Ottawa Citizen: Pakistan ISI and Mumbai conspiracies. Good read

The mayhem in Mumbai had barely subsided when I received the first e-mail suggesting the terrorist attacks had been carried out by agents of Mossad — Israel’s military intelligence — masquerading as Islamic terrorists to give Muslims a bad name.

A writer from Toronto forwarded a news item claiming, “India’s Internal Security Police are now holding and questioning an identified Israeli Mossad agent, who had been in communication with some of the alleged terrorists in India two weeks before the BLACK OP attacks took place.”

As ridiculous as this may sound, chances are countless Muslims are deluding themselves into believing that it is not their co-religionists who are responsible for the savagery let loose on India, but some hidden hand that is part of a U.S.-Zionist conspiracy against Islam. If at all there was an intelligence agency whose finger prints can be spotted all over the crime scene, it appears to be Islamist rogue elements from the Pakistan ISI, hell-bent on disrupting a marked improvement in India’s relations with neighboring Pakistan.


For two decades, the Pakistan Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) has been the de-facto government in Pakistan, toppling regimes, aiding the Taliban, giving cover to al-Qaeda fugitives, and running a business empire worth billions of dollars.
In July, the new democratically elected government in Islamabad led by Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani attempted to bring the ISI under civilian control, but under threat of a military coup, had to perform a humiliating about-face within 24 hours.

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India: Once again the canary doesn’t look so good

In that ‘The Jews ARE the Canary in the coal’ mine sense, the fact that they are singled out for attack despite any politics or other motive should be seen for what it is. Islam is waging it’s war on the world based on Quoranic tenants which are clear. The fact that the single out jews for special treatment in attacks and killing should assuage any lingering sympathies that Muslims are doing these actions because of any reasonable cause. There is no ‘oppression’ of Muslims in Israel or anywhere else that requires armed resistance. Islam is indistinguishable in its goals from Nazism in some ways (although granted the Nazis had a much better sense of fashion) or from Communists in its zeal to ensure that all of our ‘rights’ to live and think exactly as they do are fulfilled. Read on. From the NY Daily News

Friends say rabbi, wife held hostage

Thursday, November 27th 2008, 4:00 AM

A 29-year-old Brooklyn rabbi and his wife were believed to be among the foreigners held hostage by the terrorists that struck Mumbai, friends said early Thursday.

Gunmen seized the Mumbai headquarters of the Orthodox Jewish outreach group Chabad Lubavitch, run by Rabbi Gavriel Holtzberg and his wife, Rivka, according to media reports.

Shots were heard coming from the building.

“Our prayers are focused on Rabbi Holtzberg and all of those who are going through this ordeal,” said Chabad spokesman Rabbi Zalman Shmotkin. “They are extremely caring people, both of them,” he said of the Holtzbergs, who live in Crown Heights.

The New York-based group’s Web site said that Holtzberg had been in touch with the Israeli Consulate, but that the line was cut during the conversation and that “no further contact has since been established.”

India TV reported that the terrorists threw a grenade at a gas pump located in a station next to the synagogue. They then stormed the center and took people hostage.

A woman who ran out of the center said she was a cook at the synagogue and that five or six terrorists were still holding hostages.

“Far as we know, it is still under siege,” Shmotkin said.

Good article on the UN and the OIC who have destroyed it in spirit and deed.

Phyllis Chesler and others call for an end to support of the UN and the creation of the United Democratic States. An idea long overdue as the UN progresivly works more and more against its original mandate and objectives.

From Front Page Magazine

“In what one observer decried as “a very Orwellian moment,” the fight against radical Islam suffered a setback in the halls of the United Nations last Monday. Islamic countries won UN backing for an anti-blasphemy measure called “Combating Defamation of Religions,” which passed 85-50 with 42 abstentions in a meeting of the UN General Assembly’s Third Committee on November 23.”

The UN, created as a replacement for the defunct ‘League of Nations’ was intended to prevent anything like the Holocaust from occurring again. It clearly not only has failed to do so, (Rwanda is one of many genocides or attempted genocides since WW2) but is actively working on creating future ones in some ways. A google search for Durban conference I and II should provide ample evidence of that.

The Organization of Islamic Councils have pretty much turned all original UN purposes on their heads. When Yassir Arafat stormed the UN building with gunmen in the 1970s and was given an audience instead of promptly arrested we should have known then what was coming.

Kudos to Canada though for being the one nation with the moral fibre and courage to actually openly state it will not be attending Durban II. if a few more nations acted similarily we might be able to stop the tide of global Islamic fascism before it comes to open war. Like we see in India today and parts of Europe even if they don’t admit it yet.

Make no mistake. Islam and Islamic states fully intend to create a global Islamic caliphate and death is not merely the cost of doing so as they see it but a desirable fringe benefit. Anyone who has watched the events in Mombai the past two days and doesn’t get it yet may as well go join them. The time has come to line up and pick a side. Freedom, real rights for women minorities and alternative points of view, or Islam and it’s useful idiots the Western left.

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Mumbai. India’s 911 with profound condolences to the good people of India

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Thursday 6:23 PM EST dead 125 injured 325

Hard to write anything about what is a world shaking atrocity. I’m not sure short of a WMD what could be worse than a bunch of armed men shooting up hotels, hospitals for women and children, a Jewish community center where they are killing the Jews, hotels of historic importance and full of people being firebombed and people shot seemingly indiscriminately. These videos show a lot of whats going on and I will publish below an outline of Stratfor’s analysis of it to the extent their IP rules allow.

Here is a phone number for US citizens to find out about people in Mumbai 888 407 4747 (Thanks Wendy)

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from Stratfor:

“A massive and well-organized attack by militants in Mumbai, India, has left nearly 100 people dead so far, promises to cut deeply into India’s foreign investment prospects and threatens to rock India’s government. As India responds to the attack, its relationship with Pakistan will be front and center, and the potential for a destabilization of relations between the two geopolitical rivals is high.”

Stratfor focuses on the possible geopolitical ramifications of an already unstable India with a great deal of pressure on its government to react to a string of terrorist attacks from bombings in its commercial centers to shopping districts in the past months.

The group now perpetrating the attacks have a new name but are likely just the usual Pakistani ISI supplied (note the use of military explosives not typically available except through an agency like the ISI) usual Islamist suspects.

from Stratfor:

“Tactical Situation

The crisis is still in full swing with reports indicating that, along with earlier attacks carried out by gunmen on Mumbai’s central train station, a popular cafe and a theater, hostage situations have developed in two of the city’s most prestigious hotels — the Oberoi and the Taj Mahal — as well as in Cama Hospital and the Chabad House, where Jews and Israelis are currently being held hostage. Stratfor sources have said that the attackers approached their targets in boats with Pakistani markings; other sources have said the boats might have been registered in Karachi, Pakistan.”

It would appear that Jewish people are being murdered Chabad House by these attackers.

Potential escalation into war between India and Pakistan is a real possibility because of this. The ISI, Pakistan’s intel service has been accused of being behind a lot of attacks on India and Indian property such as the embassy in Afghanistan. These accusations came from the usually cautious Indian government.

Here is the complete 3rd Stratfor report on this situation which I have received tonight. I strongly recommend reading all of it.

Red Alert: Possible Geopolitical Consequences of the Mumbai Attacks (Open Access)

November 27, 2008 | 0434 GMT

Summary
If the Nov. 26 attacks in Mumbai were carried out by Islamist militants as it appears, the Indian government will have little choice, politically speaking, but to blame them on Pakistan. That will in turn spark a crisis between the two nuclear rivals that will draw the United States into the fray.

Analysis
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Militant Attacks In Mumbai and Their Consequences
At this point the situation on the ground in Mumbai remains unclear following the militant attacks of Nov. 26. But in order to understand the geopolitical significance of what is going on, it is necessary to begin looking beyond this event at what will follow. Though the situation is still in motion, the likely consequences of the attack are less murky.

We will begin by assuming that the attackers are Islamist militant groups operating in India, possibly with some level of outside support from Pakistan. We can also see quite clearly that this was a carefully planned, well-executed attack.

Given this, the Indian government has two choices. First, it can simply say that the perpetrators are a domestic group. In that case, it will be held accountable for a failure of enormous proportions in security and law enforcement. It will be charged with being unable to protect the public. On the other hand, it can link the attack to an outside power: Pakistan. In that case it can hold a nation-state responsible for the attack, and can use the crisis atmosphere to strengthen the government’s internal position by invoking nationalism. Politically this is a much preferable outcome for the Indian government, and so it is the most likely course of action. This is not to say that there are no outside powers involved — simply that, regardless of the ground truth, the Indian government will claim there were.

That, in turn, will plunge India and Pakistan into the worst crisis they have had since 2002. If the Pakistanis are understood to be responsible for the attack, then the Indians must hold them responsible, and that means they will have to take action in retaliation — otherwise, the Indian government’s domestic credibility will plunge. The shape of the crisis, then, will consist of demands that the Pakistanis take immediate steps to suppress Islamist radicals across the board, but particularly in Kashmir. New Delhi will demand that this action be immediate and public. This demand will come parallel to U.S. demands for the same actions, and threats by incoming U.S. President Barack Obama to force greater cooperation from Pakistan.

If that happens, Pakistan will find itself in a nutcracker. On the one side, the Indians will be threatening action — deliberately vague but menacing — along with the Americans. This will be even more intense if it turns out, as currently seems likely, that Americans and Europeans were being held hostage (or worse) in the two hotels that were attacked. If the attacks are traced to Pakistan, American demands will escalate well in advance of inauguration day.

There is a precedent for this. In 2002 there was an attack on the Indian parliament in Mumbai by Islamist militants linked to Pakistan. A near-nuclear confrontation took place between India and Pakistan, in which the United States brokered a stand-down in return for intensified Pakistani pressure on the Islamists. The crisis helped redefine the Pakistani position on Islamist radicals in Pakistan.

In the current iteration, the demands will be even more intense. The Indians and Americans will have a joint interest in forcing the Pakistani government to act decisively and immediately. The Pakistani government has warned that such pressure could destabilize Pakistan. The Indians will not be in a position to moderate their position, and the Americans will see the situation as an opportunity to extract major concessions. Thus the crisis will directly intersect U.S. and NATO operations in Afghanistan.

It is not clear the degree to which the Pakistani government can control the situation. But the Indians will have no choice but to be assertive, and the United States will move along the same line. Whether it is the current government in India that reacts, or one that succeeds doesn’t matter. Either way, India is under enormous pressure to respond. Therefore the events point to a serious crisis not simply between Pakistan and India, but within Pakistan as well, with the government caught between foreign powers and domestic realities. Given the circumstances, massive destabilization is possible — never a good thing with a nuclear power.

This is thinking far ahead of the curve, and is based on an assumption of the truth of something we don’t know for certain yet, which is that the attackers were Muslims and that the Pakistanis will not be able to demonstrate categorically that they weren’t involved. Since we suspect they were Muslims, and since we doubt the Pakistanis can be categorical and convincing enough to thwart Indian demands, we suspect that we will be deep into a crisis within the next few days, very shortly after the situation on the ground clarifies itself.

End of Strafor report.

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From Ottawa Citizen Thursday Nov 27

MUMBAI – Militants holed up at a Jewish centre in Mumbai, the embattled city where terrorist attacks have killed more than 100 people, have called an Indian television channel to offer talks with the government for the release of hostages.

“Ask the government to talk to us and we will release the hostages,” the man, identified by the India TV channel as Imran, said, speaking in Urdu in what sounded like a Kashmiri accent.