Things are getting interesting…
ABC affiliate WKRP Channel 2 in Nashville did a story on the Former Muslims United ad placed on a Lamar Advertising digital billboard near the Stone’s River Mall in Murfreesboro, Tennessee. FMU colleague and executive director Nonie Darwish was interviewed as were a cross section of the community who had viewed the ad. Darwish said:
“I have no problem with religious aspects of Islam but Islam is majority a political system,” she told News 2. We are trying to alert the public. I don’t want to see it because they’re aiming at the Bible belt.”
Watch the WKRP news video. The WKRP news report, follows:
MURFREESBORO, Tenn. – The controversy over plans to expand the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro and construction a new mosque in Rutherford County continues.
The latest outburst against the mosque is an electronic billboard near the Stones River Mall.
The billboard, paid for by former Muslims, reads, “Stop the Murfreesboro mosque” and lists the Web site of Former Muslims United, an organization made up of people who used to be Muslim, sharing their opposition to Islam.
Nonie Darwish is a member of the California-based organization.
“I have no problem with religious aspects of Islam but Islam is majority a political system,” she told News 2. “We are trying to alert the public.”
The green background represents the Saudi National flag with the Muslim profession of faith on it.
According to Former Muslims United, the children on the billboard represent the target of the threat.
Darwish said, “I don’t want to see it because they’re aiming at the Bible belt.”
The billboard is the latest in the controversy that began weeks ago when the Rutherford County Planning Commission approved the project.
Mosque protestors are planning to present a petition to the Rutherford County Commission at the commission’s next meeting in August.
Because county officials already approved the proposal, it is solely up to them whether the project will continue.
WLIL, you really do need to be checked out by a “shrink.”
I am seriously worried about your mental state!!!
Salam
I think Ken Maynard and WLIL do have a lot in common though…like they could be somehow related… In the “new world” or “progressive” language they could be described as “MENTAL CONSUMERS.”
” Anne M, I thought you were kind enough to retyped some of my comment though in an haphazard manner”
Well, no, actually I didn’t retype anything, I copy and pasted, so there was nothing haphazard about it, I put it down EXACTLY as you said it.
You have been given numerous chances to explain yourself, to give examples, to talk about your experiences and to clarify.
I don’t see how giving someone clear cut opportunities to explain their side is in any way indicative of Islamic extremism and cruelty.
Reacting to this by telling us that it’s none of our business is not a debate.
period.
And when people keep on adding one post after the other after the other in response the way you do, it is emotion that is driving it, and not any desire to have an actual discussion.
It is very simple
Give just one concrete example of why you think how you do and there might be a chance.
For example, name one thing that you disliked about living in an Islamic environment.
Anything at all
Many people ask me questions, and bring up things that bother them.
No problem,
They have different views
No problem
My friend Kelsang says all the time
It is not that I wish to change my religion, I want to keep my religion, it is that we believe that we should learn from each other.
When I learn about you, I learn about myself, as well.
She brings up many issues, and she is respectful, so no problem
regardless of whether she agrees or not
I respect that she wants to stick to her Buddhism.
She respects that I want to stick to my Islam
I have many friends and acquaintances like that
It is really very simple.
Again, another round of irrational advice, meaningless analysis and meaningless greeting from another islamic. First they irrationally implied their sharia is better and now I noted those unkind islamic/pro-islamic tendencies to irrationally imply that that any nonbelievers who criticised their islamic behaviours or islamic culture ought to see a shrink! If we nonbelievers were to gullibly follow everything what those mindless zombies or unkind islamics or pro-islamics tried to impose or tried to nastily irrationaly imply, our nonbelievers quality of life would surely never get any better. It is just a typical nasty tactic of those islamics or pro-islamics who seems to want to spread their madness (and who are unable to see their own islamic madness or their own irrational islamic mental state), to irrationally, misguidedly, wrongly and unkindly pushed us rational, decent nonbelievers, who have no need to see a shrink, just because we nonbelievers criticised their horrible islamic culture.
Anne M, I already indicated I that I am not interested to continue any debate with you or with Ahmed. I only seek to defend myself of all the accussation that you tried to heap on me. Even if you copy and pasted my comment, you should have put the appropriate openning and close inverted comma at the beginnnig and at the end of my comment which you failed to either intentionally or not, failed to do so. You were certainly not respectful in this blogsite. That is why I question your haphazard intent. Whoever you have as your friend is none of my business. I am not interested in who your friends are. I noted you were the first one to put up your arrogant comment with your disrespectful tone on this article. I have to say that I did not like your disrespectful, haughty tone . You keep on asking the same old question even though I already specified alot of reasons with regard what I don’t like about living in an intolerant islamic infested environment. And now you are arrogantly trying to imply that you are giving me chances with your disgusting “high and mighty” islamic attitude. I am not interested in furthering any discussion with you or ahmed except to defend myself. When you and Ahmed in the very beginning, did not even bother to type exactly what my intial is on this blogsite, while trying to imply incorrectly all sorts about me was also most disrespectful and indecent. That is also another reason, why I am not interested in having discussion with disrespectful people like yourself who expect and demand respect but never give any respect to us nonbelievers in return.
WLIL
well, I have certainly lost all of my respect for you now.
Just can it with your drama, WLIL
And seriously, who give a S*** about the inverted commas
Like that changes the tone of what you said
I was not being arrogant, whatsoever
amazing that you would see that post like it was an attack
However, you are right, I am not going to be nice to you now, because frankly it is a waste of time
The truth is that you have NO DESIRE TO GET ALONG
the truth is that you TWIST EVERY SINGLE THING INTO AN ATTACK AGAINST YOU just because the person who said it is Muslim
The truth is that if you know someone is Muslim, you hate them, no matter WHAT they do or say,
The truth is that you have not come up with ONE EXAMPLE, to back yourself up, just more ranting
The truth is that you have yet to justify your own diatribes
Like the one that you spewed out after my post about Shariah
Acting as if I was forcing your hand, or something
And calling Muslims ALL KINDS OF NAMES
So you are right, I no longer have any respect for you
The Truth is that you have NOTHING INTELLIGENT TO SAY ABOUT ISLAM OR ABOUT SHARIAH, at all
and you want to hide that fact by spewing out a bunch of whining crap and acting all abused
So like my brother Abu put it, cry me a river
and then crawl back under your freakin anti islam rock and STFU.
Subhanallah
Sister Anne, as salamu aleykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu!
Alhamdulillah, all praise is to Allah only!
Sister, it is a long known fact, that a same person cannot reason with an insane one. You have tried your best to be reasonable with WLIL, who in fact is very unreasonable, and it is not working out. He or she has received a status of a comic here in my community, which is great for he/she has not done anything but prove my point 🙂
Now, there is a interesting little twist to the posts of “WLIL.” I wanted to ask you, did you catch how the grammar, word structure, and word usage changes between the posts of “WLIL” which leads me to believe that either; it is not only one person posting under that nick, OR “WLIL” is getting some English Language assistance from someone, probably from the site’s moderator. 🙂
For instance “WLIL’s” last two posts differ greatly with the earlier posts under the same nick, being the last two using much better English. I just think it is pretty interesting.
Oh by the way, sister, remember, this is THE ONLY battleground that haters like WLIL and other have balls to show up. Just imagine the humiliation they would be in, in front of their own folks if they attempted to debate any serious Muslim scholar, let’s say on national TV, or even somewhere open in a public debate??? I would give my pay-check just to see that show 🙂
Yes, yes, they will scream victimization and bullying again, but who gives a flip what they say… come on, not one of them here has been serious enough.
Anyway, good to see you are still doing well and visit this blog every once in a while.
Und ja, ich habe es fast vergessen, du brauchst nicht boese zu sein. Es ist wie dass du mit dem Wand sprichst wenn du mit WLIL ein gespraech haben moechtest! Es ist ein komisches show fuer mich! Mach dich locker schwester und geniesse die show! 🙂
Salam und alles gute!
Abu Ahmed
Anne M, I am not going to get along with your bullying by your islamic friend or any proislamic people. I simply had enough. I don’t want to learn anything bad from you or anything bad from other islamics. And now Ahmed trying to imply all sorts(of untruth) again about me about my command of english, my identity etc. Anyway,
there is nothing good to learn from you all intolerant nasty extremist islamics.
I hate for a reason. That is why I am reasonable and sane and not some unreasonable insane people like Ahmed who tried to make fun of my english or anything that I said just because of his and your typical nasty supremacist irrational islamic attitude. I guess you all islamics were so brainwashed with how “great” your islam is that you cannot never tolerate any anti-islamic criticism. Even when you and Ahmed don’t agree with my criticism, you should not have spread lies or untruth about me. That is another thing I don’t like about you and Ahmed. You and Ahmed would rather make fun of me than rebut in a civilised manner. Anyway, you and Ahmed commenting style is not only personally most insulting but when you and Ahmed tried to attack me personally with your untruth way of speaking and malicious, vicious lies that have nothing to do with me personally, it became more boring and more disgusting.
Anyway, I came to this blogsite to share opinions with other like minded decent civilised people and certainly not with vicious nasty pro-islamic/islamic
people like both you and Ahmed who had been continuously shamelessly exhibitng.
It had been a nuisance and boring waste of time reading some of yours and Ahmed nonsensical comment.
As salamu aleykum sister Anne! Did you catch that from the hater’s post?
Here is the best one yet:
WLIL; “You and Ahmed would rather make fun of me than rebut in a civilised manner. ”
WOW! Hahahahaha, rebut WHAT? Did you see anything that WLIL wrote which actually brings anything to the table? Again, he or she cannot even use proper words to start with, yet he or she wants a “rebuttal.” If there were anythung to write rebuttal to I would be more than happy to but I save ALL of WLIL’s comments and they bring absolutely nothing to the table, EXCEPT lot of tears, moaning, and crying… 🙂 how bad we “islamics” are. Yet again, “islamics”… what the heck? 🙂
Assalum Aleikom Brother Abu
I especially like this one
“Anyway, I came to this blogsite to share opinions with other like minded decent civilised people ”
Exactly. This person came to this site to pal around with like minded haters and cannot stand the idea of actually holding a conversation with someone who THINKS DIFFERENTLY.
Everything is just variations of I hate Islam because Islam sucks
Seriously, what constructive thing has this person said that even gives the possibility of discussion?
Not one specific law
Not one specific example
Nada, garnichts, nothing
And have you noticed the deflection technique, every time there is a possibility of being proven wrong, or the possibility of being held to account
then it’s
“It’s none of your business”
I don’t have to tell you were I lived
I don’t care who your friends are
HAHAHAHAHAHA
How convenient
People like that believe they have the innate right to spew all kinds of insults about Muslims and that they shouldn’t be required to stand behind and back up what they say, and if we question them then we are “bullies”
Great to see someone who is so civilized that they come to a site that has pathetic drivel like, uhm what did I see at one of the posts — a video entitled “Koran Redux” which I believe involved cooking the Qu’ran on a stove top in a pot of water, I’m not sure because I didn’t watch it
Or another one, something about Islam in Africa, with a chimpanzee jumping up and down.
Naturally they are all cheered on by Vlad/’Eeyores clapping minions.
Yeah, that ‘s impressive. Nice to see decent civilized people who are so filled with knowledge that they can bring such intelligent posts to the table.
Not one of them would last out 30 seconds with a scholar
That is why they all hang out in places like this, behaving like idiots and patting each other on the back, because if they actually had to get out of their little anti Islam cocoon and have a REAL DEBATE they wouldn’t have a damned thing to say
Well, what do I know, I’m just an evil Islamic. 🙂
Hilarious
Salam
Oh, and here’s another good one
When I mention my nonmuslim friends, then I am “bragging” and clearly imposing my views on them and I am proud of it.
” And now you are boasting about your buddhist friend or whatever friends and perhaps anyone that buy your islamic imposition nonsense. What next. I guess you would also not stop boasting about your islamic cruelty or islamic sharia, even if you end up as a victim of islam”
Wow, I guess WLIL just cannot admit that I am indeed friends with and tolerant of non muslims. This is all that WLIL had to say when I clearly proved WLIL wrong.
BUT WLIL IS NOT TWISTING ANYONE”S WORDS AROUND AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Anne M, you and ahmed can laugh all you want. If both you and ahmed and the rest of islamic inhumane species can’t even improve your strange horrible islamic behaviours, there is no point wasting time on any debate. If you were trying to show off any of your socalled tolerance, you and ahamed certainly have a strange and horrible way of showing it. What is the point of scholars, anyway, if the islamic scholars spew the same hate venom and continued to show no real tolerance toward us nonbelievers? I will never believe you, even if you have tons of islamic scholars to to try to impress me. Even like-minded nonbelievers or of other faith think differently and independently, unlike you all islamics in your narrowminded islamic world. If you want more examples, you can just go to any suffocating islamic rule countries and see all the bad examples of how horrible islamic infested environments is. I guess you are overly arrogant about your islam because you never have the chance to live as a disadvantaged nonbelievers in a horrible islamic infested hell hole and you rather believe in your islamic utopia, even when it violate our nonbelievers basic rights excessively.
Well, WLIL I never claimed to be tolerant of EVERYBODY
I am most certainly not too tolerant of you
or of people who go around spewing crap without backing anything up, the way you do.
Once again, you have completely proven your ignorance, and your arrogance, and your proclivity towards whining.
All scholars say the same thing?
All Muslims think exactly alike?
Oh really?
I actually have been to Islamic countries
I was not Muslim then
And I liked them, a lot.
Which rights of yours were violated exactly, in the “horrible, islam infested environment?
Or is that none of my business?
Now I will tell you something that is in Islam
Islam says that if you accuse people of something, or spread rumours about them, without bringing forth real evidence
And the person turns out to be innocent
Then your guilt is as great as the guilt of the person if that person had actually committed said crime.
So if you just randomly, for example, call someone a thief, without evidence
And they are not
Then you yourself are deserving of the punishment of theft.
That is how seriously we take this business of people making claims and accusations without proof and protecting innocent people against this kind of behavior.
Do you have a problem with that, or is that just too cruel for you?
I have an idea. Why don’t the three of you all rent a room somewhere. Or continue this amazingly unproductive non-debate on another board. Not that I don’t welcome you all to read posts here, or have rational discussions about very important subjects but deal people that is not what I am seeing.
There has been hundreds of posts since this one. Many of them deal with important issues that may indeed have major consequences to the way we all live etc. Islam in the west is transforming it whether you like it or not, or whether you think it is a good thing or not. This needs to be discussed. Non-decisions is the same as a decision for acceptance of whatever those with will impose in you. So I think it would be better if we of a Western, post Christian secular liberal democracy have a discussion and now about what we want our nations and culture to look like in 15 years.
Thanks for coming here but really, I can tell you are all too bright to be bickering at this level. Try dealing with the issues. If you don’t get an answer that you like, move on to the next thing.
I would never thought that I would say this, but I absolutelly agree with Eeyore and his last post.
Salam
Anne M, When I said islamic people have a general tendencies to be nasties, that was my opinion and I have a right to my opinion, whether you like or not. I did not accuse any any person directly or any innocent person that you tried to claim. You and ahmed are a team of bullies but also a team of troublemakers which I will try to avoid having discussion with except to defend myself. Anyway, there were too many islamic people, including you and ahmed have been nasty to me. You and Ahmed were the ones to accuse me all sorts of things just because you did not agree with my anti-islamic views, which was based on unpleasant reality. I know you were trying to defend your islamic brethren and willing to stoop so low as to accuse me of all untruth. That should not be that way. I was struggling alone to defend myself while your team of islamic bullies including ahmed keep on heaping untruth on me personally. that is not right. You all islamic people are not only mean and nasty but also most unfair to us nonbelievers. If you think islamic people are nice, that is your business and you have a right to your opinion and when I said islamic people are not nice, I too have a right to my opinon. You cannot force your islamic belief or your islamic opinion on us nonbelievers who have a different view.
Anne M, you are not protecting innocent people. You are protecting islam in a devious and unfair manner. And that is why your islam is so rotten.
Sister Anne, no need to respond to WLIL, you know as well as I do, and about 20 other people who have followed this blog either online or on paper (my printouts), that WLIL is living in his/her own world. So, don’t even bother addressing the idiot. Heck, even Eeyore finally spoke up and rightfully classified it as “bickering.” 🙂
Salam
Anne M, another thing is, though I did encounter traumatising theft problems in a predominantly islamic country, I did not accuse any islamic of theft as to this day I still do not know who did it. And when I do know I would write about it just as I wrote about being verablly abused, unfairly accused of, mistreated, being suppressed and being inconvenienced greatly by islamic people and islamic misrules, islamic unfair policies (under a guise of their unmentionable ethnicity) in a predominantly islamic country in asia. There would be less and less support for your islamic community, if your islamic community continue to push your islamic irrational cruelty on us nonbelievers via unfair manner. Anyway, your islamic community cruelty or your islamc cruelty is your community own problem which you all islamic people have to address it yourself.
Abu Ahmed, you are one stupid idiot which I even hate to reply to, except to defend myself. It seems like it would be more appropriate if you address your own islamic idiocy.
On the ~impossibility~ of installing good governance in Islamic states.
All government, no matter how appointed, is the ~sum of the people~ of which the state is comprised. It is religions which shape, mould & form the worldview of the people.
Thus all government is ~the sum~ off the underlying religion.
If you have bad government, do not change the government, instead change the worldview of the people, which means first change the religion which forms & shapes the people.
When Moses led the Israelites out off Egypt, they spent a long period in the wilderness. God informed them… ~before you can enter the Promised Land & have Solomon’s Kingdom (good governance) rule over you, first sort yourselves out & lift your game~
The Israelites responded… ~Whose dumb idea was that; what’s wrong with us the way we are~ God could have responded ~do you want me to write you a list~ He didn’t, He considered mans fallen state to be… ~self evident~
The Israelites turned to worshipping idols; ~Promised Land FREE, no cost to the citizen~ Moses had to bring the hammer down HARD, on these false Gods.
Finally the Israelites did change their ways, were allowed to enter the Promised Land where the state of Israel was born. Only because Gods revealed truth changed ~the sum of the people~ off which the state is comprised.
………………………………
Muslims have fought despairing battles against bad government throughout their history; that battle continues today in the so called ~Arab spring~ movements.
People say the west should support them, I say we should not support a cause preordained to fail.
YOU CANNOT HOST & HONOR THE PARENT, THEN SHOOT ITS CHILDREN.
Islam is the parent of bad government, the parent of bad law (Sharia) the parent of bad customs like repression, corruption, heresy, nepotism & despotism, to name but a few.
Muslims cannot simultaneously honor & uphold Islam, while complaining about & rebelling against the bad government & bad law, Islam itself is ~the parent off~
If you have bad government do not depose the children, but depose the parent. To change government first change the sum of the people of which the state is comprised. To change the people you must first change the religion which shapes & moulds the people.
This is the law of Moses & the Prophets, & the law of the Father of Christ.
Christ is Gods standing prescription for effecting the necessary change in the people.
In Christ & in ~Christ alone~ are we saved.
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In closing, some of the secular comments on this site are arrogant, ignorant & Godless. If America wants to keep its freedoms, I suggest its people dispense with ill advised American self worship & start listening to God.
Ken Maynard. email… co************@***il.com
Link to home-page… http://www.communichristi.org.nz
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WLIL:
I know I run a website that is controversial to say the least. I also know that it is insulting to Islam both by the nature of criticism of Islam, which it does not tolerate typically, and occasional on purpose because while this nation remains a secular democracy, I reserve the right to criticize, mock and insult any ideology for whatever reason I choose and Islam is no exception and in fact is my main target so long as it remains the largest threat.
However, I must ask you to stop venting your spleen at these two people. While I have not read every comment, I don’t have the time or the interest to do so, both Abu and Anne have been fairly civil and willing to discuss the actual issues in presumably a rational way. I would ask you please to address the issues and ideally some other one with them and comment on whatever you like, but refrain from carrying on like this.
I will close this thread to comments if you keep on hurling insults at these people. It pains me both to read them, as it would to prevent further comments. I am very much for free speech as a rule, but as owner of this forum, I get to define it and here it means to express your opinions in a rational way and ideally observing the classical rules of logic.
This doesn’t mean no one can be insulting. Wit and repartee have a place in debate and I enjoy it. But there must be a context for it or else it is just abuse. I hope you understand and Abu thank you for your understanding as well.
Ken,
ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE!
Thanks!
Eeyore, it had been a most unpleasant time for me to having to defend myself against Anne M and Ahmed untruth accussation against me in your blogsite. Fact is Anne M and Ahmed had not been civil to me in any way. They had both been threatening, demanding, spread lies about me and accussing me lots of untruth about my comment and that is most unacceptable. It is also most unfair for both of them, typical islamic people, to team up to attack a lone commentator such as myself. I should not be afraid of their nonsense or their lies or their islamic nasty arrogance. Rest assured, I did not enjoy talking to them and have no wish to continue discussing anything with them except to defend myself. You seem to ignore the insults that they hurled against me personally which they started it in such a childish manner. I have no time for their childish nasty islamic pranks.
I agree that one should not support any bad islamic government or any opportunistic islamic rebels.
Eeyore, it was most unfair of you to tell me off but did not tell Anne M and Abu Ahmed off for their irrational and uncivilised verbal attack on me. I too don’t have time to read all their comments but some of their comment apparently referred to me were most abusive, unintelligent, vicious, mocking, full of misleading assumption, inaccuracies and therefore I find their indecency most disgusting. I hope you take note of my complaint.
Eeyore, I am as shocked as the next person is that I would ever ever agree with you, but I have to say that you are right. This has been a complete non conversation that is going absolutely nowhere. I would have liked to, and tried, with better or worse methods, to have brought this dialogue into discussing some actual points, but it doesn’t look like that’s going to happen.
Now
While I had difficulty following Ken Maynards post, particularily because this person’s stance on God seems to shift continuously, or maybe I am just misreading, I have to disagree with blaming bad Governments in the Islamic world on Islam, since the corruption, etc there is quite separate from what Islam actually teaches.
However, my real question is this.
Has there ever been an actual consensus on what the word “Secular” in put into action means?
Because it seems like a definition that is slippery when put into practice, and some people/Systems actually use this concept of separation to be quite controlling.
To me, if a State is truly separate from Religion then this means that it has neither the right to tell people to practice, nor the right to KEEP people from practicing.
And if it then makes laws curtailing religious expression it is not, in fact, staying separate.
So I would like to know exactly what people such as Ken mean by secularism, and how they distinguish as secular comment from a nonsecular comment.
Thanks
Anne:
I can’t speak for anyone but me of course and certainly not for Ken as I have never met him or spoken to him.
I can offer a few overly condensed and easily misinterpret-able bullet points on this though from my own perspective only.
There have been a few phrases and principles which, in my opinion, have been grossly misused recently. One of them is freedom of religion where an idea, notably that a person should be free to worship any gods in any manner they wish without fear of persecution by the state. (probably due to wars in England between Catholics and Protestants) This principle was never meant to mean that a person could break any law of the state because it made his religion inconvenient. Life has always been about choices. For example, if a woman chose to go live in Saudi Arabia from Canada there are certain things she must do. Dress differently, and speak Arabic for two things and of course, give up driving a car and get used to having to be a piece of chattel to a man who has title to her. That sort of thing.
So when Muslims or Sikh’s or Jews or Catholics move to Canada, they should expect that as a secular state, the institutions of state remain free of religious symbolism or dogma. The RCMP uniform for example should never have been altered to allow turbans. Public schools should not allow rooms to become mosques. If you want your child to have a Muslim education you have that right. Build a Muslim school and send him there. So long as what is taught in that school does not violate Canada’s laws of sedition and so on, and the student meets the criteria of academic standards that are required.
The question you asked really needs to be asked with several more questions at the same time. And as I am in the middle of about four projects now, I can’t give the answer it deserves in full. But you do ask a very important question.
Why has no one doused the mosque site in pig blood and why has no one buried a dead pig at the site? Have we learned nothing from Spain as to how they stopped the building of mosques? Please wear masks, video tape it and take pictures too, then send it to EVERY media outlet, they will be unable to build the mosque! any butchers reading this? You know what to do……..LONG LIVE AMERICA.
Brian, thank you for such an intelligent advice! 🙂
Please, do so, and then be surprised 🙂
I also find it interesting that YOU are hyping SOMEONE ELSE for the task.
Aren’t you brave enough to lead by example?
ALLAHU AKBAR!
OH NO!!!!!!!
NOT THE PIGS AGAIN!!!!!
ABU
BROTHER
WHATEVER WILL WE DO????? :-O
Salam 🙂
Anne:
From your point of view, encourage them. Its idiotic and will do no good from their perspective at all but may stop them from doing something actually useful like the following.
http://vladtepesblog.com/?p=36311
Which I will encourage people to do instead of concerning themselves with false notions of what Islam is. Better to use the law and what Islam actually is to stop its spread and the construction of new mosques.
Hehehehehe, I think, sister Anne, we will just use good old plain water and wash it away… eh?! What you think sis!?
🙂
Well, Brother Abu, I always did want to know how versatile my household cleaner are.
🙂