37 Replies to “Interesting interview with German author. The mood of Europe is changing”
I hope this new attitude of stadning up to these 6th century trogs and telling them to return to the muslim hell hole of their choice, or we will beat you and your 6 wives, spreads here.
I feel hopeful for theWest after watching this video and have found beaucoup respect for Hans und Franz ( at least some of them) who act like 300 lb gorillas in the face of islam.
Germany is mighty country. To give you an example of this let us add the gdp of Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Iran, and Egypt. This give us 2762 billion dollars on a purchasing power parity basis according to figures from the CIA fact book. Now what is the GDP of Germany? According to the CIA fact book it is 2 trillion 812 billion. So just by it self Germany is more than a match economically for the big economies of Allah and his desert muslims who mainly live off oil and tourism (turkey). Saudi has oil and tourism of the “religious” sort (haaj) My point in making this comparison is that Germany carries weight and the direction it moves can effect the whole continent of Europe. A German man like this is a movement away from the madness of polical correctness and into a new reality. One which states we are in an ideological war with the imperialistic ideology of Islam.
The worse things get the more acts like this we will see, if my reading of history is right it will end with the Europeans driving the Moslems out of
Europe.
I see Germany in the 21th century becoming a great force of good in the world, almost like it’s reversing its traditional role.
The two countries to watch are France and Germany.
France first, as it does not carry Nazi guilt. As both countries are very close, France could well set off the Tsunami, while Germany, stating that it is “reluctantly” supporting its major EU partner in its fight for freedom and against Islamofascism, will follow.
As these two countries are, for all practical purposes the EU, the EU will go along with it. That leaves Britain, but this time on the wrong side of the war against fascism.
I hope though, that people will recall the many words of Churchill on Islam, and start to take action to remove Islam from Europe.
arabconqueredpersian
I visit Germany and Switzerland quite often. What has struck me is the sheer power of the German economy. Unlike the rest of the West which has de-industrialised and exported industrial power to China while adopting the soft cyber economy, Germany has built on its industrial heritage and German aptitude for precision engineering. This further leverages into high end software products, which are unavailable elsewhere in the world. Thus de-industrialising is actually cause is harm in the very industry we put all our eggs in.
The result is that the power of the German economy cannot be just measured in EUs, but in what it can do with it. For precision engineering in high pressure or vacuum conditions, and in adverse temperature conditions of any kind, even Japan, leave alone China, are no match for Germany. This is because Germany has continued its natural advantage of being the leader in Chemistry (materials science and technology), as well as its long heritage as an industrial/technological/scientific power.
We in Britain OTH, have trashed our heritage in almost every sphere, whether scientific, technological, social and spiritual.
DP111 is correct re;Britain. It is no longer a world power, but hanging because of its past.
RAF today has less warplanes than it had in 1924 – according to Imam Michael Harris on CFRA.
Bad News from Canada ( soft sympathiser of Islam and a lot of Anti Americanism):
Calgary elected Canada’s first Muslim Mayor – although he looksand sounds like a fruitcake, I do not bewlieve that this is a good sign.
Google ” Calgary mayor muslim”
I should add that the miserable state of Britain and its RAF is due to a lot of things but ONE reason is because Gordon Brown sold most of Britian’s gold when gold was worth less than $US300/ounce. Google ” browns bottom”
Gold is above $US1300/ounce and is going to $2000 due to hype, gread and fear ( traditonal drivers of bubbles)
This deprived Britian of billions at todays prices. Who benefited from this? Who bought the gold?
Britain is our weak link in the war against Islam.
In the mid 1970s I went to Germany. We arrived during in the morning. I asked the guy who took me from the airport to the convention hall… As I was passing through the empty streets, I asked him how come the streets were not busy, like in our countries. He said: “People are at work.” After 7 p.m. he took me back to the hotel, and the streets were empty. I said to him: “What’s going on, the streets are empty again.” He said: people are back home from work, and they are exhausted. All they want is to eat their dinner, watch the news, and then go to bed, because early next morning they have to wake up for hard work. They commute more than an hour to work and back, and spend an hour at lunch. They work non-stop………..
from a Friday sermon on Qatar TV by Sheik Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi
Al-Tamimi acknowledges the Islamisation of Europe as the goal, but tells everyone what a splendid goal it is, the cure for everything that ails Europe. Just think: if the Europeans accept Islam, their countries, too, can look like Libya, or Algeria, or Saudi Arabia, or Iraq, or the Sudan, or Iran, or Pakistan. And there would be no more of this getting up in the morning and going to work and then coming home after work. Why, people could sit around, just as they do in Saudi Arabia, and Libya, and Algeria, and Iraq, and Sudan, figuring out ways to divvy up unmerited oil money, or to convince Infidels to give them more aid, or to expropriate the property of foreign, Infidel companies and nationals, or to stage coups and upend a ruler or regime so that another ruler, and his faction or tribe, could help themselves to the government-controlled loot. Yes, Islam for Europe. And no more nonsense about science or art or individual autonomy. No more going home and “turning on the television” and perhaps even having a drink. There would be Islam, and only Islam. What could be better?
Infidel Guy
See a detailed examination of the current state of Britain’s armed forces and capability
Germany is on its way to becoming a world power once again, France is on its way to a civil war because the Unions want to retire early and Britain is undecided which way it will go. Having said that the only two effective military forces in that region are the Legion and the Brits, with the Brits busy destroying their military, and doing it faster then Obama is destroying ours. Look for more and more violence in Europe as the worlds economy falls once again. And it is poised to fall again, the economic experts that predicted the bubbles of 06 and the last crash are saying another crash will occur between now and around July of 2012. Welcome to the world the left has created for us to live in.
Dr Ulfkotte maintains that the Left’s desire to create a ‘new human being’ out of different cultures of the world, is not a bad thing.
Such a view amounts to genocide of indigenous White European nations. Do we see more prosperous non-White nations buying into this ethos of self-destruction? Most certainly we do not! Therefore, why should indigenous White Europeans tolerate their ancestral homelands being snatched from under their feet and their racial and cultural identities being trashed by said non-Whites who are only too happy to take absolute advantage of the Marxist Liberal Political Correctness malaise which has been infecting indigenous White consciousness as a result of imposed mass force-fed Marxist Liberal indoctrination via the education system and media, for five decades or more?
We only have to look at the societies of South America to see where racial and cultural denial leads. In South America, the populations are mongrel as a result of centures of miscegenation. There aren’t really distinct cultures, only a mish-mash of many purporting to be that which is representative of each nation.
One would think after so much miscegenation, racial disharmony would have long since become a thing of the past. Not so, however. They’ve been busy discriminating against the lighter-skinned for a decade or more just to placate the darker-skinned. The South American societal models totally shoot down in flames, the Left’s melting pot theory of a perfect society.
Ultimately, it’s only racially and culturally homogeneous societies that are able to endure and progress intellectually and materially, not societies composed of perpetually demanding self-ascribed victimized multi-ethnic identites looking to overturn the laws and culture of the host nation by setting up exclusve ethnic zones and self-rule within each.
The latter is the road to regression, stagnation and thus civilisational collapse – NOT stability and progress.
Ann you say that racially and culterally homogeneous societies are able to endure and progress. This has not been the case for either Somalia which is full of Somalians or Iran which is full of Iranians. No what is need is a group of not inbred non muslim people who are intelligent and hard working. Put some Japanese and Koreans together in Japan (as is the case) and the society will prosper with a bit of bitching. Put Swedes into Finland (as is the case) and you get some of the said bitching but things still prosper. So the key seems to be not the multi-ethnic thing but the intelligence and hard work and good social conduct based on either Buddhism or Christianity as shown in in the two example above. Take a whole load of Finns out of Finland and put them in Japan and things still work out. Take a whole load of Japanese and put them in Helsinki to keep the mighty Japanese corporations going and things still work out (as is the case). Put a whole load of Somalis or Iranians in either place and things start to unravel. Jihad, protests, special treatment, halal meat, muezzins waking you up etc. Give me a fat budhha or a cross any day and I will be fine with the whole idea of multi ethic culture getting together. Now that really does make life more spicy and interesting don’t you think?
However, you may disagree and say that life is fine with ones own ethic group and that is also a valid point of view. However, will you admit that a spicy and interesting society made up of people who do get on and do attempt to work hard is not not so bad either? I know I am a foreigner and so I am a bit biased in that direction, but I would like you to address this point.
arabconqueredpersian
“Ann you say that racially and culterally homogeneous societies are able to endure and progress. This has not been the case for either Somalia which is full of Somalians or Iran which is full of Iranians.”
Somalia is not really homogeneous in the racial sense. It’s a mongrel nation and yes, Islam is the pathogen that holds it back. However, in the case of Iran, it is not the indigenous people who are the problem, it’s again, Islam. Contemporary Iran was indeed an advanced nation during the rule of the Shah and continued pretty-well to be until the reimposition of fundamentalist Islam in the late 1970s since whence it’s been slowly regresssing. Iran has produced many scholars too, don’t forget.
“No what is need is a group of not inbred non muslim people who are intelligent and hard working. Put some Japanese and Koreans together in Japan (as is the case) and the society will prosper with a bit of bitching.”
Japanese and Koreans are very similar racially and culturally anyway. All East and Northeast Asian sub-groups are closely related. The same applies to Swedes and Finns who are also racially similar and they’re of European ancestry. What is important is that individual racial preservation is maintained and for that to be realised, it means that each race must retain exclusively its ancestral territory.
“So the key seems to be not the multi-ethnic thing but the intelligence and hard work and good social conduct based on either Buddhism or Christianity as shown in in the two example above. “
Well, in the case of Buddhism, if this were so, East Asian territories should have for centuries, been and remained on par with or at least close behind the Christian European civilisation known as the West. This has not been the case. Asiatic territtories have only been able to get ahead due to European technical/scientific advancement AND financial/material largesse which has been exported with few if any restrictions and conditions placed upon such recipient Asiatic nations. In other words, the White West has been busy throwing its self-knowledge, achievements, discoveries and accumulated wealth away to all and sundry in order not to be seen as racist and evil – all as a result of a concerted worldwide attempt to exterminate the White races of Europe. For the moment. we won’t go into detail about who’s responisble for this ongoing genocide. The time will come soon enough when those responsible shall be called to account.
“Take a whole load of Finns out of Finland and put them in Japan and things still work out. Take a whole load of Japanese and put them in Helsinki to keep the mighty Japanese corporations going and things still work out (as is the case). “
You are overlooking ethnic loyality here. All non-White races possess ethnic affinity and loyality to their own kind. In other words, the Japanese in Helsinki are not going to be looking out for the interests of Finns. It’s their own racial and cultural interests they’ll be protecting – quite naturally so, of course. Moreover, if the political and social climate of Helsinki was to alter ominously, you can rest assured the Japanese, like all non-White commercial interests, would pull the plug on their operations and relocate elsewhere.
“Give me a fat budhha or a cross any day and I will be fine with the whole idea of multi ethic culture getting together. Now that really does make life more spicy and interesting don’t you think?”
I agree, but only in their respective homelands of origin as is how the laws of nature would dictate.
Myriad races and their cultures amassed on the territory of another distinct ethnicity does not represent diversity, it represents confusion and chaos. One could liken such a state of affairs to a zoo. There has to be separation between things in order to fulfil the description of diversity’otherwise, you end up with obliteration.
arabconqueredpersian
“However, you may disagree and say that life is fine with ones own ethic group and that is also a valid point of view.”
It’s not the right of a foreigner to sit in judgement of the necessary decisions and actions decided upon to permanently secure the safety and survival of an indigenous ethnicity whose territorial space he has invaded, regardless of the foreigner’s opinions on the matter.
“However, will you admit that a spicy and interesting society made up of people who do get on and do attempt to work hard is not not so bad either? I know I am a foreigner and so I am a bit biased in that direction, but I would like you to address this point.”
I take it, you are Iranian!
Now, let me reverse the scenario to the deteriment of Iran which would equally apply to any non-White nation.
Iranians find themselves and their territories overrun with members of every other race and culture on earth, the collective demographic quantity and spread of which begins to threaten the very existence of the indigenous Iranian ethnicity and its culture and traditions.
In mere decades, the Iranian powers-that-be begin capitulating to the multi-faceted demands of each alien ethnicity and in no time at all, Iranians find themselves subject to the whims and dicktat of these alien outgroups who have successfully affirmative actioned themselves into positions of influence and power across all sections of the Iranian social spectrum.
Iranian education establishments begin filling up with the offspring of these alien masses, negatively impacting on the ability of indigenous Iranians to find places for their own offspring in what are their educational establishments and in their own ancestral homeland. As a result, the educational fallout manifests as a perpetual avalanche of foreign students looking for post-qualification employment across every aspect of the nation’s infrastructure. Not only that, but all of them demand their alien cultures and beliefs be recognised in the name of so-called equality and diversity even though Iran is not their nation nor do the Iranian peoples belong to and/or share any of their alien ethnicities, cultures and traditions including their excessive procreational habits.
Left unchecked, Iranians would know full well they would lose their homeland. They would know also that as an ethnic peoples, they run a very real and present risk of future enslavement (and all that this condition entails), and even banishment from their own ancestral homeland itself.
Now, I will ask you the following question!
After the above facts became manifest, would you still be thinking it’s such a fantastic idea to allow the multi-ethnic invasion and colonisation of YOUR homeland in the name of some notional ‘spicy and interesting society’?
PS Indigenous peoples don’t need the presence of assorted alien colonisers to create variety within their own nations.
Ann I don’t agree with everything you are saying, but you are more right then wrong, the melting pot, always remember we are suppose to be a melting pot and not multicultural, of the US worked until it was decided we had to allow unlimited immigration. Back when we limited the number of immigrants every year and let them melt into our base culture, bringing some new things to it the US was strong and growing. After the left started pushing the idea that forcing the immigrants to assimilate into our culture was a form of racism problems started to develop, not as many as Europe has because of the un-assimilated immigrants because a large percentage of the immigrants wanted to assimilate. The problem is more a matter of assimilation and not ethnic mix, however the fact that people feel more comfortable around members of their own race is a factor. Concentrate on the cultural side of things and the problems on the other side will ease.
After the US civil war the blacks in the North started assimilating into the base culture and while they lived in their own communities worked side by side with the whites. In many ways they became white in all but color, then during WWII (I know I skipped a lot of history and not all on my side) the blacks from the south moved north to work in the war industries, the blacks down south brought a fairly un-assimilated culture with them and race relations fell apart. Concentrate on the cultural side.
With reference to ‘Posted October 21, 2010 at 12:49 pm’ in respect of the following paragraph,
” Now, let me reverse the scenario to the deteriment of Iran which would equally apply to any non-White nation.”
The word should have read detriment – not deteriment.
My apologies!
Richard
Posted October 21, 2010 at 1:10 pm | Permalink
“Ann I don’t agree with everything you are saying, but you are more right then wrong, the melting pot, always remember we are suppose to be a melting pot and not multicultural, of the US worked until it was decided we had to allow unlimited immigration. “
I am speaking mainly of the European continent (the ancestral homeland of Whites), not specifically territories outside of it although North America was founded by White Europeans and the original intent of the Founding Fathers was that any melting pot concept was to be composed of White people from Europe, not people from the non-White Third World.
You cannot have a global melting pot society within one territory which is what you appear to be advocating. It’s totally unnatural. Place widely distinct peoples and their cultures in one living space and eventually strife and chaos will result. Bear in mind, it’s human nature to dominate – one over another. You are confortable with the founding race of North America being eventually wiped out? Well!!!
Furthermore, even in a strictly regulated environment, non-White immigrants will eventually out-procreate the founding White race and assume control of a territory not of their creation and establishing. Are you happy with the prospects of White people being dispossessed and inevitably disenfranchised of their culture(s) and self-determination which will lead to slavery and banishment? Well!
Culture on its own won’t stand. A race of people have to first create and maintain that culture. In other words, a culture does not spring from itself.
In a previous post, I suggested readers take a look at existing miscegenated societies such as those of South America. Is that the direction in which you want to see White homelands head including what is the orchestrated extinction of the White races in the process? Well!
In respect of your references to Blacks in America, what you are intimating is that somehow all would be fine and dandy providing Blacks were to adhere to the White culture which means effectively abandoning their own. Why should they do that? In fact, why should any non-White ethnicity do so where they are domicile on territories not their own.
Demanding that non-native incomers begin recognising the host culture as primary with their own respective cultures being permanently subservient to the host, ain’t going to fly even if one enacts laws to enforce this requirement. Why? Because, it’s unnatural to expect non-natives to suppress or abandon their ancestral traits and cultures in order to be accepted on the territory of another or others. It can’t be done. Only a dreamer (or what some would describe as mentally deluded ), would attempt to keep on persuing what is an impossibility in that area.
The fact that some Blacks may have apparently assimilated into what was fundamently White culture in the early days, doesn’t mean they willingly did so. Back then, Whites were firmly in control and non-Whites representing less than 10% of the nation, had no choice but to do so if they wished to survive and flourish to any degree at all. However, the majority didn’t assimilate, but tended to keep a low profile until their numbers expanded to more prolific demographic level and Marxism entered the equation. You know that the Civil Rights movement sprang from Marxism and Liberalism, what has since evolved into Marxist Liberalism.
Sufficient assimilation is only possible between ethnicities who share the same racial or closely-related roots, but even then each tends to still express pride and loyalty in its respective native culture and traditions. That’s fine as long as they still firmly and predominately retain and occupy their own birthright and/or ancestral living spaces no matter where.
You are wrong on some of the points, first the third world won’t procreate faster then the whites if, and I repeat if abortion is once more considered evil, second if the base culture stops funding the birth of more children then the third worlders can support on their own they will not out breed the whites. And one of my points was that you have to limit immigration to the level that can be assimilated, this in and of itself will prevent the ethnic percentages from varying very much. Since the 60s I have been hearing that the Whites in the US will be a minority in 20 years, it hasn’t happened yet, the percentages of all except the Hispanics have remained the same, and the raise in the Hispanic population is due to massive ILLEGAL immigration, not breeding. As I explained (granted not fully because of time limitations which are once again starting to press me) after the Civil War the Blacks in the north accepted the white culture and became like them, including having black entrepreneurs that were starting companies and large numbers of black professionals that were working mainly in the black communities. Then starting after WWI blacks started moving from the deep south and immigrating from Africa and the Caribbean the new comers had no interest in assimilating into the base culture and started pushing for a culture of their own, this got worse during and after WWII with the massive migration of workers north to the war industries. Then the left decided that expecting people to assimilate into the base culture was wrong and started their multicultural crap. The result was the destruction of the black middle class, a middle class that is just starting to regrow, and with the refusal of assimilate the race relations grew worse. Yes most groups want to live among others of their kind, but the Orientals that immigrate are busy assimilating and trying to fit in to the point that most people don’t realize how many there are in the US. Culture can handle the problem, in Britain there are blacks from the Caribbean and Hindus that are working hard to become English in every way they can. So don’t start throwing allies out before you have to.
Richard in his last post makes the point that some people are trying hard to assimilate. He mentions people like the Hindus. Also Sikhs and Chinese have tried hard to assimilate. Thai people also. The point is that immigration should be limited to hard working people who do assimilate. And then it should be capped. We need to always broaden our horizons. This espicially applies to the more advanced societies of the West who got to the heights of civilisation by being open to new ideas. Admittedly these were ideas they generated themselves back in the day. They should now realise that science is all over the globe. So now ideas can can be generated in the Eastern non islamic countries too. With the rise of science, scientists and researchers need acess to each others ideas and must meet and research together. Indeed at the moment Cambridge Uni in the UK is upset that a brilliant researcher from India was denied a visa. Now Cambridge Uni are concerned about science. Science has now changed due to the broadening of its base around the globe.
Advanced societies are valuable fountains of new ideas and should be protected but both ways: in terms of keeping an open mind and in terms of ethnicity. At the moment I feel that the West has too many immigrants and all further immigration should be banned immediately except for researchers and technology people.
On the historical point that Ann raises about the West being the teacher. True. But good students should also be applauded. The Eastern countries are good students and now are in the position in some cases to do some teaching as well. Now that the knowledge of the scientific revlotion is out it can help the whole world but only for those who can learn it.
On the issue of Iran. Iran only gave the veneer of sophistication due to oil wealth. A bit like Dubai and Kuwait today. Take away the oil wealth and you get the same old mind set of Islam. For a short while they managed to remove it (with the help of the Shah) and then with the oil wealth gave a false impression. They are back to what they do best now and that is Shia Islam. They still have the oil wealth. Boasting about some scholar or poem written way back is also something they are good at and manage to convince people not to judge them to harsly for being the women stoning islamics they are now. Somalis are learning this trick also and will tell you about the rich tradition of poetry in their country. It is just a veneer and a show to hide their embarassment at having descended so low now. Neither Iran or Somalia are civilised. I would certainly be happy for these two uncivilised countries to overun each other. They can then discuss the finer points of stoning innocent women after reading poetry. They are not of any concern to me. However, the hard working countries of the world are of concern and they are the future of the globe and they are worth protecting.
Ann surely you must know some people from other countries. That is not the macro level at which we are speaking but it is the level we interact. So surely you can see some merit in them as people looking beyond the skin coulour to them as idividuals.
I am sure that it is possible even in the West to get away from the coloured hordes. In the states Nascar racing is taking up this role albeit in an informal way due to political correcness. Nascar racing is a hundred percent white. Country singing also is good at this. Also whitetopia communites are being built where all the residents are white. They are all over the states. So if you do feel so strongly there is a possiblity for you to be living a happy and constructive life in one of these communities. They are everywhere in the States. Even here in the UK some areas have very few immigrants and one can easily get away from the coloured hordes in places like Gloucestershire for example. My point is for you not to despair but to offer you some information I have on how to live happily amongst your own people. Research places where the coloured hordes are few or non existent and go and live there. Thanks for such a spirited debated between your self and Richard. I thought I must chip in myself at this juncture since your intial response to my post.
“I agree, but only in their respective homelands of origin as is how the laws of nature would dictate. ” This was your viewpoint about my commment about fat Buddhas and Christian Crosses and the respective cultures they represent living together.
Is there law of nature operating here? Can you cite a scientific study on this matter? In my little area we have catholic church, a sikh temple, a mormon chapel, and assorted protestant churches. There has never been any trouble with any of them. Everyone gets along and things work out.
No doubt soon the Poles who have moved into the areas will set up there own church and that will be fine too. The point is if people are hard working and intelligent then there is not a problem with people living together. Each maintains their own culture and maintains their love for the adopted country. I have no love for muslim culture even though I was a muslim because I saw it to be the woman hating piece of rubbish it is. However, I do love any culture that shows intelligence and hardwork. Now if this is the case sociologically in my present area is this not evidence of the validity of the argument that the white indigenous culture in my area is safe and well and not in the least threatened. However, put some iranians in here enmass and they will be having a festival where they hit each other with iron chains and sharp implements to draw blood to show there love for Shia Islam. The festival is called muharram and is indeed bloody. See it on Google images. Put Somalis here enmass and the jihad will be on. My take on your posts is that you seem to lump everyone in the same catogory as a threat to white indigenous culuture when this clearly not the case from a soci0-cultural perspective.
No one is stopping white people from having babies and the Mormon misssionaries who operate in this area have told me of their large families. Indeed in the local chapel a mormon white women just gave birth to a baby. Ony her seventh baby. I met her and after the usual chit chat enquired about other large families. She mentioned quite a few families with lots of children.
Iran certainly needs some spice and interesting thing from Somalis because they are both uncivilised islamics. So it certainly would not bother me if they over ran Iran. Iran needs them! However, the West needs neither. The west has enough immigrants now and any more should be for strictly scientic or technological projects. People like this. Take this story for example about an Indian proffessor:
ScienceDaily (Dec. 17, 2006) — An international team of over 2,000 scientists, led by Professor Tejinder Virdee from Imperial College London’s Department of Physics is stepping up preparations for the world’s largest ever physics experiment, starting next year at CERN near Geneva, Switzerland.
The enormous CMS particle detector is being assembled piece by piece under the supervision of Imperial’s Professor Tejinder Virdee.
“Is there law of nature operating here? Can you cite a scientific study on this matter? In my little area we have catholic church, a sikh temple, a mormon chapel, and assorted protestant churches. “
The term is also referred to as Natural Law as well. Regarding the racial aspect of Natural Law, here are some interesting links.
The 1.4.2 section of the thesis in link 3 regarding racial awareness (ethnocentrism), is obviously pertinent to the question of natural empathy with one’s own race including sexual.
“There has never been any trouble with any of them. Everyone gets along and things work out.
No doubt soon the Poles who have moved into the areas will set up there own church and that will be fine too. The point is if people are hard working and intelligent then there is not a problem with people living together. “
There are always periods of varying lengths where peoples of distinct races and cultures seemingly ‘get along’ with each other, mainly were no particular one of them dominates politically. However, when it comes to free -flow interracial mixing through marriage, for example, you will find that such practices are most definitely taboo amongst non-White groups of Third World origin where same-race/culture (ethnocentric) allegiances are far more deeply rooted than generally found in White people. Also, where a society becomes subjected to serious fiscal and social upheaval, ethnicies will automatically muster in support of their own ethnic communities rather than pulling together with every other race and culture. This is because to do so is perfectly natural. Furthermore, distinct comunities will always seek to set up enclaves for themselves once sufficient numbers of them have arisen in a given living space.
“Each maintains their own culture and maintains their love for the adopted country. I have no love for muslim culture even though I was a muslim because I saw it to be the woman hating piece of rubbish it is. However, I do love any culture that shows intelligence and hardwork. Now if this is the case sociologically in my present area is this not evidence of the validity of the argument that the white indigenous culture in my area is safe and well and not in the least threatened. However, put some iranians in here enmass and they will be having a festival where they hit each other with iron chains and sharp implements to draw blood to show there love for Shia Islam. The festival is called muharram and is indeed bloody. See it on Google images. Put Somalis here enmass and the jihad will be on. My take on your posts is that you seem to lump everyone in the same catogory as a threat to white indigenous culuture when this clearly not the case from a soci0-cultural perspective.”
Your above outpourings are based more on sentimentality and emotion than realism from a academic/scientific type perspective, that is.
Poles are White Europeans and practice European evolved Christianity while sharing similarities in both race and culture with other White European ethnicities. Non-White ethnicities do not.
“No one is stopping white people from having babies and the Mormon misssionaries who operate in this area have told me of their large families.”
Good for the Mormons, I say!
Yes, unfortunately, White people have tended to put childbearing /childrearing at the bottom of their list of priorities. There are at least three reasons for this as follows
1. is the need for both partners to work just to maintain a moderate standard of living.
2. Naked careerism where females put off childbearing until they’ve established a home and stable lifestyle with their partners, a practice which ironically later often proves to be problematic for many in relation to an ability to then conceive at all.
3. The Cult of Feminism from the early 1960s to the present, is also playing a negative psychological role, ie, engendering an anti-child mindset amongst women and is busying fostering the same mindset in non-White ancestral homelands too.
Arabconqueredpersian I thank you for the complement. Yes immigration should be limited in number and to those who are willing to assimilate, even then there will be racial tension, there is always racial tension on all sides until the sides merge. Back in the 1850s there were signs all over the States NINA, no Irish need apply, rather then cry about this the Irish worked hard to assimilate and for a long time made up the majority of police and firefighters in the big cities.
As to why the Buddhist, Christians, Hindu’s and other religions can share a region and not fight is that non of those religions think they have to forcibly convert everyone in the world. All religions have the right to work to convert people in all nations. I just wish the world would be more peaceful about it.
Ann you have a point, and a good one, history does say that two races living in contact are going to have conflict, but so far as I remember the conflicts have been because both sides kept their own culture. Yes genetics plays a larger role in human behavior them most people are willing to accept, but culture plays just as important role in most cases. There are times when the genetics play the most important role and times when the culture play the most important role. One point on the genetics issue, the White Northern European male tends to be the slowest to anger of all of the races, but once angered they are the most efficient at the violence. They are the ones that put murder on an assembly line bases, this is why I really don’t think there will be a genocide of the White Europeans. Having said that I don’t see anyway out of massive violence and war in Europe and probably the US during the coming decade, if I am reading the mood of the people on both continents right by this time in 2020 all sides in the war and all groups in the war will have routinely done things that are currently unthinkable. We are in a clash of civilizations, and at a turning point of history. Read the actual history of Europe before you decide that the Europeans and Europe are dead. Various of the leaders in all of the countries are selling out their nations but the common people, the little people are getting mad, they are the people who created the successful conservative revolution known as the
American Revolution, and the liberal revolution known as the French Revolution, the revolution that Karl Marx took his inspiration from. So when the nation you are living in resorts to violence work hard to ensure it is a conservative revolution that is working to restore rights not a liberal revolution working to find new ones. Liberal revolutions always end in dictatorship and terror.
Richard
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“You are wrong on some of the points, first the third world won’t procreate faster then the whites if, and I repeat if abortion is once more considered evil ….,”
Surely, you mean to say ‘if abortion is once more not considered evil since, I assume, you mean they, the third world, would be more likely to avail themselves of this procedure in such circumstances. Incidently, in my opinion, abortion is indeed evil. Let me explain why I believe so!
When abortion was originally drafted and first legalised, it was designed to relieve women of having to continue with a pregnancy who were the victims of rape, women suffering mental or physical ill-health and for foetal abnormalities . Furthermore, it was only sanctioned within the first four or five months, if I recall. Even four months of gestation is too advanced , in my view.
Today the goal posts have indeed been shifted to an outrageous degree. Full-term fetus abortion, called partial-birth, has now been pronounced under practically any frivolous pretext as acceptable by the political elite and medical professions of the Western world.
Such an enactment of law is grossly grotesque and, in truth, is actually murder since it is the premeditated killing of a fully-formed human being.
“second if the base culture stops funding the birth of more children then the third worlders can support on their own they will not out breed the whites. “
What a total misrepresentation of the truth and very telling as regards your racial opinion of White people.
Firstly, the White races collectively are actually rapidly diminishing at an unprecedented rate and today represent only between 7% and 8% of the world’s population. In other words, the non-White races comprise collectively 92% or more of the world’s population.
Secondly, whilst some non-White ethnicities do limit their numbers of offspring significantly, the vast majority of non-White ethnicities do not. Most certainly this fact can be starkly observed in every White homeland they’ve been enabled to invade and colonise, not to mention the same proclivities visible in their own ancestral homelands.
What is also being deliberately overlooked by indigenous White advocates of non-White immigration, is that all of these races collectively will inevitably and in this century, out-breed indigenous White inhabitants in every White homelands even if all immigration were to be halted in its entirety today.
Furthermore, close proximity to White inhabitants allows non-Whites access to White partners coupled with the fact that Whites who reject non-Whites are now starting to be deemed racist and already, I’ve come across one news item not that long ago, of a Black man in America publically accusing a White female of being a racist simply because she didn’t happen to be attracted to him. Consequently, this translates as stealth attempts at forced interracial sex as if the voluntary version of miscegenation on the part of empty-headed Whites, isn’t destructive enough on its own.
Only Whites live under the threat of employment dismissal, employment blacklisting (pardon, the pub), public vilification and imprisonment for something called racism which is not a crime at all, but a handy whipping stick invented by Leon Trotsky to beat down the White goyim underfoot. (Incidently, I can say this because I’m Jewish).
“And one of my points was that you have to limit immigration to the level that can be assimilated, this in and of itself will prevent the ethnic percentages from varying very much. Since the 60s I have been hearing that the Whites in the US will be a minority in 20 years,
They are already a minority in certain states and their overall numbers have dropped from somewhere between 88% and 91% of the population back in the 60s to around around 72% today. The 60s forecasters did not anticipate an unfettered ongoing tidal-wave of immigration hence their 20 years estimate. Of course, the time span for the White races’ slump to minority status has long since been tremendously accelerated due to the open borders and illegal asylum invasion.
” hasn’t happened yet, the percentages of all except the Hispanics have remained the same, and the raise in the Hispanic population is due to massive ILLEGAL immigration, not breeding. “
So, are you suggesting that over the past 50 years or so, non-Whites already domicile in America and elsewhere in the White world, have only been having on average, two offspring instead of four or five. It seems to me, you are hoping people doubt their own eyes whilst going about their daily lives and thus end up deceiving themselves?
“As I explained (granted not fully because of time limitations which are once again starting to press me) after the Civil War the Blacks in the north accepted the white culture and became like them, including having black entrepreneurs that were starting companies and large numbers of black professionals that were working mainly in the black communities. “
True enough! However, what they were following was not White culture, but their own Black version of it replete with Black Christianity. The vast majority aside from the odd Uncle Tom, remained loyal to their own race at all costs whilst still harbouring deep resentment for Whites which they largely successfully concealed during this era in order to better their own lot and don’t forget, Whites were firmly in control back then.
“Then starting after WWI blacks started moving from the deep south and immigrating from Africa and the Caribbean the new comers had no interest in assimilating into the base culture and started pushing for a culture of their own, this got worse during and after WWII with the massive migration of workers north to the war industries. “
Again, good points. I would, nonetheless, put it to you that those original 1890s, 1920s, 1930s, and 1940s, descendants of slavery themselves had never fully assimilated into White culture either and had for centuries prior, been taking active steps to educate their offspring about their African roots and African culture, all of which is perfectly natural behaviour, of course.
“Then the left decided that expecting people to assimilate into the base culture was wrong and started their multicultural crap. The result was the destruction of the black middle class, a middle class that is just starting to regrow, and with the refusal of assimilate the race relations grew worse. “
I’m not sure what hymn sheet you are singing from here, but the Left’s intention was as it still is, to destroy both the White middle and working classes, not the Black. Blacks predominately have and still are being favoured by the Left since the setting up of the Frankfurt School in the US, when their plan reached fruition in the early to middle 1960s.
For whose benefit do you think Affirmative Action and Political Correctness was invented?
“Yes most groups want to live among others of their kind, but the Orientals that immigrate are busy assimilating and trying to fit in to the point that most people don’t realize how many there are in the US. Culture can handle the problem, in Britain there are blacks from the Caribbean and Hindus that are working hard to become English in every way they can. So don’t start throwing allies out before you have to.”
Well, in the UK, for example, Orientals as a distinct ethnicity are not assimilating by which one means mixing with and adopting the cultural mores and traits of the White host population, save a few exceptions here and there which is not the same as group assimilation at all.
Polls carried out fairly regularly tend to point to non-White ethnicities seeing themselves as Asian first, not British. They know they can’t be racially English, Scots, Welsh, etc because they are not indigenous and White anymore than White people could refer to themselves as Indian, Pakistani, Somalian or Congolese were they born in said territories.
Ann it is interesting that you say you are Jewish and yet so strongly identify yourself with a skin colour. I would have thought being of Jewish background that Jewishness would be the key component of your identity. As I understand it not all Jews are white and some have distinctly kinky hair perhaps due to the fact that there is a 10 percent african component to the gene pool of Jews. However, I am going to take it that your main indentity point is being white and we will proceed from that point.
“I agree, but only in their respective homelands of origin as is how the laws of nature would dictate. ”
I loooked at the links you gave me but could find nothing in them about geography. I could find nothing in them about respective homelands. The links talk about the development of the psychological development of other race awareness. So what? I am aware as are you of other races. I am even aware of others species such as cats. However, I do have a rational mind that allows me to operate on a more advanced level then the raw programming that nature has given me. I can see the value in another human being and am not obssessed like animals are with territorality. Territoriality is a function of the primitive (reptilian) brain that is not as advanced as the rational part of brain (the cerebral cortex) which allows me to override the primitive brain with all its built in programmes such as sex drive or territoriality. If we operate on the basis of the reptilian brain than clearly a black person and a white person can not live in the same country. However, we have a rational brain that thinks things through and lo and behold we can overcome our primitive nature and cooperate!
Now tell me what is your ideal world. Is it a world where only white people live in white countries with the coloured hordes removed forever? This world used to exist but is gone forever. Rather than ruing that fact why not study the history of those all white times and immerse yourself in that world vicariously while living in a white community with no tv. You never know when Chris Rock might pop up on the box. Seriously though we may as well all get used to the fact that the world in which we live in is the world as we find it and thus of necessity we must adapt our thinking towards it in the best way we can.
Whites control most of the world’s land. Russia is the world’s biggest country with the largest amounts of oil and gas in the world. The USA, Canada, Australia and Western and Eastern Europe is plenty of land. A few millions brown and blacks is not going to make too much difference when so much land is available.
Whites have a vast culture in a vast land. They will hang on to it because they have vast amounts of money as well. They control the biggest chunk of the world’s economy. The Asian countries are still playing catch up. The Western Economy is about twice as big as that of East Asia/India.
Whites not only have the biggest economic engine in the world they have the most innovative. With the greatest amount of land, the biggest economy, the most inn0vative economy on the planet why do you think that a billion white people are in such mortal danger of being wiped out? If anything the present scenario shows the trimphant power of whites over the whole world. A minority (though a large minority of one billion white) control the world and their white culture is not in any danger. If anything it keeps on producing new and innovative films, art etc More so than the rest of the world put together. There are now more white people in existence than every before. They are richer and more technological advanced than they have ever been. And even after losing their colonies they still possess the most land. The white people of earth can be characterised as a large minority which is the most powerful group in the entire world.
Ann I am white, and I am not a white that hates my own race, I don’t know how things are in Britain or Europe but in the US the main pusher of abortion is Planned Parenthood, this group was founded in the early part of the 20th Century for the reason of improving the human race by aborting out the weak and sickly. It was originally sold to some people as a way to abort the black babies and destroy the black race. Currently they are aborting more blacks then whites, even though the blacks are only about 11% of our population.
Now on the subject of the taxpayers not being forced to pay for the continued births of babies to the unmarried poor mothers that are usually but not always black. During the 1980s the number of babies that would increase the amount of welfare you got was 2, once this was put in place a slow but significant drop was noticed in the birth rate of the welfare families. Then in the 1990s the payment for more then 2 babies was restored, the birth rate returned to what it was before the original change was made. So yes if the government/culture/tax payers weren’t forced to pay for the large number of illegitimate kids the minority races in the US would drop to the rate of increase of the whites. So yes the birth rate is tied into economics, most people are decent enough not to bring kids they can’t support into the world. Once the government starts paying money for the kids, and increasing it with each kid the government is encouraging the increase of the welfare class.
As far as the Third World goes Africa is busy with the tribes/nations slaughtering each other and AIDS is spreading faster there then in any place besides Thailand. The last figures I saw said that something like 50 to 60% of the Africans of both sexes that are in the childbearing age are hot only HIV positive but quite often in full blown AIDS. The projections are that by 2050 the Blacks in Africa will have dropped in population to around 5% of what it currently is. The Moslem nations are also infected but are refusing to tell their AIDS rate, however given the ease of divorce and remarriage as well as the strain of pedophilia that runs through the Arabic culture it is safe to estimate that the rate is at least double the European and American rates. The rates, projections and estimations are coming from the UN so you decide how much you want to trust them.
Richard it is true that the birth rates of blacks have gone so low that one pastor in the states has even said that blacks may be wiped out. He is exaggerating for preaching effect. But you get the point.It is not some law that non-whites procreate faster than whites. There are issues behind each increase and decrease in populations of differerent people. Back in Iran they had the crazy idea of increasing theire population. They doubled it pretty quickly after the islamic revolution. More mouths to feed but same old oil wealth. The nation’s income dropped by a half. Now they are promoting birth control. Having a large population is touted as a good thing by some but in reality a stable wealthy population is good thing as it allows government planners to plan better. A run away population can destroy the wealth of thatcountry if that country does not generate extra funds to support those people. In Saudi Arabia which is increasing their population from a low base the per capita income has fallen lower than that of some of the eastern european countries. The same old oil wealth but more mouths to feed. The world bank for 2009 gives the iranians a per capita income on a purchaing power parity of 10,939. For Saudi Arabia it is (from the same source) 23,272. Both these are in dollars. Now take a country like Denmark with a stable population. They have increased their wealth per capita. It now stands at (from the same source) at 35,828. They have used the same amount of energy to produce more goods and have developed new income streams such as wind power electricity generation. So while people like Ann are bemoaning the lack of white people the actual stratagy of white people of maintaing a stable population and increasing income streams has made white people even more wealthy than previously. The third world countries of iran and saudi increase their population without generating new income streams and then nose drive into comparitive poverty. This is there future too. Oil wealth is like money in the bank once it is gone it is gone. More mouths to feed will make that happen quicker. There is no way back for Iran as it is too poor now (despite the bluster and boasting which par the course for them) and Saudi will never take steps to try some birth control. Meanwhile Denmark will have a bright future. A stable population, more income streams, and now the death of political correctness. Denmark is the pioneer of killing polical correctness and will reap a good return from getting tough on immigration and maintianing freedom of speech. One could say Denmark should never have allowed immigration in the first place. True but hindsight is always perfect. At least now they are taking steps thanks to the Danish People’s Party of sorthing out the problems caused by muslims immigrants. We live in an imperfect world and we make mistakes but Ann is getting way to paranoid. Things work out Ann. I do not hate the white race. Richard does not either. My personal opinion is that the white race has a prosperous future ahead.
I wasn’t talking about the birthrate of the blacks in America, but it is dropping, the normal reason for a drop in birthrate is economic, the parents or in the case of socialist and feudal societies don’t have money enough to support the extra children. This is why I am one of the once who advocate the end to paying extra money to the welfare queen moms who have more then 2 children.
And yes I know the Moslem nations are due to go into a population decline, I am not one of the people who think the population decline will end the jihad but it will help. History shows that when the worlds population reaches a point where it is hard to support them without reducing every ones standard of living the population starts dropping until it reaches a level that an be supported. The limits of growth people don’t need to push for big government to limit the worlds population, economics does it for them. And as far as the world running out of mineral resources most of them can be found on various moons and the asteroids. If of course the left is removed from power so we can do the research to go into space to stay and to develop the mineral resources out there.
Yes you are right the middleast is due to go to a massive fertility decline. Indeed demographers have noticed the trend already. On your last point of going to other planets that is certainly the future. It certainly is where the imagination of white people is. I am reading science fiction these days and I know some elements of the literature will most definately come true.
I want to do a little comparison between Russia which is the biggest country in the world full of white people with Bangladesh which is a small dark brown country. The russian popultaion acccording to the CIA fact book is slightly greater than 140 million. This about the same as the population of Bangladesh. Now according to a gentleman called M Ashgar a former native of Bangladesh we learn these facts:
“The total size of Bangladesh is 144,000 sq. km. Out of this, 10,090 sq. km. are occupied by water, thus leaving 133,910 sq. km. of land for its people’s use. Take out the land that is occupied by its forest, hills and roads etc., and what do we find?
Bangladesh has only approximately 115,000 sq. km. of land for its 140 million people to live on and to cultivate food for their sustenance and also to set up mills and factories to produce goods for their own consumption and export.”
The white people of Russia with the same population numbers live in the world’s biggest country with the largest oil and gas reserves in the world.
So how can Ann complain about the sorry state of white people. It simply does not add up when one does direct comparison between the coloured country of Bangladesh and the white country of Russia. White countries may have problems (all countries do) but a comparison of the problems reveals that coloured countries in no way have the upper hand and will continue to suffer via overpopulation and not enough land and industry to meet their needs.
This is not to say these people should be invited to live in the west. Indeed the borough of Tower Hamelets is full of Bangladeshies. That borough is the poorest in the UK. The Bangladeshies used to be the number one unemployed group in the country of the UK now that dubious honour belongs to their fellow islamics from Somalia. Clearly all such immigration should be halted.
When you make this comparison you need to make a distinction about the size of the livable land, granted when you do this Russia is still a larger nation. The problem is that the climate in Russia is extremely harsh (they are predicting the hardest winter in 1000 years this year) which increases the amount of land that is needed to feed on person. Under the Czars Russia exported food, under communism it had to import food, thanks to the massive number and size of the wild fires they had they are once again importing food. This is why the price of wheat products using wheat is increasing, as well as potatoes and hops. And if their winter wheat crop was not planted in time because of the fires the prices will increase again next year. Remember in warm climates you need less food to survive then you do in cold climates.
As to the Science Fiction, I started reading it in 1957 and I am still amazed at the vast number of things that the SF writers of the 40’s, 50’s and 60’s got right. Including Islam going on the march against the West in the early 21st Century. Of course back then almost all of the best SF authors were scientists, engineers and history buffs.
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I hope this new attitude of stadning up to these 6th century trogs and telling them to return to the muslim hell hole of their choice, or we will beat you and your 6 wives, spreads here.
I feel hopeful for theWest after watching this video and have found beaucoup respect for Hans und Franz ( at least some of them) who act like 300 lb gorillas in the face of islam.
Germany is mighty country. To give you an example of this let us add the gdp of Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Iran, and Egypt. This give us 2762 billion dollars on a purchasing power parity basis according to figures from the CIA fact book. Now what is the GDP of Germany? According to the CIA fact book it is 2 trillion 812 billion. So just by it self Germany is more than a match economically for the big economies of Allah and his desert muslims who mainly live off oil and tourism (turkey). Saudi has oil and tourism of the “religious” sort (haaj) My point in making this comparison is that Germany carries weight and the direction it moves can effect the whole continent of Europe. A German man like this is a movement away from the madness of polical correctness and into a new reality. One which states we are in an ideological war with the imperialistic ideology of Islam.
Strange twist:
Hamburg set to be first German state to officially recognize Islam
The worse things get the more acts like this we will see, if my reading of history is right it will end with the Europeans driving the Moslems out of
Europe.
I see Germany in the 21th century becoming a great force of good in the world, almost like it’s reversing its traditional role.
The two countries to watch are France and Germany.
France first, as it does not carry Nazi guilt. As both countries are very close, France could well set off the Tsunami, while Germany, stating that it is “reluctantly” supporting its major EU partner in its fight for freedom and against Islamofascism, will follow.
As these two countries are, for all practical purposes the EU, the EU will go along with it. That leaves Britain, but this time on the wrong side of the war against fascism.
I hope though, that people will recall the many words of Churchill on Islam, and start to take action to remove Islam from Europe.
arabconqueredpersian
I visit Germany and Switzerland quite often. What has struck me is the sheer power of the German economy. Unlike the rest of the West which has de-industrialised and exported industrial power to China while adopting the soft cyber economy, Germany has built on its industrial heritage and German aptitude for precision engineering. This further leverages into high end software products, which are unavailable elsewhere in the world. Thus de-industrialising is actually cause is harm in the very industry we put all our eggs in.
The result is that the power of the German economy cannot be just measured in EUs, but in what it can do with it. For precision engineering in high pressure or vacuum conditions, and in adverse temperature conditions of any kind, even Japan, leave alone China, are no match for Germany. This is because Germany has continued its natural advantage of being the leader in Chemistry (materials science and technology), as well as its long heritage as an industrial/technological/scientific power.
We in Britain OTH, have trashed our heritage in almost every sphere, whether scientific, technological, social and spiritual.
DP111 is correct re;Britain. It is no longer a world power, but hanging because of its past.
RAF today has less warplanes than it had in 1924 – according to Imam Michael Harris on CFRA.
Bad News from Canada ( soft sympathiser of Islam and a lot of Anti Americanism):
Calgary elected Canada’s first Muslim Mayor – although he looksand sounds like a fruitcake, I do not bewlieve that this is a good sign.
Google ” Calgary mayor muslim”
I should add that the miserable state of Britain and its RAF is due to a lot of things but ONE reason is because Gordon Brown sold most of Britian’s gold when gold was worth less than $US300/ounce. Google ” browns bottom”
Gold is above $US1300/ounce and is going to $2000 due to hype, gread and fear ( traditonal drivers of bubbles)
This deprived Britian of billions at todays prices. Who benefited from this? Who bought the gold?
Britain is our weak link in the war against Islam.
In the mid 1970s I went to Germany. We arrived during in the morning. I asked the guy who took me from the airport to the convention hall… As I was passing through the empty streets, I asked him how come the streets were not busy, like in our countries. He said: “People are at work.” After 7 p.m. he took me back to the hotel, and the streets were empty. I said to him: “What’s going on, the streets are empty again.” He said: people are back home from work, and they are exhausted. All they want is to eat their dinner, watch the news, and then go to bed, because early next morning they have to wake up for hard work. They commute more than an hour to work and back, and spend an hour at lunch. They work non-stop………..
from a Friday sermon on Qatar TV by Sheik Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi
Arabconqueredpersian, your latest post reminded me of quite an interesting essay by Hugh Fitzgerald, based on a debate on al-Jazeera between Swiss counter-jihadist hero Oskar Freysinger and madhoundian Azzam al-Tamimi; and how the latter, in the middle of his stream of repetitive and contradictory babble, had the temerity to state that “islam ‘liberates’ Europeans from their ‘stupidity.'” On that, Hugh made the following excellent point:
Al-Tamimi acknowledges the Islamisation of Europe as the goal, but tells everyone what a splendid goal it is, the cure for everything that ails Europe. Just think: if the Europeans accept Islam, their countries, too, can look like Libya, or Algeria, or Saudi Arabia, or Iraq, or the Sudan, or Iran, or Pakistan. And there would be no more of this getting up in the morning and going to work and then coming home after work. Why, people could sit around, just as they do in Saudi Arabia, and Libya, and Algeria, and Iraq, and Sudan, figuring out ways to divvy up unmerited oil money, or to convince Infidels to give them more aid, or to expropriate the property of foreign, Infidel companies and nationals, or to stage coups and upend a ruler or regime so that another ruler, and his faction or tribe, could help themselves to the government-controlled loot. Yes, Islam for Europe. And no more nonsense about science or art or individual autonomy. No more going home and “turning on the television” and perhaps even having a drink. There would be Islam, and only Islam. What could be better?
Infidel Guy
See a detailed examination of the current state of Britain’s armed forces and capability
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2010/10/what-did-i-tell-you.html
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2010/10/ultimate-solution.html
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2010/10/it-is.html
and in general
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/
Germany is on its way to becoming a world power once again, France is on its way to a civil war because the Unions want to retire early and Britain is undecided which way it will go. Having said that the only two effective military forces in that region are the Legion and the Brits, with the Brits busy destroying their military, and doing it faster then Obama is destroying ours. Look for more and more violence in Europe as the worlds economy falls once again. And it is poised to fall again, the economic experts that predicted the bubbles of 06 and the last crash are saying another crash will occur between now and around July of 2012. Welcome to the world the left has created for us to live in.
Dr Ulfkotte maintains that the Left’s desire to create a ‘new human being’ out of different cultures of the world, is not a bad thing.
Such a view amounts to genocide of indigenous White European nations. Do we see more prosperous non-White nations buying into this ethos of self-destruction? Most certainly we do not! Therefore, why should indigenous White Europeans tolerate their ancestral homelands being snatched from under their feet and their racial and cultural identities being trashed by said non-Whites who are only too happy to take absolute advantage of the Marxist Liberal Political Correctness malaise which has been infecting indigenous White consciousness as a result of imposed mass force-fed Marxist Liberal indoctrination via the education system and media, for five decades or more?
We only have to look at the societies of South America to see where racial and cultural denial leads. In South America, the populations are mongrel as a result of centures of miscegenation. There aren’t really distinct cultures, only a mish-mash of many purporting to be that which is representative of each nation.
One would think after so much miscegenation, racial disharmony would have long since become a thing of the past. Not so, however. They’ve been busy discriminating against the lighter-skinned for a decade or more just to placate the darker-skinned. The South American societal models totally shoot down in flames, the Left’s melting pot theory of a perfect society.
Ultimately, it’s only racially and culturally homogeneous societies that are able to endure and progress intellectually and materially, not societies composed of perpetually demanding self-ascribed victimized multi-ethnic identites looking to overturn the laws and culture of the host nation by setting up exclusve ethnic zones and self-rule within each.
The latter is the road to regression, stagnation and thus civilisational collapse – NOT stability and progress.
Ann you say that racially and culterally homogeneous societies are able to endure and progress. This has not been the case for either Somalia which is full of Somalians or Iran which is full of Iranians. No what is need is a group of not inbred non muslim people who are intelligent and hard working. Put some Japanese and Koreans together in Japan (as is the case) and the society will prosper with a bit of bitching. Put Swedes into Finland (as is the case) and you get some of the said bitching but things still prosper. So the key seems to be not the multi-ethnic thing but the intelligence and hard work and good social conduct based on either Buddhism or Christianity as shown in in the two example above. Take a whole load of Finns out of Finland and put them in Japan and things still work out. Take a whole load of Japanese and put them in Helsinki to keep the mighty Japanese corporations going and things still work out (as is the case). Put a whole load of Somalis or Iranians in either place and things start to unravel. Jihad, protests, special treatment, halal meat, muezzins waking you up etc. Give me a fat budhha or a cross any day and I will be fine with the whole idea of multi ethic culture getting together. Now that really does make life more spicy and interesting don’t you think?
However, you may disagree and say that life is fine with ones own ethic group and that is also a valid point of view. However, will you admit that a spicy and interesting society made up of people who do get on and do attempt to work hard is not not so bad either? I know I am a foreigner and so I am a bit biased in that direction, but I would like you to address this point.
arabconqueredpersian
“Ann you say that racially and culterally homogeneous societies are able to endure and progress. This has not been the case for either Somalia which is full of Somalians or Iran which is full of Iranians.”
Somalia is not really homogeneous in the racial sense. It’s a mongrel nation and yes, Islam is the pathogen that holds it back. However, in the case of Iran, it is not the indigenous people who are the problem, it’s again, Islam. Contemporary Iran was indeed an advanced nation during the rule of the Shah and continued pretty-well to be until the reimposition of fundamentalist Islam in the late 1970s since whence it’s been slowly regresssing. Iran has produced many scholars too, don’t forget.
“No what is need is a group of not inbred non muslim people who are intelligent and hard working. Put some Japanese and Koreans together in Japan (as is the case) and the society will prosper with a bit of bitching.”
Japanese and Koreans are very similar racially and culturally anyway. All East and Northeast Asian sub-groups are closely related. The same applies to Swedes and Finns who are also racially similar and they’re of European ancestry. What is important is that individual racial preservation is maintained and for that to be realised, it means that each race must retain exclusively its ancestral territory.
“So the key seems to be not the multi-ethnic thing but the intelligence and hard work and good social conduct based on either Buddhism or Christianity as shown in in the two example above. “
Well, in the case of Buddhism, if this were so, East Asian territories should have for centuries, been and remained on par with or at least close behind the Christian European civilisation known as the West. This has not been the case. Asiatic territtories have only been able to get ahead due to European technical/scientific advancement AND financial/material largesse which has been exported with few if any restrictions and conditions placed upon such recipient Asiatic nations. In other words, the White West has been busy throwing its self-knowledge, achievements, discoveries and accumulated wealth away to all and sundry in order not to be seen as racist and evil – all as a result of a concerted worldwide attempt to exterminate the White races of Europe. For the moment. we won’t go into detail about who’s responisble for this ongoing genocide. The time will come soon enough when those responsible shall be called to account.
“Take a whole load of Finns out of Finland and put them in Japan and things still work out. Take a whole load of Japanese and put them in Helsinki to keep the mighty Japanese corporations going and things still work out (as is the case). “
You are overlooking ethnic loyality here. All non-White races possess ethnic affinity and loyality to their own kind. In other words, the Japanese in Helsinki are not going to be looking out for the interests of Finns. It’s their own racial and cultural interests they’ll be protecting – quite naturally so, of course. Moreover, if the political and social climate of Helsinki was to alter ominously, you can rest assured the Japanese, like all non-White commercial interests, would pull the plug on their operations and relocate elsewhere.
“Give me a fat budhha or a cross any day and I will be fine with the whole idea of multi ethic culture getting together. Now that really does make life more spicy and interesting don’t you think?”
I agree, but only in their respective homelands of origin as is how the laws of nature would dictate.
Myriad races and their cultures amassed on the territory of another distinct ethnicity does not represent diversity, it represents confusion and chaos. One could liken such a state of affairs to a zoo. There has to be separation between things in order to fulfil the description of diversity’otherwise, you end up with obliteration.
arabconqueredpersian
“However, you may disagree and say that life is fine with ones own ethic group and that is also a valid point of view.”
It’s not the right of a foreigner to sit in judgement of the necessary decisions and actions decided upon to permanently secure the safety and survival of an indigenous ethnicity whose territorial space he has invaded, regardless of the foreigner’s opinions on the matter.
“However, will you admit that a spicy and interesting society made up of people who do get on and do attempt to work hard is not not so bad either? I know I am a foreigner and so I am a bit biased in that direction, but I would like you to address this point.”
I take it, you are Iranian!
Now, let me reverse the scenario to the deteriment of Iran which would equally apply to any non-White nation.
Iranians find themselves and their territories overrun with members of every other race and culture on earth, the collective demographic quantity and spread of which begins to threaten the very existence of the indigenous Iranian ethnicity and its culture and traditions.
In mere decades, the Iranian powers-that-be begin capitulating to the multi-faceted demands of each alien ethnicity and in no time at all, Iranians find themselves subject to the whims and dicktat of these alien outgroups who have successfully affirmative actioned themselves into positions of influence and power across all sections of the Iranian social spectrum.
Iranian education establishments begin filling up with the offspring of these alien masses, negatively impacting on the ability of indigenous Iranians to find places for their own offspring in what are their educational establishments and in their own ancestral homeland. As a result, the educational fallout manifests as a perpetual avalanche of foreign students looking for post-qualification employment across every aspect of the nation’s infrastructure. Not only that, but all of them demand their alien cultures and beliefs be recognised in the name of so-called equality and diversity even though Iran is not their nation nor do the Iranian peoples belong to and/or share any of their alien ethnicities, cultures and traditions including their excessive procreational habits.
Left unchecked, Iranians would know full well they would lose their homeland. They would know also that as an ethnic peoples, they run a very real and present risk of future enslavement (and all that this condition entails), and even banishment from their own ancestral homeland itself.
Now, I will ask you the following question!
After the above facts became manifest, would you still be thinking it’s such a fantastic idea to allow the multi-ethnic invasion and colonisation of YOUR homeland in the name of some notional ‘spicy and interesting society’?
PS Indigenous peoples don’t need the presence of assorted alien colonisers to create variety within their own nations.
Ann I don’t agree with everything you are saying, but you are more right then wrong, the melting pot, always remember we are suppose to be a melting pot and not multicultural, of the US worked until it was decided we had to allow unlimited immigration. Back when we limited the number of immigrants every year and let them melt into our base culture, bringing some new things to it the US was strong and growing. After the left started pushing the idea that forcing the immigrants to assimilate into our culture was a form of racism problems started to develop, not as many as Europe has because of the un-assimilated immigrants because a large percentage of the immigrants wanted to assimilate. The problem is more a matter of assimilation and not ethnic mix, however the fact that people feel more comfortable around members of their own race is a factor. Concentrate on the cultural side of things and the problems on the other side will ease.
After the US civil war the blacks in the North started assimilating into the base culture and while they lived in their own communities worked side by side with the whites. In many ways they became white in all but color, then during WWII (I know I skipped a lot of history and not all on my side) the blacks from the south moved north to work in the war industries, the blacks down south brought a fairly un-assimilated culture with them and race relations fell apart. Concentrate on the cultural side.
With reference to ‘Posted October 21, 2010 at 12:49 pm’ in respect of the following paragraph,
” Now, let me reverse the scenario to the deteriment of Iran which would equally apply to any non-White nation.”
The word should have read detriment – not deteriment.
My apologies!
Richard
Posted October 21, 2010 at 1:10 pm | Permalink
“Ann I don’t agree with everything you are saying, but you are more right then wrong, the melting pot, always remember we are suppose to be a melting pot and not multicultural, of the US worked until it was decided we had to allow unlimited immigration. “
I am speaking mainly of the European continent (the ancestral homeland of Whites), not specifically territories outside of it although North America was founded by White Europeans and the original intent of the Founding Fathers was that any melting pot concept was to be composed of White people from Europe, not people from the non-White Third World.
You cannot have a global melting pot society within one territory which is what you appear to be advocating. It’s totally unnatural. Place widely distinct peoples and their cultures in one living space and eventually strife and chaos will result. Bear in mind, it’s human nature to dominate – one over another. You are confortable with the founding race of North America being eventually wiped out? Well!!!
Furthermore, even in a strictly regulated environment, non-White immigrants will eventually out-procreate the founding White race and assume control of a territory not of their creation and establishing. Are you happy with the prospects of White people being dispossessed and inevitably disenfranchised of their culture(s) and self-determination which will lead to slavery and banishment? Well!
Culture on its own won’t stand. A race of people have to first create and maintain that culture. In other words, a culture does not spring from itself.
In a previous post, I suggested readers take a look at existing miscegenated societies such as those of South America. Is that the direction in which you want to see White homelands head including what is the orchestrated extinction of the White races in the process? Well!
In respect of your references to Blacks in America, what you are intimating is that somehow all would be fine and dandy providing Blacks were to adhere to the White culture which means effectively abandoning their own. Why should they do that? In fact, why should any non-White ethnicity do so where they are domicile on territories not their own.
Demanding that non-native incomers begin recognising the host culture as primary with their own respective cultures being permanently subservient to the host, ain’t going to fly even if one enacts laws to enforce this requirement. Why? Because, it’s unnatural to expect non-natives to suppress or abandon their ancestral traits and cultures in order to be accepted on the territory of another or others. It can’t be done. Only a dreamer (or what some would describe as mentally deluded ), would attempt to keep on persuing what is an impossibility in that area.
The fact that some Blacks may have apparently assimilated into what was fundamently White culture in the early days, doesn’t mean they willingly did so. Back then, Whites were firmly in control and non-Whites representing less than 10% of the nation, had no choice but to do so if they wished to survive and flourish to any degree at all. However, the majority didn’t assimilate, but tended to keep a low profile until their numbers expanded to more prolific demographic level and Marxism entered the equation. You know that the Civil Rights movement sprang from Marxism and Liberalism, what has since evolved into Marxist Liberalism.
Sufficient assimilation is only possible between ethnicities who share the same racial or closely-related roots, but even then each tends to still express pride and loyalty in its respective native culture and traditions. That’s fine as long as they still firmly and predominately retain and occupy their own birthright and/or ancestral living spaces no matter where.
You are wrong on some of the points, first the third world won’t procreate faster then the whites if, and I repeat if abortion is once more considered evil, second if the base culture stops funding the birth of more children then the third worlders can support on their own they will not out breed the whites. And one of my points was that you have to limit immigration to the level that can be assimilated, this in and of itself will prevent the ethnic percentages from varying very much. Since the 60s I have been hearing that the Whites in the US will be a minority in 20 years, it hasn’t happened yet, the percentages of all except the Hispanics have remained the same, and the raise in the Hispanic population is due to massive ILLEGAL immigration, not breeding. As I explained (granted not fully because of time limitations which are once again starting to press me) after the Civil War the Blacks in the north accepted the white culture and became like them, including having black entrepreneurs that were starting companies and large numbers of black professionals that were working mainly in the black communities. Then starting after WWI blacks started moving from the deep south and immigrating from Africa and the Caribbean the new comers had no interest in assimilating into the base culture and started pushing for a culture of their own, this got worse during and after WWII with the massive migration of workers north to the war industries. Then the left decided that expecting people to assimilate into the base culture was wrong and started their multicultural crap. The result was the destruction of the black middle class, a middle class that is just starting to regrow, and with the refusal of assimilate the race relations grew worse. Yes most groups want to live among others of their kind, but the Orientals that immigrate are busy assimilating and trying to fit in to the point that most people don’t realize how many there are in the US. Culture can handle the problem, in Britain there are blacks from the Caribbean and Hindus that are working hard to become English in every way they can. So don’t start throwing allies out before you have to.
Richard in his last post makes the point that some people are trying hard to assimilate. He mentions people like the Hindus. Also Sikhs and Chinese have tried hard to assimilate. Thai people also. The point is that immigration should be limited to hard working people who do assimilate. And then it should be capped. We need to always broaden our horizons. This espicially applies to the more advanced societies of the West who got to the heights of civilisation by being open to new ideas. Admittedly these were ideas they generated themselves back in the day. They should now realise that science is all over the globe. So now ideas can can be generated in the Eastern non islamic countries too. With the rise of science, scientists and researchers need acess to each others ideas and must meet and research together. Indeed at the moment Cambridge Uni in the UK is upset that a brilliant researcher from India was denied a visa. Now Cambridge Uni are concerned about science. Science has now changed due to the broadening of its base around the globe.
Advanced societies are valuable fountains of new ideas and should be protected but both ways: in terms of keeping an open mind and in terms of ethnicity. At the moment I feel that the West has too many immigrants and all further immigration should be banned immediately except for researchers and technology people.
On the historical point that Ann raises about the West being the teacher. True. But good students should also be applauded. The Eastern countries are good students and now are in the position in some cases to do some teaching as well. Now that the knowledge of the scientific revlotion is out it can help the whole world but only for those who can learn it.
On the issue of Iran. Iran only gave the veneer of sophistication due to oil wealth. A bit like Dubai and Kuwait today. Take away the oil wealth and you get the same old mind set of Islam. For a short while they managed to remove it (with the help of the Shah) and then with the oil wealth gave a false impression. They are back to what they do best now and that is Shia Islam. They still have the oil wealth. Boasting about some scholar or poem written way back is also something they are good at and manage to convince people not to judge them to harsly for being the women stoning islamics they are now. Somalis are learning this trick also and will tell you about the rich tradition of poetry in their country. It is just a veneer and a show to hide their embarassment at having descended so low now. Neither Iran or Somalia are civilised. I would certainly be happy for these two uncivilised countries to overun each other. They can then discuss the finer points of stoning innocent women after reading poetry. They are not of any concern to me. However, the hard working countries of the world are of concern and they are the future of the globe and they are worth protecting.
Ann surely you must know some people from other countries. That is not the macro level at which we are speaking but it is the level we interact. So surely you can see some merit in them as people looking beyond the skin coulour to them as idividuals.
I am sure that it is possible even in the West to get away from the coloured hordes. In the states Nascar racing is taking up this role albeit in an informal way due to political correcness. Nascar racing is a hundred percent white. Country singing also is good at this. Also whitetopia communites are being built where all the residents are white. They are all over the states. So if you do feel so strongly there is a possiblity for you to be living a happy and constructive life in one of these communities. They are everywhere in the States. Even here in the UK some areas have very few immigrants and one can easily get away from the coloured hordes in places like Gloucestershire for example. My point is for you not to despair but to offer you some information I have on how to live happily amongst your own people. Research places where the coloured hordes are few or non existent and go and live there. Thanks for such a spirited debated between your self and Richard. I thought I must chip in myself at this juncture since your intial response to my post.
“I agree, but only in their respective homelands of origin as is how the laws of nature would dictate. ” This was your viewpoint about my commment about fat Buddhas and Christian Crosses and the respective cultures they represent living together.
Is there law of nature operating here? Can you cite a scientific study on this matter? In my little area we have catholic church, a sikh temple, a mormon chapel, and assorted protestant churches. There has never been any trouble with any of them. Everyone gets along and things work out.
No doubt soon the Poles who have moved into the areas will set up there own church and that will be fine too. The point is if people are hard working and intelligent then there is not a problem with people living together. Each maintains their own culture and maintains their love for the adopted country. I have no love for muslim culture even though I was a muslim because I saw it to be the woman hating piece of rubbish it is. However, I do love any culture that shows intelligence and hardwork. Now if this is the case sociologically in my present area is this not evidence of the validity of the argument that the white indigenous culture in my area is safe and well and not in the least threatened. However, put some iranians in here enmass and they will be having a festival where they hit each other with iron chains and sharp implements to draw blood to show there love for Shia Islam. The festival is called muharram and is indeed bloody. See it on Google images. Put Somalis here enmass and the jihad will be on. My take on your posts is that you seem to lump everyone in the same catogory as a threat to white indigenous culuture when this clearly not the case from a soci0-cultural perspective.
No one is stopping white people from having babies and the Mormon misssionaries who operate in this area have told me of their large families. Indeed in the local chapel a mormon white women just gave birth to a baby. Ony her seventh baby. I met her and after the usual chit chat enquired about other large families. She mentioned quite a few families with lots of children.
Iran certainly needs some spice and interesting thing from Somalis because they are both uncivilised islamics. So it certainly would not bother me if they over ran Iran. Iran needs them! However, the West needs neither. The west has enough immigrants now and any more should be for strictly scientic or technological projects. People like this. Take this story for example about an Indian proffessor:
ScienceDaily (Dec. 17, 2006) — An international team of over 2,000 scientists, led by Professor Tejinder Virdee from Imperial College London’s Department of Physics is stepping up preparations for the world’s largest ever physics experiment, starting next year at CERN near Geneva, Switzerland.
The enormous CMS particle detector is being assembled piece by piece under the supervision of Imperial’s Professor Tejinder Virdee.
“Is there law of nature operating here? Can you cite a scientific study on this matter? In my little area we have catholic church, a sikh temple, a mormon chapel, and assorted protestant churches. “
The term is also referred to as Natural Law as well. Regarding the racial aspect of Natural Law, here are some interesting links.
http://www.nefy.ucl.ac.be/facecatlab/resProject/other-race.htm
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2566514/
https://dspace.stir.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/1893/112/1/YorikoHiroseThesisPlusCorrections.pdf
The 1.4.2 section of the thesis in link 3 regarding racial awareness (ethnocentrism), is obviously pertinent to the question of natural empathy with one’s own race including sexual.
“There has never been any trouble with any of them. Everyone gets along and things work out.
No doubt soon the Poles who have moved into the areas will set up there own church and that will be fine too. The point is if people are hard working and intelligent then there is not a problem with people living together. “
There are always periods of varying lengths where peoples of distinct races and cultures seemingly ‘get along’ with each other, mainly were no particular one of them dominates politically. However, when it comes to free -flow interracial mixing through marriage, for example, you will find that such practices are most definitely taboo amongst non-White groups of Third World origin where same-race/culture (ethnocentric) allegiances are far more deeply rooted than generally found in White people. Also, where a society becomes subjected to serious fiscal and social upheaval, ethnicies will automatically muster in support of their own ethnic communities rather than pulling together with every other race and culture. This is because to do so is perfectly natural. Furthermore, distinct comunities will always seek to set up enclaves for themselves once sufficient numbers of them have arisen in a given living space.
“Each maintains their own culture and maintains their love for the adopted country. I have no love for muslim culture even though I was a muslim because I saw it to be the woman hating piece of rubbish it is. However, I do love any culture that shows intelligence and hardwork. Now if this is the case sociologically in my present area is this not evidence of the validity of the argument that the white indigenous culture in my area is safe and well and not in the least threatened. However, put some iranians in here enmass and they will be having a festival where they hit each other with iron chains and sharp implements to draw blood to show there love for Shia Islam. The festival is called muharram and is indeed bloody. See it on Google images. Put Somalis here enmass and the jihad will be on. My take on your posts is that you seem to lump everyone in the same catogory as a threat to white indigenous culuture when this clearly not the case from a soci0-cultural perspective.”
Your above outpourings are based more on sentimentality and emotion than realism from a academic/scientific type perspective, that is.
Poles are White Europeans and practice European evolved Christianity while sharing similarities in both race and culture with other White European ethnicities. Non-White ethnicities do not.
“No one is stopping white people from having babies and the Mormon misssionaries who operate in this area have told me of their large families.”
Good for the Mormons, I say!
Yes, unfortunately, White people have tended to put childbearing /childrearing at the bottom of their list of priorities. There are at least three reasons for this as follows
1. is the need for both partners to work just to maintain a moderate standard of living.
2. Naked careerism where females put off childbearing until they’ve established a home and stable lifestyle with their partners, a practice which ironically later often proves to be problematic for many in relation to an ability to then conceive at all.
3. The Cult of Feminism from the early 1960s to the present, is also playing a negative psychological role, ie, engendering an anti-child mindset amongst women and is busying fostering the same mindset in non-White ancestral homelands too.
Arabconqueredpersian I thank you for the complement. Yes immigration should be limited in number and to those who are willing to assimilate, even then there will be racial tension, there is always racial tension on all sides until the sides merge. Back in the 1850s there were signs all over the States NINA, no Irish need apply, rather then cry about this the Irish worked hard to assimilate and for a long time made up the majority of police and firefighters in the big cities.
As to why the Buddhist, Christians, Hindu’s and other religions can share a region and not fight is that non of those religions think they have to forcibly convert everyone in the world. All religions have the right to work to convert people in all nations. I just wish the world would be more peaceful about it.
Ann you have a point, and a good one, history does say that two races living in contact are going to have conflict, but so far as I remember the conflicts have been because both sides kept their own culture. Yes genetics plays a larger role in human behavior them most people are willing to accept, but culture plays just as important role in most cases. There are times when the genetics play the most important role and times when the culture play the most important role. One point on the genetics issue, the White Northern European male tends to be the slowest to anger of all of the races, but once angered they are the most efficient at the violence. They are the ones that put murder on an assembly line bases, this is why I really don’t think there will be a genocide of the White Europeans. Having said that I don’t see anyway out of massive violence and war in Europe and probably the US during the coming decade, if I am reading the mood of the people on both continents right by this time in 2020 all sides in the war and all groups in the war will have routinely done things that are currently unthinkable. We are in a clash of civilizations, and at a turning point of history. Read the actual history of Europe before you decide that the Europeans and Europe are dead. Various of the leaders in all of the countries are selling out their nations but the common people, the little people are getting mad, they are the people who created the successful conservative revolution known as the
American Revolution, and the liberal revolution known as the French Revolution, the revolution that Karl Marx took his inspiration from. So when the nation you are living in resorts to violence work hard to ensure it is a conservative revolution that is working to restore rights not a liberal revolution working to find new ones. Liberal revolutions always end in dictatorship and terror.
Richard
Posted October 21, 2010 at 7:01 pm | Permalink
“You are wrong on some of the points, first the third world won’t procreate faster then the whites if, and I repeat if abortion is once more considered evil ….,”
Surely, you mean to say ‘if abortion is once more not considered evil since, I assume, you mean they, the third world, would be more likely to avail themselves of this procedure in such circumstances. Incidently, in my opinion, abortion is indeed evil. Let me explain why I believe so!
When abortion was originally drafted and first legalised, it was designed to relieve women of having to continue with a pregnancy who were the victims of rape, women suffering mental or physical ill-health and for foetal abnormalities . Furthermore, it was only sanctioned within the first four or five months, if I recall. Even four months of gestation is too advanced , in my view.
Today the goal posts have indeed been shifted to an outrageous degree. Full-term fetus abortion, called partial-birth, has now been pronounced under practically any frivolous pretext as acceptable by the political elite and medical professions of the Western world.
Such an enactment of law is grossly grotesque and, in truth, is actually murder since it is the premeditated killing of a fully-formed human being.
“second if the base culture stops funding the birth of more children then the third worlders can support on their own they will not out breed the whites. “
What a total misrepresentation of the truth and very telling as regards your racial opinion of White people.
Firstly, the White races collectively are actually rapidly diminishing at an unprecedented rate and today represent only between 7% and 8% of the world’s population. In other words, the non-White races comprise collectively 92% or more of the world’s population.
Secondly, whilst some non-White ethnicities do limit their numbers of offspring significantly, the vast majority of non-White ethnicities do not. Most certainly this fact can be starkly observed in every White homeland they’ve been enabled to invade and colonise, not to mention the same proclivities visible in their own ancestral homelands.
What is also being deliberately overlooked by indigenous White advocates of non-White immigration, is that all of these races collectively will inevitably and in this century, out-breed indigenous White inhabitants in every White homelands even if all immigration were to be halted in its entirety today.
Furthermore, close proximity to White inhabitants allows non-Whites access to White partners coupled with the fact that Whites who reject non-Whites are now starting to be deemed racist and already, I’ve come across one news item not that long ago, of a Black man in America publically accusing a White female of being a racist simply because she didn’t happen to be attracted to him. Consequently, this translates as stealth attempts at forced interracial sex as if the voluntary version of miscegenation on the part of empty-headed Whites, isn’t destructive enough on its own.
Only Whites live under the threat of employment dismissal, employment blacklisting (pardon, the pub), public vilification and imprisonment for something called racism which is not a crime at all, but a handy whipping stick invented by Leon Trotsky to beat down the White goyim underfoot. (Incidently, I can say this because I’m Jewish).
“And one of my points was that you have to limit immigration to the level that can be assimilated, this in and of itself will prevent the ethnic percentages from varying very much. Since the 60s I have been hearing that the Whites in the US will be a minority in 20 years,
They are already a minority in certain states and their overall numbers have dropped from somewhere between 88% and 91% of the population back in the 60s to around around 72% today. The 60s forecasters did not anticipate an unfettered ongoing tidal-wave of immigration hence their 20 years estimate. Of course, the time span for the White races’ slump to minority status has long since been tremendously accelerated due to the open borders and illegal asylum invasion.
” hasn’t happened yet, the percentages of all except the Hispanics have remained the same, and the raise in the Hispanic population is due to massive ILLEGAL immigration, not breeding. “
So, are you suggesting that over the past 50 years or so, non-Whites already domicile in America and elsewhere in the White world, have only been having on average, two offspring instead of four or five. It seems to me, you are hoping people doubt their own eyes whilst going about their daily lives and thus end up deceiving themselves?
“As I explained (granted not fully because of time limitations which are once again starting to press me) after the Civil War the Blacks in the north accepted the white culture and became like them, including having black entrepreneurs that were starting companies and large numbers of black professionals that were working mainly in the black communities. “
True enough! However, what they were following was not White culture, but their own Black version of it replete with Black Christianity. The vast majority aside from the odd Uncle Tom, remained loyal to their own race at all costs whilst still harbouring deep resentment for Whites which they largely successfully concealed during this era in order to better their own lot and don’t forget, Whites were firmly in control back then.
“Then starting after WWI blacks started moving from the deep south and immigrating from Africa and the Caribbean the new comers had no interest in assimilating into the base culture and started pushing for a culture of their own, this got worse during and after WWII with the massive migration of workers north to the war industries. “
Again, good points. I would, nonetheless, put it to you that those original 1890s, 1920s, 1930s, and 1940s, descendants of slavery themselves had never fully assimilated into White culture either and had for centuries prior, been taking active steps to educate their offspring about their African roots and African culture, all of which is perfectly natural behaviour, of course.
“Then the left decided that expecting people to assimilate into the base culture was wrong and started their multicultural crap. The result was the destruction of the black middle class, a middle class that is just starting to regrow, and with the refusal of assimilate the race relations grew worse. “
I’m not sure what hymn sheet you are singing from here, but the Left’s intention was as it still is, to destroy both the White middle and working classes, not the Black. Blacks predominately have and still are being favoured by the Left since the setting up of the Frankfurt School in the US, when their plan reached fruition in the early to middle 1960s.
For whose benefit do you think Affirmative Action and Political Correctness was invented?
“Yes most groups want to live among others of their kind, but the Orientals that immigrate are busy assimilating and trying to fit in to the point that most people don’t realize how many there are in the US. Culture can handle the problem, in Britain there are blacks from the Caribbean and Hindus that are working hard to become English in every way they can. So don’t start throwing allies out before you have to.”
Well, in the UK, for example, Orientals as a distinct ethnicity are not assimilating by which one means mixing with and adopting the cultural mores and traits of the White host population, save a few exceptions here and there which is not the same as group assimilation at all.
Polls carried out fairly regularly tend to point to non-White ethnicities seeing themselves as Asian first, not British. They know they can’t be racially English, Scots, Welsh, etc because they are not indigenous and White anymore than White people could refer to themselves as Indian, Pakistani, Somalian or Congolese were they born in said territories.
Ann it is interesting that you say you are Jewish and yet so strongly identify yourself with a skin colour. I would have thought being of Jewish background that Jewishness would be the key component of your identity. As I understand it not all Jews are white and some have distinctly kinky hair perhaps due to the fact that there is a 10 percent african component to the gene pool of Jews. However, I am going to take it that your main indentity point is being white and we will proceed from that point.
“I agree, but only in their respective homelands of origin as is how the laws of nature would dictate. ”
I loooked at the links you gave me but could find nothing in them about geography. I could find nothing in them about respective homelands. The links talk about the development of the psychological development of other race awareness. So what? I am aware as are you of other races. I am even aware of others species such as cats. However, I do have a rational mind that allows me to operate on a more advanced level then the raw programming that nature has given me. I can see the value in another human being and am not obssessed like animals are with territorality. Territoriality is a function of the primitive (reptilian) brain that is not as advanced as the rational part of brain (the cerebral cortex) which allows me to override the primitive brain with all its built in programmes such as sex drive or territoriality. If we operate on the basis of the reptilian brain than clearly a black person and a white person can not live in the same country. However, we have a rational brain that thinks things through and lo and behold we can overcome our primitive nature and cooperate!
Now tell me what is your ideal world. Is it a world where only white people live in white countries with the coloured hordes removed forever? This world used to exist but is gone forever. Rather than ruing that fact why not study the history of those all white times and immerse yourself in that world vicariously while living in a white community with no tv. You never know when Chris Rock might pop up on the box. Seriously though we may as well all get used to the fact that the world in which we live in is the world as we find it and thus of necessity we must adapt our thinking towards it in the best way we can.
Whites control most of the world’s land. Russia is the world’s biggest country with the largest amounts of oil and gas in the world. The USA, Canada, Australia and Western and Eastern Europe is plenty of land. A few millions brown and blacks is not going to make too much difference when so much land is available.
Whites have a vast culture in a vast land. They will hang on to it because they have vast amounts of money as well. They control the biggest chunk of the world’s economy. The Asian countries are still playing catch up. The Western Economy is about twice as big as that of East Asia/India.
Whites not only have the biggest economic engine in the world they have the most innovative. With the greatest amount of land, the biggest economy, the most inn0vative economy on the planet why do you think that a billion white people are in such mortal danger of being wiped out? If anything the present scenario shows the trimphant power of whites over the whole world. A minority (though a large minority of one billion white) control the world and their white culture is not in any danger. If anything it keeps on producing new and innovative films, art etc More so than the rest of the world put together. There are now more white people in existence than every before. They are richer and more technological advanced than they have ever been. And even after losing their colonies they still possess the most land. The white people of earth can be characterised as a large minority which is the most powerful group in the entire world.
Ann I am white, and I am not a white that hates my own race, I don’t know how things are in Britain or Europe but in the US the main pusher of abortion is Planned Parenthood, this group was founded in the early part of the 20th Century for the reason of improving the human race by aborting out the weak and sickly. It was originally sold to some people as a way to abort the black babies and destroy the black race. Currently they are aborting more blacks then whites, even though the blacks are only about 11% of our population.
Now on the subject of the taxpayers not being forced to pay for the continued births of babies to the unmarried poor mothers that are usually but not always black. During the 1980s the number of babies that would increase the amount of welfare you got was 2, once this was put in place a slow but significant drop was noticed in the birth rate of the welfare families. Then in the 1990s the payment for more then 2 babies was restored, the birth rate returned to what it was before the original change was made. So yes if the government/culture/tax payers weren’t forced to pay for the large number of illegitimate kids the minority races in the US would drop to the rate of increase of the whites. So yes the birth rate is tied into economics, most people are decent enough not to bring kids they can’t support into the world. Once the government starts paying money for the kids, and increasing it with each kid the government is encouraging the increase of the welfare class.
As far as the Third World goes Africa is busy with the tribes/nations slaughtering each other and AIDS is spreading faster there then in any place besides Thailand. The last figures I saw said that something like 50 to 60% of the Africans of both sexes that are in the childbearing age are hot only HIV positive but quite often in full blown AIDS. The projections are that by 2050 the Blacks in Africa will have dropped in population to around 5% of what it currently is. The Moslem nations are also infected but are refusing to tell their AIDS rate, however given the ease of divorce and remarriage as well as the strain of pedophilia that runs through the Arabic culture it is safe to estimate that the rate is at least double the European and American rates. The rates, projections and estimations are coming from the UN so you decide how much you want to trust them.
Richard it is true that the birth rates of blacks have gone so low that one pastor in the states has even said that blacks may be wiped out. He is exaggerating for preaching effect. But you get the point.It is not some law that non-whites procreate faster than whites. There are issues behind each increase and decrease in populations of differerent people. Back in Iran they had the crazy idea of increasing theire population. They doubled it pretty quickly after the islamic revolution. More mouths to feed but same old oil wealth. The nation’s income dropped by a half. Now they are promoting birth control. Having a large population is touted as a good thing by some but in reality a stable wealthy population is good thing as it allows government planners to plan better. A run away population can destroy the wealth of thatcountry if that country does not generate extra funds to support those people. In Saudi Arabia which is increasing their population from a low base the per capita income has fallen lower than that of some of the eastern european countries. The same old oil wealth but more mouths to feed. The world bank for 2009 gives the iranians a per capita income on a purchaing power parity of 10,939. For Saudi Arabia it is (from the same source) 23,272. Both these are in dollars. Now take a country like Denmark with a stable population. They have increased their wealth per capita. It now stands at (from the same source) at 35,828. They have used the same amount of energy to produce more goods and have developed new income streams such as wind power electricity generation. So while people like Ann are bemoaning the lack of white people the actual stratagy of white people of maintaing a stable population and increasing income streams has made white people even more wealthy than previously. The third world countries of iran and saudi increase their population without generating new income streams and then nose drive into comparitive poverty. This is there future too. Oil wealth is like money in the bank once it is gone it is gone. More mouths to feed will make that happen quicker. There is no way back for Iran as it is too poor now (despite the bluster and boasting which par the course for them) and Saudi will never take steps to try some birth control. Meanwhile Denmark will have a bright future. A stable population, more income streams, and now the death of political correctness. Denmark is the pioneer of killing polical correctness and will reap a good return from getting tough on immigration and maintianing freedom of speech. One could say Denmark should never have allowed immigration in the first place. True but hindsight is always perfect. At least now they are taking steps thanks to the Danish People’s Party of sorthing out the problems caused by muslims immigrants. We live in an imperfect world and we make mistakes but Ann is getting way to paranoid. Things work out Ann. I do not hate the white race. Richard does not either. My personal opinion is that the white race has a prosperous future ahead.
I wasn’t talking about the birthrate of the blacks in America, but it is dropping, the normal reason for a drop in birthrate is economic, the parents or in the case of socialist and feudal societies don’t have money enough to support the extra children. This is why I am one of the once who advocate the end to paying extra money to the welfare queen moms who have more then 2 children.
And yes I know the Moslem nations are due to go into a population decline, I am not one of the people who think the population decline will end the jihad but it will help. History shows that when the worlds population reaches a point where it is hard to support them without reducing every ones standard of living the population starts dropping until it reaches a level that an be supported. The limits of growth people don’t need to push for big government to limit the worlds population, economics does it for them. And as far as the world running out of mineral resources most of them can be found on various moons and the asteroids. If of course the left is removed from power so we can do the research to go into space to stay and to develop the mineral resources out there.
Yes you are right the middleast is due to go to a massive fertility decline. Indeed demographers have noticed the trend already. On your last point of going to other planets that is certainly the future. It certainly is where the imagination of white people is. I am reading science fiction these days and I know some elements of the literature will most definately come true.
I want to do a little comparison between Russia which is the biggest country in the world full of white people with Bangladesh which is a small dark brown country. The russian popultaion acccording to the CIA fact book is slightly greater than 140 million. This about the same as the population of Bangladesh. Now according to a gentleman called M Ashgar a former native of Bangladesh we learn these facts:
“The total size of Bangladesh is 144,000 sq. km. Out of this, 10,090 sq. km. are occupied by water, thus leaving 133,910 sq. km. of land for its people’s use. Take out the land that is occupied by its forest, hills and roads etc., and what do we find?
Bangladesh has only approximately 115,000 sq. km. of land for its 140 million people to live on and to cultivate food for their sustenance and also to set up mills and factories to produce goods for their own consumption and export.”
The white people of Russia with the same population numbers live in the world’s biggest country with the largest oil and gas reserves in the world.
So how can Ann complain about the sorry state of white people. It simply does not add up when one does direct comparison between the coloured country of Bangladesh and the white country of Russia. White countries may have problems (all countries do) but a comparison of the problems reveals that coloured countries in no way have the upper hand and will continue to suffer via overpopulation and not enough land and industry to meet their needs.
This is not to say these people should be invited to live in the west. Indeed the borough of Tower Hamelets is full of Bangladeshies. That borough is the poorest in the UK. The Bangladeshies used to be the number one unemployed group in the country of the UK now that dubious honour belongs to their fellow islamics from Somalia. Clearly all such immigration should be halted.
When you make this comparison you need to make a distinction about the size of the livable land, granted when you do this Russia is still a larger nation. The problem is that the climate in Russia is extremely harsh (they are predicting the hardest winter in 1000 years this year) which increases the amount of land that is needed to feed on person. Under the Czars Russia exported food, under communism it had to import food, thanks to the massive number and size of the wild fires they had they are once again importing food. This is why the price of wheat products using wheat is increasing, as well as potatoes and hops. And if their winter wheat crop was not planted in time because of the fires the prices will increase again next year. Remember in warm climates you need less food to survive then you do in cold climates.
As to the Science Fiction, I started reading it in 1957 and I am still amazed at the vast number of things that the SF writers of the 40’s, 50’s and 60’s got right. Including Islam going on the march against the West in the early 21st Century. Of course back then almost all of the best SF authors were scientists, engineers and history buffs.