The ‘intefada’ comes to Ottawa Canada

H/T Fred at GAR

An incident in Ottawa

Nick Bergamini: The Cost of Supporting Israel

This is from a Facebook entry of Nick, a student at Carleton University….

Tonight I went out to the bars downtown. It was a great night with my roommate Mark Klibanov. Around 1:45am, as we were leaving the bar, and we heard the shout of “Zionist” in Arabic. As it stands now, we weren’t sure if the shouts were directed at myself, a known a supporer of Israel, or Mark, an actual Israeli.

Quickly, we both responded that yes we were Zionists. All of a sudden we were surrounded by 10-15 men who began to shout at us in Arabic. We tried to back out and run away. All of a sudden, I was struck in the back of the head. I’m not sure if it was a fist, a rock or a pipe but it left me dazed and bleeding.

We quickly ran back to the bar and stood beside the bouncers. The crowd of anti-Israel thugs dispersed.

About 10 minutes later, assuming that it was safe, we began to walk home. We were walking through a parking lot when a car pulled up next to us. The driver shouted “I fucking hit you, you Jew.”

We stood our ground. Quickly we had three guys around us. We were able to push them away. As the cowards that they were, they retreated. Then I heard, shouts of “Open the trunk!” One of them opened the trunk and I saw glistening in the street light the reflection of a 12-inch machete. “Fucking Jew,” he shouted. I began to run for my life as he was only 5 or 6 feet away.

I ran, and as I looked back, I saw the long shiny blade slicing through the air about 12 inches from my neck. I ran as fast I could and, thanks to my grade 9 track and field training, got away.

People who were around the scene said the blade came within inches of my neck.

Now, the debate on campuses has reached the next level. In this country, people are no longer safe if they support Israel. But you know what? I will never take back my beliefs. I support Israel 100 per cent.

But I will say this. Some of the guys who tried to kill us are Carleton students and I recognize who they are. What is this country coming to?

**** Update thanks to Blazing Cat Fur police report filed ****

**** UPDATE #2 The victim of this attack will be on the Michael Coren show Tuesday (tomorrow) April 6 at 6:00 PM EST ****

Blazing is right on top of this. Check that site for updates and info on this.

Michael Coren writes on the matter here

About Eeyore

Canadian artist and counter-jihad and freedom of speech activist as well as devout Schrödinger's catholic

34 Replies to “The ‘intefada’ comes to Ottawa Canada”

  1. Eeyore – I read this at Fred’s, but I am wondering about this incident. Was it checked out? What is Nick’s last name? Why is he not saying whether he reported the incident to the police or not? There are too Qs here and not enough answers. Why did Nick and his friend walk out after just 10 minutes of finding shelter with the bouncers of the club? Were they stupid enough to think that a rowdy anti-semitic gang of 15 could just disperse in 10 minutes? Why didn’t they call a cab? Something is not kosher with this tale.
    I am going to G&R to ask him the same thing.

  2. Disgusting and just not a surprise. This makes me ill and one reasosn why I am firmly believe in our 2nd amendment and right for CCW. I am licensed and carry! Cowards and racists is all they are.

  3. This has gone too far and I’ve had enough of these muslim shiiteheads. I think we should take our cue from the EDL and start our own Defense League, then start kicking a** and taking names – all the way to the courthouse and throw these murderous, theocratical, 13th Century camel-h*mpers in the darkest prison, never to see the light of day again. F*****s.

    /pardon the potty mouth, folks.

  4. WTF. If he knows who they are, report them to the authorities. There were two, at least, as witnesses. If it ain’t followed up, it will only enable further Islamic inspired violence in my capital.

  5. I can see gangsters not reporting this kind of attack; but I have trouble seeing college kids thinking they should deal with it internally, as it were. Unless the folks under attack intend to turn outlaw, they have some responsibility to the greater community as well as to their own safety to call the police and to give them as much co-operation as they can.

    I’ll go with this as is and hope for the best.

  6. Not everyone is articulate, and not many of us would ever try to fix our own automobiles or defend ourselves in court or operate on our own tonsils; so too, we shouldn’t all assume we are capable or competent to act as theorists and activists in the struggle against jihad. I look to others for expertise and guidance in my own small efforts, to Robert Spencer at Jihad Watch, for example, to help my efforts to understand Islam and dhimmitude. I look to, in some sense, the EDL to provide guidance in acitivism. When I find what I feel is the best of theory and activism, then I lend my own small support to those. I ain’t Superman. I ask others for advice, and sometimes, if I like it and find it valuable, I take it.

    I meet people each week on Thursday evenings to discuss with them various issues regarding Islam and Left dhimmi fascism, what it means, how to act against them in defence of common decency. we meet at the public library to discuss and exchange idea and to make plans. No one can do this alone. No one is so smart.

  7. I am SHOCKED and STUNNED that members of the Religion of Peace would resort to violence. Surely they have been provoked…perhaps one of you casually mentioned that their “prophet” was a pedophile?

  8. Its not enough for them to have rape gangs but arselifters now appear to be looking for people to kill.

    The question is, are people going to fight back or just stay off the streets?

  9. Gary Rumain asks the right questions, “Are we going to fight back?”

    My question is, “What does that mean?”

    Who are “We”?

    What does fighting mean in real terms?

    Who or what are we supposed to fight?

    And that’s just the beginning.

    I’m not suggesting the question above isn’t serious; my point is that it takes many people a long time to come up with simple answers to the very complicated question Gary raises. Who will begin this serious debate? Lives depend on it.

  10. Something like this only happens in the UK. Now that there is a larger muslim population there will be more acts of terror in Canada. The problem is most Canadians are in denial that this kind of thing never happens in Canada.

  11. Hello, there. We’ve in Vancouver, Canada, and we’ve been meeting at the public library for three or four years now on a weekly basis. It started from my efforts on the Internet to call people to action against Islam and Western dhimmitude. During those years we’ve held meetings around the world, from all across America to Australia and England, France and Belgium, Singapore and beyond; and we’ve had visitors from nations far afield, from rocket scientists and philosophers, from plumbers to lawyers to folks just dropping in because they can because we’re available.

    In these years, which I began promoting at Jihad Watch back in early 2004, we have seen the birth of Tea Parties, of Defence Leagues, of people resisting the media-led dhimmitude that shackles the mind and terrifies the people into silence that is now breaking into furious outrage against the lies we’re so often and consistently told by the intelligentsia. we are people’s movement.

    In the years we’ve been conducting public meetings we have attended and organised public lectures, for and against, and we’ve attended and counter-attended demonstrations, met with friends and foes, faced threats, made friends, and conducted ourselves bravely and fearlessly in the face of hostilities the usual person should never face in democracies. but never, and I would recall it, have we been attacked by thugs wielding machetes while walking home of an evening. This is too much for the average man to accept as acceptable. The question is, what is the alternative to being too afraid to venture out of doors? to risking limbs or life? to sit watching as societies we choose to live in are over-run b violent thugs who will kill? who have killed, will kill again and again till they are stopped.

    We know there are no easy answers because the very question, “What is to be done?” is maddeningly simple and yet nearly impossible to answer even so. No one man or woman among us is so smart that he or she knows what exactly to do. I am blessed here to have the good company of some of Canada’s finest thinkers, some intellectuals of world-class abilities; and they, we must be thankful, haven’t got answers sufficient to solve our societal problems. There is among us no one man who, with god-like Obama omniscience, tells us all the answers to all questions; no Great Leader who sees all, knows all; no dictator who dismisses as wrong all others among us but his own vision. I deal with serious and sophisticated intellectuals whose natural humility, if I were a better man, would shame me, men and women, some banished from the halls of academe, living in a wilderness of free-thinking and honest morality, an intellectual wilderness flowering and lush with ideas and truth. Some among us have traded the life of ease and status for a life of the mind that is, I argue, Honest, in opposition to the sterility of the norm of our time, the dhimmitude of our politically correct, multicultural dhimmitude. Smart, decent, honest men and women do not need the accoutrements of success in dhimmitude. Far better to be an honest and intelligent man of little prestige than to be a czar of high renown in corruption. Give me an honest plumber every time. Socrates’ best friend as the town tanner, a man whose job entailed stinking to high Heaven. I’ll take him too if he’s an honest thinker. He could never stink so bad and a dishonest intellectual.

    Among my friends and collegues here, I am the only one who associates with the bloggers at the English Defence League. I am happy to associate with footies and pub-brawling men who defend the realm. My friends here have friends I don’t know. I don’t dislike them. I don’t know them. I know that we altogether must create a covenant to renew our societies and to keep such renewal open to possibilities forever as the world and its peoples’ need change, no final diktat given down from on Obama-high to we the lowly. All democrats are welcome among our group.

    Having perhaps belaboured that point, the question remains: “What is to be done?” It is crucial in this time of unrestrained violence against our fellows as they walk the streets in the night. Perhaps tomorrow our friends and fellows will be unsefe in daylight, and we too. What, immediately, is to be done?

    I’m sorry to say, what must be done is talk. we cannot, we not knowing all there is to known, know what we must do. We must talk and join minds in common battle against the foe that threatens us all immediately. Some of our talk, happy to say, can take place on buses en route to demonstrations against mosque-building, for example. but talk we must. we need, as have our enemies, a base. Lone men are helpless in this struggle. To act together, first we must meet and talk to each other.

    That is the greatest defence; and it is the greatest offence against our enemies.

  12. ISLAM = NAZI OF 21st CENTURY
    MOHAMMAD = HITLER

    You stupid!!!
    Islam Will soon Spread in the west like it spread here in the east by the force of sword and by “Farming Children”…
    AND STILL FIND PEOPLE DEFENDING ISLAM!!

    May God enlighten our way…

  13. The more I find out about Islam – the more obvious that Geert Wilder’s claim that Islam is retarded is right on the money. And the more I support Israel and sympathise with Jews.

    Muslim hypocrisy knows no bounds – they are the first to cry ‘discrimination’ and accuse people of ‘Islamophobia’ – yet the first to act to silence any of their critics in any way possible – and always the first to instigate violence towards Jewish people. Many of them are completely against Western values and should never have been allowed to settle in the West. It doesn’t take much for Allah to start giving them messages as the exemplary behaviour of our medically trained army psychologist from Ft. Hood will attest.

    And the multiculturalist f%^ktard losers who support the Muslim fifth column in the West are always there to help them carry on with with their anti-semitism. They just can’t quite grasp the concept that they are being used by muslims.

  14. Islam does not fit in western society and it never will for one simple reason:moderate Muslims are not true Muslims. Mohamed is very clear about how infidels should be treated:convert, kill or tax. If Muslims want to join western society they must turn their back on Islam. Not an easy thing to do even if they wanted to.

  15. Canada is full of these koranimals – born here and given a diet of jew hating, christian hating, Israel hating and US hating food from their parents, their imams and Imam Michael Harris from CFRA.

  16. Just wanted to say that while descibing a group of thugs as racist is accepatble, issuing racist blank statments and anti Semitic remarks agianst all Muslims is just wrong. You are doing exactly what those thugs did when they called you a zionist or stereotype you as a Jew. We all gotta learn that treating thugs like these the same way will only escalate the circle of violence. I am all for reporting them and even getting them arrested and put in jail, but to say that all Muslim are 13 century camle h*****ing shirheads is just wrong and uncivilized.

  17. Just this Sunday a guy called Muhammed put two plain metal stents in one of my coronary arteries and saved my life. It’s kind of funny, actually, ’cause I was at vladtepesblog reading about the very real perils of Islam, when the heart attack started. Next thing you know, I’m lying on my back in the cath lab, dying in agony, then Omar Sharif leans over me, smiles, and says, “Hi, I’m Muhammed.” God has the greatest sense of humour. Alahu Akbar!

  18. I just looked up “Semitic” on Wikipedia. Arabs are most definitely Semites. So are a lot of other people, actually.

  19. Chris Jones,

    My bad. I guess all this misunderstanding of Islam where muslims kill each other, like the 50 or so today in Baghdad is really just rampant anti-Semitism, and not terrorism.

    Who knew.

    But my other question still stands: What race is Islam?

  20. Chris Jones’ etymological contortions must hurt by now. Semites, if we look to the etymology, casually refer to the descendants of Shem; but that’s too far a stretch to make much difference in the world of reality, wherein, as Wittgenstein suggests, and rightly so in a case like this, “Do not ask what the word means, ask how it is used.” But because Chris Jones is being too cute and too clever by half, let’s look at the etymology and the usage just to be clear:

    “Semtism” was coined by the German historian August Schlözer, c.1781), “denoting the language group that includes Hebrew, Arabic, Aramaic, Assyrian, etc. In recent use often with the specific sense “Jewish,” but not historically so limited.”

    http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=Semite

    “Antisemitism,” 1881, from Ger. Antisemitismus, first used by Wilhelm Marr (1819–1904) Ger. radical, nationalist, and race-agitator, who founded the Antisemiten-Liga in 1879; from anti- + Semite (q.v.). Not etymologically restricted to anti-Jewish theories, actions or policies, but almost always used in this sense. Those who object to the inaccuracy of the term might try H. Adler’s Judaeophobia (1882). Anti-Semitic (also antisemitic) and anti-Semite (also antisemite) also are from 1881, like anti-Semitism first in an article in the “Athenaeum” of Sept. 31, in ref. to German literature.

    http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=anti-Semitism

    Despite the use of the prefix “anti,” the terms Semitic and anti-Semitic are not directly opposed to each other. Antisemitism refers specifically to prejudice against Jews alone and in general,[3][4][7] despite the fact that there are other speakers of Semitic languages (e.g. Arabs, Ethiopians, or Assyrians) and that not all Jews speak a Semitic language.

    The term “anti-Semitic” has been used on occasion to include bigotry against other Semitic-language peoples such as Arabs, but such usage is often rooted in political purposes and is discouraged by language authorities.[8][9]

    The word antisemitic (antisemitisch in German) was probably first used in 1860 by the Austrian Jewish scholar Moritz Steinschneider in the phrase “antisemitic prejudices” (German: “antisemitische Vorurteile”).[15] Steinschneider used this phrase to characterize Ernest Renan’s ideas about how “Semitic races” were inferior to “Aryan races.” These pseudo-scientific theories concerning race, civilization, and “progress” had become quite widespread in Europe in the second half of the 19th century, especially as Prussian nationalistic historian Heinrich von Treitschke did much to promote this form of racism. In Treitschke’s writings Semitic was synonymous with Jewish, in contrast to its usage by Renan and others.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism#Etymology_and_usage

  21. Just keeping you honest in good conservative fashion, Kaffir_Kanuck. And I share your frustration with the naming thing. I don’t like the people who blow subways up, make head-removing videos, and devote their lives to destroying our way of life; and I don’t like the way, the minute you try to name them, someone has a reason why you should shut up. Let’s just come right out of the closet and say it. We are in a fight to the death with the religion of Islam.

  22. I wonder what percentage of a given nation has to wake up to the raw facts of ‘the fight to the death with Islam’ before we start to fight back in any meaningful way, or indeed at all

  23. I don’t know, Eeyore. Adolf Hitler, Vladimir Lenin, Mao Zedong…they came and they went, but Mohammed is still going strong, fourteen centuries and counting. Islam is like some weird alien machine, completely counter-intuitive to our western minds, almost comical in its primitiveness, but in the end it works like a cracker-jack. Argue with this: the default condition of human governance throughout history is tyranny-by a mile. Right? What we have, in this small collection of Western Democracies, is rare, wonderful, and fragile. Am I Islamophobic? Do I have an irrational, neurotic fear of Islam? No. It just plain scares the shit out of me!

  24. Chris Jones. Don’t you think the “death for apostacy” and the iron fist Islamic states use to hold thier citizens in check may be the reason Islam is still going strong?

  25. Chris J: Fear of Islam is neither neurotic or irrational. In fact, the disease should be applied more accuratly to the multiculturalists who seem to think that Islam is a fine addition to the western cultural tapestry and women’s rights and minority rights can be flushed down the toilet for it and not be in contradiction to the kind of liberalism they claim to advocate.
    Actually several books have been written on this exact idea already. All this to say, if Islam does not scare the shit out of you, then indeed you have a mental problem. If it does, that’s not a phobia, that’s just having at least one eye open.

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