An evening with Daniel Pipes in Toronto

The newest schism in the counter-jihad seems to be based on the notion that Islam is inherently antisemitic, or inherently violent and with a central dogma of jihad for manifest destiny or is it some odd modern offshoot of Islam that started after WW2 and has created all the problems and the solution is to fight that and embrace the other.

Daniel Pipes and a few others went to speak in Toronto at a synagogue representing the second set of positions more or less. The audience did not take to it very well. I will post the speeches as I get them. For now, the Q&A after the lecture is quite interesting. Daniel Pipes makes what at least appear to be disparaging remarks towards Pamela Geller, who has done rather exceptional work in terms of preserving freedom of speech within the US and winning important victories as well as at least publicly presenting the case that Islam and its influence in the Western world has a negative impact. She was one of the first to do it, and do it under her own name. The audience did not take well to that either.

More to come but it can all be seen here at

Daniel Pipes world view Vs. Andrew Bostom.

I havent followed this quite as closely as I should have. So I may have some of the subtleties wrong in terms of what Mr. Pipes is selling.

As far as I can tell, he has two basic points he wishes people to accept.

1. Antisemitism is not inherently islamic but the province of some modern post-state-of-Israel variant of islam and is a consequence of the creation of this state.

2. The horror we see everywhere from muslims operating on scripture and instructions from various islamic authorities and scripture, are not really the religion of islam so much as that variant and perhaps certain organizations such as the muslim brotherhood etc.

Not wishing to get into the ‘True Scotsman’ logical fallacy, here are some info bits that may or may not help the uncertain make up their own minds.

Remember, The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was operating for decades before the creation of the modern state of Israel by the U.N.

An excerpt from Daniel Pipes article on his own website:

PIPES: My view is that anti-Semitism of this sort is historically a Christian phenomenon, but, in the course of the past two generations, as a result of propaganda coming out of the Egyptian government, the Iranian government, the Iraqi government, the Saudi government of this sort, it has become pervasive.

Now here is an article from Andrew Bostom:

And below, an excellent documentary from German/French TV on Islamic-Nazi alliances

Crime or jihad?

H/T oz-Rita

Daniel Pipes:

 by Daniel Pipes
February 24, 2013
Cross-posted from National Review Online, The Corner

A recent spate of killings in the United States of non-Muslims by Muslims has gone unnoticed by the major media. Here are four cases I know of:

What Planet Does John Kerry Live On?

Daniel Pipes

The two-day old tenure of Secretary of State John Kerry got off to a flying start today with an astonishing statement from his ambassador to Egypt, Anne W. Patterson, at a joint ceremony in Cairo to mark the delivery of four American-made F-16 aircraft:

U.S. Ambassador to Egypt Anne W. Patterson.

Today’s ceremony demonstrates the firm belief of the United States that a strong Egypt is in the interest of the U.S., the region, and the world. We look to Egypt to continue to serve as a force for peace, security, and leadership as the Middle East proceeds with its challenging yet essential journey toward democracy. … Our thirty-four year security partnership is based upon shared interests and mutual respect. The United States has long recognized Egypt as an indispensible  partner.

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