interviews so far. While she was talking to me, Paul Weston was being interviewed by a French media outlet.
The “anti-fascists” had gathered at the nearby train station to try to prevent the demonstrators from reaching the site, but they were not successful. Ruffians reputed to be from the AFCA/Ajax football club were at the station, ready for a fight, but were chased away by the police.
Elisabeth says that there is a helicopter hovering over the field, police on horses, and fifteen to twenty police vehicles on the scene. There are more police than civilians.
The English Defence League’s minivan was smashed by the Antifas, and the EDL was asked (reportedly by the British police, strangely enough) to leave the demonstration early.
For that reason Tommy Robinson had to give his brief address ahead of schedule, and made some caustic remarks about the state of free speech in Amsterdam. He showed the audience that he had to wear a bullet-proof vest while addressing them, and had strong words say about the inability of the Dutch authorities to protect peaceful demonstrators. He said it was a disgrace that the mayor had shunted the demo off into the middle of nowhere.
While I was talking to Elisabeth, I could hear Gandalf (“The Younger”, of VV&D and the Alliance to Stop Sharia) in the background speaking to the crowd and chastising the Antifas who were heckling him for their inability to tolerate real democracy.
There will be photos later, and I hear that there are already photos posted here. There will also be video.
Stay tuned.
Kitman captured and uploaded this video from the pre-demonstration period
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- weakjur @hopenothate I hear Ajax’ ultras are rallied near the EDL to confront them #noracisminamsterdam outnumber them at least 5-1.
- atwwynne please can every one follow @hopenothate! doing a wonderful job in delivering news fast about the ridiculous EDL rally in amsterdam!
Dutch TV interviews the new, Dutch Defence League and others
This is a worthwhile clip. There is of course, a huge demonstration planned for Amsterdam on Saturday Oct 30 with some EDL members. This is an interview with the Dutch chapter, as well as a leader of the self labelled, ‘Anti Fascists’ where he is quite clear that it is them who typically initiates the violence.
Please read this post on the upcoming demo in The Netherlands:
The EDL has published a serious report on Islamic crime in England
It’s about time. Warning: I have not yet read this report myself, I plan to this afternoon. But here it is in case anyone wants to download and critique it.
Eeyore
A Consideration of Muslim Crime in the UK and the Response of the British Authorities
I. Introduction
Why we decided to produce this document
This document is an attempt to accomplish the following three objectives:
1. To draw public attention to the serious and worsening problem of Muslim crime, in the UK specifically, and throughout Western Europe more generally.
2. To draw attention to problematic aspects of the response of the UK authorities to Muslim crime.
3. To promote a public debate on the implications, short- and long-term, of Muslim crime for Britain and its people.
Who we hope will read this document
We hope that any and all interested parties will read this dossier. However, we particularly hope that people in the media, academia, the government, and the police force will engage with the serious issues it raises.
What do we mean by ‘Muslim crime’?
Muslim crime is simply crime committed by Muslims. That said, we have a particular concern with violent crime (up to and including terrorism), sexual crime, property crime, and organized crime as committed by Muslims. By the word Muslim, we simply mean all people of Muslim background and upbringing who have not explicitly renounced Islam, irrespective of how devout they are, or how observant of the requirements of their religion.1
Why focus on Muslim crime?
Of course, no single type of crime becomes any worse in and of itself simply by virtue of having been committed by a Muslim. Nonetheless, there are good reasons to be concerned about Muslim crime in its own right. These include the following:
1 The reasons for this definition will become clear later on, in Section V, which features a contribution from Dr. Nicolai Sennels, a psychologist from Denmark. To summarise here, the psychological attributes inculcated by Islam appear to be at least as significant in causing Muslim crime as conscious religious feeling on the part of Muslims.
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1. Muslims appear to be overrepresented as the perpetrators of serious crime to an extent which is far from trivial (this claim will be justified in greater detail later).
2. Terrorism and terrorism-related offences, a crime category in which Muslims manifestly make up a massively disproportionate fraction of all convictions, impose enormous indirect costs on millions of people for long periods of time.
3. Muslims throughout the West have pronounced and undeniable separatist, supremacist, and subversive tendencies. This being the case, Muslim crime acquires a significance above and beyond that which might be expected, due to the possibility of it being — and being perceived as being — motivated by these tendencies. To rephrase, some crime is „just? crime, whereas other crime will be perceived as being part of an ongoing inter-group conflict, and therefore possess the potential to further provoke that conflict. How much Muslim crime (or white crime, or black crime, or any crime, for that matter) is actually motivated by inter-group conflict is, of course, an empirical question.
4. The rate of growth of the Muslim community in the UK is extremely rapid, in both absolute and relative terms. Unusually high crime rates amongst this population therefore take on a significance they would not otherwise have.
What qualifies us to talk about crime at all?
This document has not been produced by professional criminologists. However, it has been produced on the basis of a belief that:
1. Citizens engaged in the civic life of their country have both a right and an obligation to consider such key topics as crime and community cohesion.
2. Educated people of good will are perfectly well-positioned to draw some provisional conclusions on these subjects on the basis of their own carefully-considered interpretation of information available in the public domain.
We do not pretend to have all the answers to the questions we pose in this document. Indeed, it is precisely those areas where data are poor, understanding limited, or interpretation difficult that we hope will draw increased attention in the future from criminologists, police officers, and politicians, as they attempt to address the serious problems that now afflict this country.
Given that this document is not academic in nature, we have not felt the need to include all the sources for the facts and figures herein. The more important or contentious the claim in question, the more likely it will be to have a source. More general information may be unsourced. Those who are sceptical about any of our claims are invited to do their own research and make up their own minds. Either way, we are confident that the factual claims made in this document are accurate.
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Why do we not discuss terrorism in this document?
With apologies to the Muslim Council of Britain for the hate crime no doubt implicit in our use of the term, Muslim terrorism has been a key public concern for so long now that we consider it to be a fairly well-worked seam. There is little we feel we can add to the discussion on terrorism, so we propose to largely ignore it in this document. We will reiterate, however, what we said above about how the indirect costs of terrorism (police budget, security services budget, airport security budgets, indirect costs through productivity losses, etc.) have not, to our knowledge, ever been calculated with any accuracy. This research should, in our opinion, be conducted so as to enable a better understanding of the costs of the presence of so many Muslims in our country.
Open and Download the full document HERE
EDL THREATEN TO “CLOSE YOUR TOWNS” OVER XMAS BANS
Do desperate times call for desperate measures? Actually yeah they do. Pretty much always. And the EDL are not far right. Geert wilders, not far right. Swedens SD? Not far right. Meanwhile, this story from The Daily Star:
26th October 2010
By Steve Hughes
A FAR-RIGHT group has vowed to “close down” any town that ditches British traditions and shows favouritism to Muslims.
The English Defence League said it has written to every council in the country threatening a mass invasion if they ban the word “Christmas”.
It includes using the term “winter festival” in case Christmas upsets Muslims.
EDL leader Stephen Lennon said “working class people” in the UK were “at boiling point” over what he says is the “Islamisation of Britain.
His declaration comes after yesterday’s Daily Star poll found 98% of readers fear that Britain is becoming a Muslim state.
He said: “If the politicians aren’t going to stick up for us, we will make them, because we will cause so much fuss and so much noise they are going to have to listen.
“We will not back down or be beaten into submission. We don’t care if you call us racists. We are coming anyway. We are going to continue doing it until someone listens.”
The EDL was set up last year after Islamic extremists hijacked a homecoming parade for British troops in Luton, Beds.
On Sunday more than 250 EDL members joined US activist Rabbi Nachum Shifren at an anti-Palestine demo outside the Israeli Embassy in London.
John Cruddas, Labour MP for Dagenham and Rainham, said: “All parties must search for a definition of modern England to choke off what the EDL taps into.”
Come to Amsterdam. Support Geert Wilders.
JPOST: British Jews should back English Defence League’
By JPOST.COM STAFF The Jerusalem post:
10/10/2010 14:23
EDL develops ties with American Tea Party movement; invites US Rabbi and Tea Party activist to speak on Sharia in London, reports the ‘Guardian.’
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The English Defence League (EDL), a British far-right group opposing the “Islamification” of the West and which is in contact with the US-based Tea Party organization, has invited Tea Party activist and senior Rabbi Nachum Shifren to speak about Sharia law in London this month, the Guardian reported on Sunday.
The EDL’s links with the Tea Party movement surfaced a day after roughly 1,000 EDL supporters demonstrated in Leicester, which boasts a large Muslim population, according to the Guardian.
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Shifren, who is running for senate in the midterm elections, said Britain’s Jewish community should support the EDL. “The Jewish community is paralysed with fear, exactly what most radical Muslim agitators want,” he said. “The people of England are in the forefront of this war – and it is a war. One of the purposes of this visit is to put the kibosh on the notion in the Jewish community that they cannot co-operate with the EDL, which is rubbish.”
Devin Burghart, vice-president of the Kansas-based Institute for Research & Education on Human Rights, was also quoted in the Guardian story, commenting on the Tea Party’s increasingly anti-Islamic views.
“As we move farther and farther away from the Tea Party origins, that were ostensibly around debt and bail-outs, social issues like Islamophobia are replacing that anger, that vigour. The idea that there is a war between Islam and the west is becoming commonplace,” he said.
2nd EDL speech from Saturday Oct 9 2010
Great opening title I might add…
More video of the EDL demo in England today. Leicester
So, some people say that the cry of “Takfir” or “Tafkir” or whatever it is, followed by “Alla hu Akbar!” Is not a Muslim battle cry. That would be a hard case to argue. Keep in mind, some of these videos were shot from the Muslim side of this conflict.
These videos found on: F Desouche
This last one gives some sense of the magnitude of what the EDL is becoming. Make no mistake, the EDL could become, and perhaps already has, a real geopolitical force. Add to that the police made very deliberate efforts to cause groups of EDL people to not meet. Most who went to the rally where deliberately held up so that they arrived hours late. Others were taken hours early and some never made it to the location because of the arrangement that the police made, to transport EDL members on specific buses, which of course, acted on a hidden agenda.
EDL Leader, Tommy Robinson speaks today at rally.
I was going to write something clever about the severity of the situation in the UK and how freedom is vanishing fast to aid and abet the rapid Islamification of England. Instead, Ill just ask you to watch this yourself and form your own opinions.
This needs to be seen…