This might be why
There is a great deal in the comments on this right now. It is well worth checking out. Yesterday’s as well.
Editing and subtitling is going to take up a lot of time today, but there is fantastic material on the way,
So please do check the comments linked above. Turkey may have put the match to the tinder box which is the large numbers of Muslims in Europe.
Wrath of Khan made this explanatory video. The only thing we are uncertain about is what may have been an error in another site’s referral to the Turkish foreign minister as the family minister, which is echoing on many sites.
I believe however that it is the Turkish FM who was banned from speaking in the Netherlands.
Richard adds:
Turkey has a family affairs minister:
Ministry of Family and Social Policy (Turkey)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ministry of Family and Social (Turkey) Aile ve Sosyal Politikalar Bakanl???
T.C. Aile ve Sosyal Politikalar Bakanl???.jpg
Headquarters of Ministry of Family and Social Policy in Ankara, Turkey.
Egri Nok clears it up:
both have been banned from speaking in the Netherlands.
Both the Foreign Minister, and after he was banned, the Family Minister.
al jazeera – FRANCE – METZ – Mevlut Cavusoglu continues verbal assault on Holland
Turkish officials continue name-calling barrage as dispute over political rallying in foreign nations intensifies.
Turkey’s leaders continued their verbal assault on the Netherlands on Sunday with its foreign minister accusing his NATO ally of being “the capital of fascism”.
Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu made the comments in France where he spoke to whip up support among Turkish immigrants for constitutional reforms to expand the powers of the Turkish presidency.
On Saturday, Cavusoglu was denied landing rights by the Netherlands, where he planned to hold a rally in Rotterdam. Holding political rallies for another country’s domestic policies is illegal in Holland.
“The Netherlands – the so-called ‘capital of democracy’ – and I say this in quotation marks because they are actually the CAPITAL OF FASCISM ” Cavusoglu said on Sunday in the northeastern French city of Metz.
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said on Sunday at a rally in Istanbul that it was appropriate to accuse the Dutch government of “Nazism and fascism” because “only those types of regimes would bar foreign ministers from travelling within their countries”.
Erdogan also said during a live televised address that the Netherlands would “pay the price”.
The crisis with the Netherlands is the most serious yet as tensions spiral between Turkey and its EU allies over the desire of top Turkish officials to hold rallies abroad ahead of the April 16 referendum on a new constitution that would give Erdogan greater powers.
The Netherlands is home to some 400,000 people of Turkish origin, and Ankara is keen to harness their votes.
Family Minister Fatma Betul Sayan Kaya was expelled from the Netherlands after being prevented from addressing a rally in the Dutch port city of Rotterdam on Saturday.
The latest row came after NATO allies Turkey and Germany sparred over the cancellation of a series of referendum campaign events there.
“The West has clearly shown its true face in the last couple of days,” Erdogan said. “What we have seen in the last days is a clear manifestation of Islamophobia.”
After the unprecedented diplomatic fight, Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte said on Sunday he would seek to control the damage caused by the weekend incidents. He denounced the comments about fascism.
“This country, as the mayor of Rotterdam pointed out yesterday, was bombed during the Second World War by the Nazis. It’s totally unacceptable to talk in this way,” Rutte said in The Hague.
The diplomatic fight comes at a tough time in the Netherlands, which has national elections on Wednesday, and where issues of Dutch identity and relations with migrant communities and Islam have taken centre stage.
In a neck-and-neck race, the parties of either Rutte or populist firebrand Geert Wilders could end up with the most votes.
Rutte said it was important for his government not to bow to Turkish pressure, especially, he said, after Ankara threatened sanctions if the Dutch kept its ministers out.
“Turkey is a proud nation; the Netherlands is a proud nation. We can never do business under those sorts of threats and blackmail,” said Rutte.
Still, added the prime minister, his government “will keep working to de-escalate where we can. If the Turks choose to escalate, we will have to react, but we will do everything we can to de-escalate”.
The Dutch foreign ministry said on Sunday that Turkish authorities are responsible for the safety of Dutch diplomats in Turkey.
Meanwhile, Denmark’s Prime Minister Lars Lokke Rasmussen proposed on Sunday postponing a planned visit by Turkey’s Prime Minister Binali Yilderim this month because of the diplomatic row between Turkey and the Netherlands.
France urged Turkey and several EU member states to calm tensions.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/03/mevlut-cavusoglu-continues-verbal-assault-holland-170312141645541.html
RT -France: Cavusoglu stokes fire between Turkish and Netherlands ahead of Metz rally
Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu vowed that Turkey will respond to the Netherlands’ decision to bar him from landing in Rotterdam where he was due to hold a campaign rally, ahead of a speech in Metz on Sunday.
Cavusoglu arrived in Metz to hold a rally, where he said that Turkey will respond imminently and will not simply “swallow” how they have been treated by the Netherlands. Turkish Foreign Minister stated that the country had already started to kick a response into action.
SOT, reporter (Turkish): “How can this crisis be overcome?”
Mevlut Cavusoglu, Turkish Foreign Minister (Turkish): “First of all, there will be a response to this. We will not swallow it. An apology wouldn’t be enough . We have already started to respond. The Netherlands Ambassador left the country for a planned trip, we have asked him not to come back. There are other steps we will take which we have already started to plan. For sure we will make the move. We will make exceeding moves for sure. Then the Netherlands will make an apology to Turkey. We will take those steps until they make the apology because there is no part to defend here. I told them decently, to their foreign minister, “if it is going to be a problem for you, I would come after your elections”, he responded as, “I cannot guarantee after the elections period.” Then I told him to ask his prime minister. Before he responded to my request, their prime minister, Rutte, said, “Cavusoglu cannot come neither before nor after the elections”, in arrogance. He added, “if he comes he would see just the tulips and museum but not the Turks. Would there be more fascistic perception than this? Would there be more violent attitude to the human rights and freedoms than this? Would there be more defiant reply than this? I have made this offer decently to help them, as they have surrendered by Wilderson. I don’t have to come before the elections, he said “no, we are principally against your visit, even after the elections”. The mentality is different here. The issue is not the elections here. Therefore, neither the present government nor the liberal and social democrat parties have no difference than Wilders. Where is Europe going? Europe is heading to a cliff. Europe is going to times before the Second World War. When we sound this they feel so sad. But it is for real.”
With threats like that Holland can’t back down, this is going to end in a major war, it may take several months or possibly until next year but it is coming.
reuters – Turkey’s Erdogan says Netherlands acting like a ‘banana republic’
President Tayyip Erdogan said on Sunday the Netherlands was acting like a “banana republic” and should face sanctions for barring Turkish ministers from speaking in Rotterdam, fuelling a row over Ankara’s political campaigning abroad.
Erdogan is looking to the large number of Turks living in Europe, especially in Germany and the Netherlands, to help secure victory next month in a referendum that would give the presidency sweeping new powers.
In a speech in France, Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu described the Netherlands as the “capital of fascism” as it joined other European countries in stopping Turkish politicians holding rallies, due to fears that tensions in Turkey might spill over into their expatriate communities.
The Dutch government barred Cavusoglu from flying to Rotterdam on Saturday and later stopped Family Minister Fatma Betul Sayan Kaya from entering the Turkish consulate there, before escorting her out of the country to Germany.
Dutch police used dogs and water cannon on Sunday to disperse hundreds of protesters waving Turkish flags outside the consulate in Rotterdam. Some threw bottles and stones and several demonstrators were beaten by police with batons, a Reuters witness said. Mounted police officers charged the crowd.
The Dutch government – set to lose about half its seats in elections this week, according to polls, as the anti-Islam party of Geert Wilders makes strong gains – said the visits were undesirable and it would not cooperate in their campaigning.
“I call on all international organizations in Europe and elsewhere to impose sanctions on the Netherlands,” Erdogan said, after his prime minister earlier said Turkey would retaliate in the “harshest ways”, without specifying how.
“Has Europe said anything? No. Why? Because they don’t bite each other. The Netherlands are acting like a banana republic,” Erdogan said in a speech in Kocaeli province, near Istanbul.
“NAZISM WIDESPREAD IN WEST”
A day earlier, Erdogan described the Netherlands as “Nazi remnants” and returned to the theme on Sunday by saying “Nazism is still widespread in the West” in what Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte said were inflammatory remarks.
“We ended up in a totally unprecedented situation in which a NATO ally…with whom we have historic ties, strong trade relations, is acting in a totally unacceptable, irresponsible manner,” Rutter told reporters.
Rather than the Netherlands apologizing for refusing the Turkish ministers entry, Turkey’s president should apologize for comparing the Netherlands to fascists and Nazis, he said.
The row risked spreading on Sunday as Denmark’s Prime Minister Lars Lokke Rasmussen proposed postponing a planned visit by Yildirim this month due to the dispute.
The French foreign ministry urged calm and said there had been no reason to prohibit a meeting in France between Cavusoglu and a local Turkish association.
Supporting Rutte’s decision to ban the visits, the Dutch government said there was a risk of Turkish political divisions flowing over into its own Turkish minority, which has both pro- and anti-Erdogan camps.
DUTCH ELECTION
The diplomatic row comes in the run-up to next week’s Dutch election in which the mainstream parties are under strong pressure from Wilders’ Party for Freedom (PVV).
Experts said it was too early to tell how events in Rotterdam might affect the election. “If there is any impact, however, it is likely that Geert Wilders and his PVV Party will profit most,” said Leiden University professor of electoral research Joop van Holsteijn.
After Turkey’s family minister was escorted into Germany, Wilders tweeted: “go away and never come back”.
The Dutch government cited public order and security worries in withdrawing landing rights for Cavusoglu’s flight and Turkey fired back saying the Dutch ambassador to Ankara should not return from leave “for some time”.
Hundreds of protesters gathered outside the Dutch embassy in Ankara and consulate in Istanbul. Police sealed off both sites.
German Chancellor Angela Merkel has said she will do all she can to prevent Turkey’s domestic tensions spreading onto German territory. Austria and Switzerland have also canceled Turkish rallies due to the escalating dispute.
European Parliament Vice President Alexander Graff Lambsdorff demanded a ban on Turkish ministers campaigning in the EU.
“The European Union should agree on a line that Turkish ministers are not allowed to campaign in the EU,” he said.
“The Dutch are showing how it is done, the German government pussyfoots around … in that way Turkey can try to play one country off the other,” he told Die Welt newspaper.
Turkey: Netherlands ‘will pay’ for barring Turkish Ministers – Erdogan
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan promised the Netherlands “will pay” for Saturday’s “scandal” in which Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu and Turkish Minister for Family and Social Policy Fatma Betul Sayan Kaya were respectively blocked from speaking in Rotterdam, as he addressed the crowd at a rally in Kocaeli on Sunday.
SOT, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Turkish President (Turkish): “We are patient now. We will blast this issue away with patience, and ask for the pay off. This would stay here. What has happened in the Netherlands is diplomacy, international law, the practices, the kindness has been trampled on. Any voices raising from Europe? No. Why? They won’t bite each other. They won’t. They are the same. The Netherlands has not behaved like a European Union member, a State of Law. It behaved like a Banana Republic . The whole world saw how distant those countries which have been lecturing Turkey about law, democracy years and years [are] to those values. Now they are trying to find a cover to their impudence. No matter what ever they say, ‘spear cannot fit in a sack’. The name of the thing is ‘scandal’.
THE NETHERLANDS WILL PAY FOR THIS VULGARITY FOR SURE .
I am calling all those institutions working with the motive of defending democracy, the European Union organs, the human rights defenders to raise their voices against the Netherlands, and further more to implement sanctions against the Netherlands.”
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-turkey-referendum-netherlands-idUSKBN16J0IU
Turkey: Ankara will respond to Dutch ban of ministers ‘in the harshest way’ – PM Yildirim
Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim stated that Turkey will respond “in the harshest way” against the Netherlands for blocking their ministers from holding rallies in their country, as he addressed a crowd during a referendum campaign event in Yalova on Sunday.
Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu and Turkish Minister for Family and Social Policy Fatma Betul Sayan Kaya were both blocked from speaking in Rotterdam on Saturday.
Yildirim said that the way Kaya was treated by the Dutch government is “intolerable, unacceptable,” as the European country has “restricted freedom of travel and forced our minister to leave the country by challenging all the international diplomatic rules.”
SOT, Binali Yildirim, Turkish Prime Minister (Turkish): “The treatment to our Minister of Family and Social Policies in the Netherlands, yesterday, is intolerable, unacceptable. The Netherlands restricted freedom of travel and forced our minister to leave the country by challenging all the international diplomatic rules. Everybody should know that: Turkey will respond to this in the harshest way. And whatever it takes, all the necessary precautions will be taken to prevent our people to face this kind of treatment in the future.”
SOT, Binali Yildirim, Turkish Prime Minister (Turkish): “Who is against this change [the Presidential system]? HDP [Peoples’ Democratic Party] is against it. Germany is against it. FETO [Gulenist Terror Organisation] is against it. The Netherlands is against it. Then there is something wrong with this. In that case we will say yes. We will fulfill the ballot boxes and give them the well deserved answer.”
Turkey may have put the match to the tinder box which is the large numbers of Muslims in Europe.
This is a very apt description of what is going on in Europe, If/when the Turks in Holland and Germany start rioting in favor of Erdogan the riots will spread to all European nations. I doubt if they will stay in the Islamic ghettos this time, the mood seems to be that the Europeans have to be shown who is boss. I don’t know what the mood of the majority of people are but from what I have seen earlier the mood of the resistance is to move in with machine guns and put the riots down.
Turkey has a family affairs minister:
http://www.dw.com/en/turkish-family-affairs-minister-blocked-from-entering-rotterdam-consulate/a-37907660
Ministry of Family and Social Policy (Turkey)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ministry of Family and Social (Turkey) Aile ve Sosyal Politikalar Bakanl???
T.C. Aile ve Sosyal Politikalar Bakanl???.jpg
Headquarters of Ministry of Family and Social Policy in Ankara, Turkey.
The Ministry of Family and Social Policies (Turkish: Aile ve Sosyal Politikalar Bakanl???), established in 2011, is a government ministry of the Republic of Turkey, responsible for family affairs and social services. The ministry is currently headed by Fatma Betül Sayan Kaya. She assumed office on 24 May 2016.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Family_and_Social_Policy_(Turkey)
Picture of the Minister
https://sputniknews.com/europe/201703121051495913-turkey-netherlands-social-minister/
RT – Netherlands will pay the price for its shameless treatment of Turkey’s minister – Erdogan
You made your bed. Kick the goatfuckers out or kill them
Could this be the beginning of the end?
Is this correct usage: “Jumped the Shark”?
While the media is concentrating on Holland Germany and I think Austria has also banned Turkish political rallies, This means Holland won’t be the only nation where the Turks will attack, and Austria seems to be better prepared for an attack by the invaders then the other Western nations.
Yes Yucki I think Turkey jumped the shark by moving way too soon.
“…Turkey jumped the shark by moving way too soon.”
If there is one single trait that characterizes Islam, it is overreach.
Please recall that there are many Muslims who remain furious with Osama bin Laden for launching the 9-11 Atrocity. Their ire has nothing to do with besmirching Islam’s supposedly “peaceful” reputation. Nor does it arise from such barbaric and needless loss of human like.
The majority of Muslims who disparage bin Laden do so because he tipped ummah’s hand before Islam had acquired sufficient strength (i.e., nuclear or other weapons of mass destruction) in order to fulfill its proclaimed goal of global jihad.
Turkey has pulled its power play one or two decades early. Absent any meaningful pushback, in just another ten or twenty years, Europe will be so overwhelmed by its internal immigrant skirmishes to where Turkey’s current threat of unleashing another deluge of military colonists (hat tip: Daniel Greenfield) would see Europe cave like a Chinese crash test.
Remember folks, there’s only one thing to tell a politician from Turkey: GET STUFFED!