Invasion of the holographs, and Sam Dube speaks with Deloris Cahill: Links 2 for December 26, 2021

1. NASA has hired a priest to help humans prepare for alien encounters.

(Now here is a good reason why government should not be able to invent money out of thin air.)

NASA is recruiting a priest to assist in the preparation for humanity’s first contact with aliens, which sounds like a bad sci-fi movie plot.

They aren’t being launched into space to battle a space monster.

NASA has hired 24 theologians to help them figure out how different religions around the world would react to news of extraterrestrial life.

Reverend Dr Andrew Davison, a theologian at the University of Cambridge who also has a doctorate in biochemistry from Oxford, is one of them.

“A theologian is someone who studies God’s nature, religion, and religious beliefs,” according to the Collins dictionary.

Why is NASA hiring religious experts now?

NASA has enlisted the help of a British priest to prepare for extraterrestrial contact.

(If I ever believed in extra terrestrial life contacting or visiting Earth before, I stopped the minute the US government went on TV to tell is it is all real. All the recent encounters detailed are well explained by holography, which I am sure has advanced like all other forms of info-tech to the point where it can account for what some US navy pilots saw. Also, the claim that one US military base in Virginia is being “harassed daily” by UFOs is not backed up by what should be so much evidence Netflix would have a 50 episode series of it by now. Instead nothing.

Now watch the video below from March, 1997:

Looks more like a projector turning on to me, than something appearing from somewhere else. And how much better would that kind of tech be now? Over 20 years I might think the military with its unlimited fiat budget could have progressed holographic projection quite far.

This one for example, is for sale on Ebay now for under $120.00

2. Rapid antigen false-positive testees are clogging up ERs at hospitals. 

(So finally they get their overwhelmed hospitals! All they had to do was make everyone take a really bad test to get it!)

3. HORROR: Four Young Soccer Stars from Four Different Countries Die This Week After Suffering Sudden Heart Attacks

Four young international soccer stars died this week after suffering a sudden heart attack.

Croatian footballer Marin Cacic, Oman international player Mukhaled Al-Raqadi, Egyptian goalkeeper Ahmed Amin, and  Algerian football player Sofiane Loukar all died this week, the COVID world reported.

4. While the government prepares its newest gaslight about aliens coming to Earth, the real horror appears to be coming from how they plan to imprison us in our own heads.

5.  Dr. Sam Dube PhD., MD. interviews Prof. Deloris Cahill

Thank you all for your support and efforts over these most important holidays.

Children’s Health Defence I believe is Robert Kennedy Jr.’s site

 

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55 Replies to “Invasion of the holographs, and Sam Dube speaks with Deloris Cahill: Links 2 for December 26, 2021”

    • I’m assuming your kidding 🙂

      But there was no digital tech back then. The tools they show in the video are quite modern. They used analogue computers and simply did not have the tech to fake a video like that. Check the most high budget science fiction films of 1969 and you see the best Hollywood could do. And it wasn’t very good.

      Faking weightlessness for real is done inside an empty 747 pulling 1 negative G. That is how they train astronauts for it. What is in this video looks like standard hollywood wire tricks.

      If you are in the mood for a really great feel good movie about this subject, try and get your hands on an Australian film make back when Australia was a culture and a people, called, “The Dish”. One of my all time favorite films but also goes a long way to proving the moon landing.

      • No I am not kidding. Moon landing videos are “lost” now, I believe that is what nasa says. Moon landing videos show flag waving in the wind, shows the foot prints in the light dust but their tin can with a jet under it didnt displace any dust at all. Im just going by memory. When the 1st astronots were asked,not to long ago, what they saw up there, 1 will say that its just black and nothing but blackness. While another says the stars are so bright and beautiful, so much to see. Lol they forget what they were saying originally. We all know water seeks its own level, we know that is a fact, nobody argues that. Well all water would have to be curved if we lived on a ball. Ships never disapear over the so called curved ocean water , just out of site, pull out your binoculors or better yet telescope and there is the ship again. Once its out of site again, just zoom in some more and there is the ship again. Earth being a ball is the biggest or 2nd biggest lie ever told. If your a scientist or anyone that shows proof earth is flat, you will be silenced and treated the same as a dr today is treated when they say covid can be treated with ivermectin or that Mrna shots are dangerous.

        If your interested, I can search some videos for you showing expirements that water is flat and so on. Keep an open mind, we can help each other sort out the lies of the world.

          • Raindrop is disturbed water. So I should have said, undisturbed water is flat and water always seeks its own level. Cognitive dissonance would be to believe otherwise.

            Nasa names everthing after greek gods and lucifer ie Apollo, etc. Nasa founded by nazis and freemasons. Obviously they are against God in every way. Thats why they decieve the world by hiding God, making people believe there is space up there and not heaven. The Greeks and Romans and before them, worshiped the sun.
            Thats why we have the nonsense of a sun centred system when we can clearly tell we dont move and the sun and moon do. Firmament over top of us, we live in what you can describe as a snow globe. Genesis and the whole of the bible is fact, and the govs do everything they can to get us to disbelieve the bible.

            You can tell how close the sun is over the earth by the sun rays that pierce through the clouds. You will notice each ray has its own angle. If you follow all those rays up they will intersect just above the clouds. The sun is close enough to the clouds that with a hole in the clouds the rays will go out in many angles. Do a quick search of pics of the sun rays piercing through the clouds. Cognitive dissonance would be to believe the sun is 90 000 000 miles away and can have the rays going every direction out of the clouds. Or another line, dont believe your lying eyes, trust the government (nasa) lol.

            • Thank you Maplewood. (I forgot to bookmark here).

              “Centuries ago science disproved Genesis 1:6-8 (which, needless to say, blew a huge hole in the story of Noah’s ark). In the creation story the heavens and the earth coexist in a physical universe. The earth sits below, covered in a little water. The rest of the water rests on a physical boundary above the earth. The stars are holes in this physical boundary through which heavenly water can fall to earth as rain. Above that is god and his angels.

              This is called the Firmament, a physical, dome-shaped boundary between heaven and earth. The Firmament is central to the Noah story. Prior to the flood, it had never rained on earth. Then god opened the Firmament and flooded the earth with heavenly water.

              But we now know that there is no Firmament. We’ve known this for 500 years, possibly as much as 1,400 years.”
              https://atheistpapers.com/2014/03/03/according-to-the-bible-we-live-in-a-snow-globe-science-proves-this-wrong-but-why-do-many-still-believe-in-the-bible/comment-page-1/

              Maplewood, you have such love and loyalty to God, Jesus and the inerrant Bible. Such is the foundation given by priests awaiting the soon returning, Messiah.

              This may have touched you in your youth, surrendered yourself, and had personal experiences that will have confirmed this as true.

              However, when you realise you are in love with love, that you have no knowledge of anything that was presented to you from thousands of years ago, that no one is watching you and counting the mistakes you make, then you may be let go from this yoke of willing slavery. For it is the truth about yourself that sets you free from receiving a blessing to avoid punishment. The call of Islam.

              Jesus faced his devil. He did not avoid him. Every Muslim must face their Muhammad that offered them rewards if they only served him.

              Thie right to be wrong is civilization’s greatest achievement, and will let you suffer to find awareness. Socialism protects that wrong with a blasphemy-shield to rescue pride.

              NASA took on German engineers for their rocketry knowledge. They were not recruited for National or International Socialism and their respective Institutes of Hate Crimes.

              Planet naming came from the Greeks and Romans, and influenced maritime nations that developed Observatories to be guided by the stars.
              https://www.greekboston.com/culture/mythology/planets/

              Latin and Greek are still used in Medicine.

              The sun’s distance varies around 90 000 000 miles away because the Earth’s orbit is elliptical. And as the Earth is tilted, we get four seasons. They are more pronounced in latitudes further away from the equator.

              Love your god. Love your neighbor as yourself. Force no one to walk one mile. Because if you do, you will find a few walking two.

              • PC Thank you for that answer. I had put some thought into answering it but would not have done nearly as good of one as did you.

                But I have another question for you please.

                Someone sent me this link to a multipart documentary on the seeming thread of child sex slavery that keeps appearing within the US. I have watched maybe 20 minutes of it but can’t bring myself to watch any more just at the moment.

                If you would care to watch some or all of it and offer an opinion, I would welcome it and be glad to read it.

                As far as I know so far, it seems to be a reasonably well done documentary and comes highly recommended.

                https://www.vtvault.org/justthetip

                at this point I am one dark horrifying conspiracy past my limit.

                • I did watch the first five minutes of this video and the technique used appears to be to scatter-fear and insert a Big Lie.

                  This video states:
                  ‘Pedophiles use ships that can be submarines, and they go under the United States of America because it floats on the sea.’

                  The same as ‘the Devil is omnipresent and will get you,’ which means we live on a Flat Earth.

                  The overloading of the brain causes the clouding of discernment. (Observed in a chicken blindfolded by one hand and rubbed rapidly all over by the other to render it frozen and fixated).

                  Terrorists will make victims believe anything. Insult, will make loyal gang members afraid of getting on their wrong side.

                  If pedophilia that becomes ‘Satan’s Work’ then the Church that rescues those most afraid becomes a constant abuser. The fear is never removed. Unchristians posing as Christians.

                  Smoke and mirrors to draw out the vulnerable.

                  This is that video. Repeat the narrative and crush resistance.

                  Wealth will create opportunities for people such as Muhammad, Mao and Epstein. Power structures to hide behind as ‘Honorable Men.’

                  But first they started as Hate Hustlers (knowing Good and Evil) on a mission to save the planet.

                  Epstein surrounded himself with lesser Gods. A network of afficionados. His girlfriend seduced young girls as ‘masseurs’ for them.

                  Whereas, pederasts, the hardcore, need this fear of pedophiles, to be able to trust them, and hand over the children to be saved.

                  Hidden in plain sight. A network of shared exploits. And the bait of the boogeyman.

                  Stay clear of such vax and of such antivax fearmongers who will play both hands.

  1. This guy has done tons of research and has 200 videos. Here are a few just by my memory that I think are good.

    16. Fish-eye lenses create images with absurd curvature!
    Rob Skiba https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLzL1qDngeVYU-9pNm1iRL8pTshEoAv363&v=KnHTV4L0mA8

    17 Easy ways of testing the globe
    Rob Skiba https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLzL1qDngeVYU-9pNm1iRL8pTshEoAv363&v=wFEx8tBgA58

    77
    Ships do NOT go over any curve!
    Rob Skiba
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLzL1qDngeVYU-9pNm1iRL8pTshEoAv363&v=nYMiGyEbjIg

    103
    Max Igan and Rob Skiba (flat Earth) Flight Direction and Level Tests
    Rob Skiba https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLzL1qDngeVYU-9pNm1iRL8pTshEoAv363&v=eMdx6F0kNJM

    146
    Debunking the “Top 10 Reasons We Know the Earth is a Globe” (Condensed)
    Rob Skiba

    • When people are sincerely misguided – holding onto the dictates of Smollett St Paul or Epstein Mohammed – working their debt to Communism or Fascism – then rejoice, the kingdom of reality is near and only a repentance away.

      But those who dupe children in the churches and in the madrassas, have tasted pedophilia and pederasty,. An appetite to breaking souls, by living and declaring exactly the same religion that justified their masters.
      https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1991-02-02-ca-234-story.html

      • Three accounts of St Paul being struck down in the street, by someone he did not know, in a MAGA hat (Make Allah Great Again).

        “At Acts 9:3-8, Paul was blinded by a light and fell down, then heard Jesus, who told Paul that he would be told what to do when he was in the city. His men did not see the light, but heard the voice. They remained standing.

        At Acts 22:6-11, Paul told the people he was blinded by a light and fell down, then heard Jesus, who again told Paul that he would be told what to do when he was in Damascus. This time, his men saw the light but, unlike Paul, were not blinded, and did not hear the voice.

        At Acts 26.13-19, Paul told Agrippa that he saw a brilliant light and heard Jesus, who gave him his mission, but did not command him to go to Damascus. He fell down, but there is no mention of blindness, nor is there any mention of the men seeing or hearing anything, although for some reason they also fell down. He told those at Damascus and Jerusalem about his conversion experience.”
        https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/15532/why-are-the-three-accounts-of-pauls-conversion-on-the-road-to-damascus-differen

        This incident, he claimed made him your Apostle.

        Jesus, the Golden Calf that takes away the sins of the world. With his imminent, stress-inducing ‘End is Nigh,’ World-destruction, replacing John the Baptist’s stress-releasing, ‘repent, and you will see the nose in front your face, (but be aware you will be hated for it).’

        • This incident, he claimed made him your Apostle.

          Ah, Saul.
          Halucinations, delusions of grandeur. A leftist as-a-jew.

          With appropriate counseling, he might have resolved his deep resentment of his parents. He could’ve become “Paul” without maligning his entire tribe. Such a gifted individual, such enduring harm.

  2. PC, you did not prove anything I said is wrong and didnt show how those expirements are flawed. I am use to it though, most wont accept they have been lied to or have been tricked.

    I have been there myself, I think we all have obviously. I also have responded like you did, to people like me in the past when this subject came up, and like you I did not want to listen or refute the expirements, I fluffed them off and thought they were crazy.

    I think you base your stance on that science proves the bible is wrong and will never listen to the contrary, because that is the propaganda we are feed from childhood. When science actually proves it is correct. Your stance is in perfect harmony with scienctism, or science falsly so called.

    You will notice that your arguements on the earth shape match the arguements of the mrna shot pushers today, repeat the mantra, ignore the facts.

    You are very well spoken PC, you can talk circles around me.

    The reason they are prepping the peoples minds for “aliens” is probably because the final events of earth are possibly soon to play out. You see the bible says in Revelation, that when Jesus returns with His tens of thousands of thousands of thousands of angels (the stars are angels the bible says, not holes in the firmament) that the whole world will war against Him.

    And before that happens, satan is to show himself on earth (he is the most powerful of all the angels God made, lol he is not a red monster like his propaganda has him protrayed, nor is there a hell under us like you said, nowhere in the bible is there such thing as hell, more falsehoods people claim are biblical) and pretend he is Jesus and the whole world will worship him and he will say that Sunday is the new sabbath (which is the mark of the beast/rome/papacy)

    The middle east just changed their weekend from fri and sat to sat and sun or sun mon, but all have sun off soon, need something big to happen for Isreal to change to sunday rest as the bible says the whole world will do and usa will enforce it

    • “I think you base your stance on that science proves the bible is wrong…”

      The bible is a book of righteousness, and forgiveness. Why would it’s primitive understanding of science (due to their lack of tools and resources), detract from it’s message of: ‘repent, for the kingdom of heaven is near’?

      It is not about knowledge, but everything about attitude and release from bondage. To heal the sick of their disease of mind and body.
      To fulfil the The Law.

      Guilt and pride can be hidden by envy and resentment. From making a great show of donating to the priests, to cursing someone down on their luck. This truth about yourself sets you free.

      The Flat Earth concept is interesting as it was once a logical conclusion. As today’s science will on day be found insufficient. But to push it, as if without it the Bible is not true, cheapens the jewels that it hid so that the blind would hear and not understand. Muslims and Communists kill people for possessing it – and it’s not because of it’s technology. It is because it reveals their Emperors have no clothes. They have an elite class of priests and politicians.

      Quite simply, your yes be yes and your no be no. To live by every word of god. To speak without memory or rehearsal, and straight from the heart.

      To be released, and therefore, born again. Healed, and reset by the forgiveness from you. For as you forgive, god forgives you.

      The religiously bound, will call you “apostate.”. To act as though god dwells in you. . Those yearning for The Last Day, never have a first day in the presence of the present.

      Happy New Year, and enjoy the writers here so that you form your own opinions! Iron sharpens iron.

      • I disagree that it is not about knowledge.
        Hosea 4:6
        “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee,”

        From how the world was created, and by whom, to the history of the world, to the diet we were created to eat, to what is good and what is evil, to the laws to live by, and who/what is behind the evil. All answers are in there.

        If we reject the knowledge of what I listed above, we open the door for theories of nothing exploded and turned into everything, undisturbed water being curved, world being billions years old, evolution, space, aliens, more than 2 genders. Open the door to men wearing womens clothes, sex change surgeries and poisons. Has the state raising our kids. Also causes lots of sickness and disease, taking from others, murder, etc. This leads to exactly where we are today.

        “Why would it’s primitive understanding of science (due to their lack of tools and resources), detract from it’s message of: ‘repent, for the kingdom of heaven is near’?”
        I am not aware of any science expirements in the bible so I dont know what you mean by that.

        Im not pushing flat earth like you said. I felt you challenged me so I had to respond. I think it is important because it will show how all govs of the world conspire against the people of the world. Which can lead to people accepting the truth of the mrna shots and what is being done to humanity. Most cant let their mind go to the thought that all govs are lying to their people.

        The great thing about this site is that others can be bystanders to discussions. Open forum of thoughts and nothing is censored.

        Happy New Year PC

        “Test all things; hold fast what is good” 1Thes 5:21

        • Hosea 4:6
          “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee,”

          This knowledge appears to mean that Israel was no longer following the Ten Commandments given on Mount Sinai.

          Though Western Governments no longer stone you for transgressing them, they are still very much things written in your heart as needed for a clean and healthy life. (Only muchausen Socialists soothe and celebrate the freedoms to deceive yourself, to slow-boil you to failure without you noticing until too late, for a price).

          Commandments so great, that they had even older origins:
          https://sens2lavie.com/en/origine-sumerienne-de-la-bible-les-preuves/

          Hosea’s knowledge was not about the Origin of Life but to not worship God in the third person. G_d is spirit, in you, not a sock-puppet with ambassador spokesperson that the people had started consulting like the rest of the pagans around them.

          Now, because he was right that such a society falls apart without a sword being drawn, does that make the other writers right that we live on a Flat-Earth? Well yes.and no. For they were right that it looks like we live on a Flat-Earth and they described exactly what we still see today. They thought the sun and moon travelled across the sky. How could they know otherwise without a Greek living amongst them? Lol.

          The law civilization.

          Long may it last for all our sakes, for blatant Muhammads, Stalins, Maos, Hitlers and Clintons attract lesser self-deceivers (who look adoringly on because their conscience is made clear) to carry out their masters works for them. And anyone living bright-eyed for righteousness sake, is hated and branded a thought-criminal.

          Be wise as a serpent, and gentle as a dove.

          Know them by their fruit.

    • “PC, you did not prove anything I said is wrong and didnt show how those expirements are flawed.”

      This question, you asked first, would have got us into a debate of ‘he said, she said,’ that avoided my ‘don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater’ about releasing the lost from the imprint of the world: that a girl from the ‘hood, does not have to think and act like a girl from the ‘hood That people can be springs of living-water who love their god with all their strength, with all their heart mind and soul, and love their neighbors as themselves – and be not clones of look-alikes and sound-alikes dutiful to their worshipful masters.

      But now to this debate of flat-Earth or round-Earth science: would a USA to Australia flight that was achieved with false round-Earth satellite navigation ideas, have been better from a flat-Earth rationale.

      When really, this debate is about the defending of your ‘God’s Bible is the Literal Truth’, perspective. This is where the real treasure is stored.

      You gave evidences on how the flat world is constructed:
      https://vladtepesblog.com/2021/12/26/invasion-of-the-holographs-and-sam-dube-speaks-with-deloris-cahill-links-2-for-december-26-2021/comment-page-1/#comment-716688

      These don’t stack up, and there is a documentary about this.
      https://www.newsweek.com/behind-curve-netflix-ending-light-experiment-mark-sargent-documentary-movie-1343362

      “….Behind the Curve offers several reasons why empirical evidence is rarely capable of turning people away from their conspiracy theory beliefs.

      “Say you lose faith in this thing. What then happens to my personal relationships? And what’s the benefit for me doing that? Will the mainstream people welcome me back? No, they couldn’t care less. But, have I now lost all of my friends in this community? Yes. So, suddenly, you’re doubly isolated,” psychologist Dr. Per Espen Stoknes says in the documentary. “It becomes a question of identity. Who am I in this world? And I can define myself through this struggle.”

      “If I tried to go…” Sargent says in the documentary, contemplating the scenario described by Dr. Stoknes. “They would come and say, ‘Don’t, don’t do it.’ So I couldn’t, even if I wanted to.”

      “Then, all of a sudden, you get people that, maybe, work in our government, that don’t believe what 97 percent of what all climate experts say,” former NASA astronaut Commander Scott Kelly says in Behind the Curve, highlighting a too-real danger of anti-science beliefs.”

      For a muslim, to wake up from dhimmitude and walk away as a human being, they will have their whole family and community shun them and be told they should kill them.. The Koran is literally true to them.

      Alas, for many of us, it’s growing up in a world of fanciful slaves who pull us back down again.
      https://faculty.washington.edu/smcohen/320/cave.htm

      • This debate is about the earth being flat, secondary is that is what the bible says. The debate is that science shows that water is flat, which leads to the world being flat. There is no such thing as consensus in science.

        “PC, you did not prove anything I said is wrong and didnt show how those expirements are flawed.” This statement still stands.

        “These don’t stack up, and there is a documentary about this.
        https://www.newsweek.com/behind-curve-netflix-ending-light-experiment-mark-sargent-documentary-movie-1343362
        Controlled oposition. I have watched that doc, it is about making fun of the idea and does not show any of the facts. This doc is made the same way CBC covers an event.
        Vlad has shown CBC tactics and this is done in this doc. Again, I will refer you to the videos I posted above, that guy has 200. He is thorough.

        “Alas, for many of us, it’s growing up in a world of fanciful slaves who pull us back down again.
        https://faculty.washington.edu/smcohen/320/cave.htm
        I think you mistakenly here have shown how we have the whole world duped into believing the ball earth.
        “4. Such prisoners would mistake appearance for reality. They would think the things they see on the wall (the shadows) were real; they would know nothing of the real causes of the shadows.
        5. So when the prisoners talk, what are they talking about? If an object (a book, let us say) is carried past behind them, and it casts a shadow on the wall, and a prisoner says “I see a book,” what is he talking about?”
        This is only possible if these prisoners are all insane, not believing their senses. (They have forgotten all of their life experiances, meaning they dont know what a shadow is nor the cause of one?)

        “The prisoners may learn what a book is by their experience with shadows of books. But they would be mistaken if they thought that the word “book” refers to something that any of them has ever seen.
        Likewise, we may acquire concepts by our perceptual experience of physical objects. But we would be mistaken if we thought that the concepts that we grasp were on the same level as the things we perceive.”
        They would be describing “ball earth people”, the people of the world who have only seen “space”, a “ball earth”, curved ocean or lake water, etc as toys, niknaks, tv and movies using camera tricks and cgi. Never have they seen these things with their own eyes.

        “But now to this debate of flat-Earth or round-Earth science: would a USA to Australia flight that was achieved with false round-Earth satellite navigation ideas, have been better from a flat-Earth rationale.” How was it achieved with round earth satellite navigation ideas?

        • Water, like any mass or liquid, is drawn by gravity.

          The moon and sun act on the sea by dragging it along as the Earth spins. Their interchange of forces brings the effects of high tides and neap tides.
          https://sens2lavie.com/en/origine-sumerienne-de-la-bible-les-preuves/

          The observable night sky is totally different at either end of the poles. “You cannot see the North Star from the Southern Hemisphere.”
          https://wonderdome.co.uk/northern-vs-southern-hemisphere-sky/

          Time runs slower away from the Earth, and so satellites factor this in.to send correct positioning data.

          The real universe is wonderful and amazing, this is the ‘kingdom of heaven,’ ‘the spirit of g_d present through us,’ but for some reason your appear to mistrust mainstream education with maybe their book-read regurgitation, pompous degrees, and debauched lifestyles of pride, and so reject all what they have to say. Retreating into an ancient book as an almanac.

          “Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written.”
          https://biblehub.com/john/21-25.htm

          So read those books unwritten, because they are vastly, vastly greater, by your own life’s experience in dealing with people in the right moment.

          I enjoyed Hosea, because he acted as I would want shout out. He did not claim.to hold his penis over anyone and offer you a lesser number of wives and what your right hand possess as spoils of war. He was saying to Israel and Judah that they were cursed by their transgressions; that he, g_d, cursed them for claiming they are the chosen people. These hypocrites! The right moment.

          He did not reject them. Love, is correcting a wayward child.

          But the short-attention span of the internet and easy-money for conspiracy theories per sensational paid viewership, makes for mistrust in our institutions, which also serves those who want our Judeo-Christian values destroyed.

          So you’ll have to be one of those who forgive them for they know not what they do, and labor to save those from troubled minds to set them free.

          Believing the world is flat, is good-enough for those who don’t fly or sail products between India to Peru.

          And believe there is a conspiracy against truth, then you won’t be wrong. For every business has a regulator. The government is split between legislative, judiciary and executive to try to prevent people lining their own pockets. Who regulates the regulator? What are foreign agents doing?

          But it is not that all people are evil. It is just reducing temptations. Know yourself to suss other people out.

          Brave men went to the moon in a tin can just to show Communism sucks and we had better beat them in space or we might be their next free lunch. They took incredible risks in achieving this.

          To see behind the bible is to see behind life. To be superficial and literal and not see the hands of the authors, is going to make the world a chattering and very noisy and scarey place indeed.

          It all starts from being still and know.

          • Gravity, another theory you propose, like that plato link, that assumes we are all insane and dont trust our senses.

            You cant brush reality away with gravity theory.

            Why cant you admit that water always seeks its own level?

            The reason an object falls to the ground is because it is heavier than air. The reason an object floats on water is either it is lighter than the water or its density is such that it is able to float. Weight and density is the reason for things to fall or float.

            Gravity dosent seem to have any relationship with reality. The oceans dont go flying through the air as the “globe” spins 1000mph because “gravity” holds them in place? the weight of that is mind boggling. And at the same time, a mosquito is able to take flight off the ground. Absolutly absurb theory to me.

            Since you bring up gravity, I want you to use gravity to explain why an air filled ballon falls to the ground but a helium filled ballon of the same size and make rises once it is let go. Use only gravity theory to explain please? Dont use my theory of weight and density. We have competing theories.

            You attack the bible it seems to me. I havent attacked your scientism cult at all though. If your scientism cult has errors in its beliefs, maybe your world view comees crashing down as you say mine will with your comments. The thing is the bible has standed up to the test of time, and we all know scientism has not.

            I cant do the research for you. I dont expect you to believe the bible or anyone who speaks of the truths in it. I just want people to know about it, many seek answers today.

            For your scientism, I have attended western education and I have watched the videos I posted at the top of this comment section years ago. I probably have 100’s of hours of reasearch, reading, watchjng. I did not come to this conclusion lightly. It does not make you any friends. That flat earrh society doc video you spoke about is controlled opposition. The guy in the videos above is thorough.

            Recap, you havent shown how those experiment videos are flawed, havent shown how water does NOT seek its own level. Now you brought up gravity which i responded. We are getting side tracked. Originally i said there is no space, and then I said world is like a snow globe and flat becasue water seeks its own level, then you jumped in.

            • “Since you bring up gravity, I want you to use gravity to explain why an air filled ballon falls to the ground but a helium filled ballon of the same size and make rises once it is let go”

              Objects less dense than their surrounding gas or liquid will be displaced. Wood floats on water. The Earth has an outer, lighter, ozone layer. Without gravity, in space, this would not happen.

              Not long ago people thought the universe was filled with Angry Gods that they had to sacrifice their first born to. This has changed with violence to enlightenment, every step of the way.

              Some people are lucky to have a good hospital near them. Their daily rigorous research, discovery and application of medical science that has lifted so many out of disease and sickness.

              “You attack the bible it seems to me. I havent attacked your scientism cult at all though.”

              See how, a greedy person believe all other people are greedy too? Those with possessions, accuse others of having possessions.

              “As Jesus started on his way, a man ran up to him and fell on his knees before him. “Good teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?”

              18 “Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good—except God alone. 19 You know the commandments: ‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, you shall not defraud, honor your father and mother.’[a]”

              20 “Teacher,” he declared, “all these I have kept since I was a boy.”

              21 Jesus looked at him and loved him. “One thing you lack,” he said. “Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

              22 At this the man’s face fell. He went away sad, because he had great wealth.

              23 Jesus looked around and said to his disciples, “How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God!”
              https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark%2010:17-25&version=NIV

              The way to the truth and the life, is too narrow for ego-attachments to pass.

              Because they project their judgement on to others, to nurse a sense of pride Indulging in pleasure or pain to make them feel alive when they are so miserable because the rich person is always poorer than someone else. Even a child’s carefree laughter can insult them with the treasure they’ll never own. Caught up with being upset.

              “Then Jesus turned to his disciples and said, “God blesses you who are poor, for the Kingdom of God is yours.”
              https://biblehub.com/luke/6-20.htm

              • “Objects less dense than their surrounding gas or liquid will be displaced. Wood floats on water. The Earth has an outer, lighter, ozone layer. Without gravity, in space, this would not happen.”

                We dont live in “space”, and your talking about density.

                So I take it you cant dispute my statements?

                This was fun PC.

                • Well, I guess it’s only me who’ll be wearing a protective spacesuit at the edge of Earth’s atmosphere should I be lucky to travel on the funicular!

                  “The oceans dont go flying through the air as the “globe” spins 1000mph because “gravity” holds them in place? the weight of that is mind boggling.”

                  The ocean would go flying through the air, if we got hit by a meteor that changed the Earths spin velocity. The same effect of being in a car at constant speed when breaking or accelerating makes us experience the force upon us.

                  Thank you so much for sharing.

                  • One of the most interesdting things I have learned about hysics, is a proof of relativity over Newtonian mechanics.

                    That is how a helium balloon will also go the opposite way when held in a car on a hard turn as say, all your cans of coke or tennis balls. So just like natural gravity as M1Xm2/D2 makes a helium balloon go up while say, rocks go down, acceleration around a corner creates the same thing in your car.

                    For some reason that still creates a child like wonder in me. Ive done it as well. Sat in the back with a helium balloon and held the string so that its not touching the top or sides.

                    • Yep, the air all goes one way and pushes the lighter balloon in it’s way, the only it can go, in the opposite direction.

                    • I didnt think my response went through last i was here. Just see this now.

                      Thanks Eeyore for your response, always look forward to it.

                      I would say,since the cans of coke or tennis balls roll to the outside of the hard turn because they are heavier than air then the opposite would happen to an object lighter than air like your helium balloon. Weight and density explain it. This is in harmony with what i said. I see below your comment, PC agrees with weight and density also.

                      From what I know of “relativity”, you need to ignore all your senses, which will bring you to the definition of insanity.

                    • I didnt think my response went through last i was here. Just see this now.
                      .
                      Thanks Eeyore for your response, always look forward to it.

                      I would say,since the cans of coke or tennis balls roll to the outside of the hard turn because they are heavier than air then the opposite would happen to an object lighter than air like your helium balloon. Weight and density explain it. This is in harmony with what i said. I see below your comment, PC agrees with weight and density also.

                      From what I know of “relativity”, you need to ignore all your senses, which will bring you to the definition of insanity.

                  • “The ocean would go flying through the air, if we got hit by a meteor that changed the Earths spin velocity. The same effect of being in a car at constant speed when breaking or accelerating makes us experience the force upon us.”

                    So the forces you speak of here are the same when in your car taking a turn at speed, so you agree if we are a spinning globe the oceans/waters would be forced outward, flying through the air?

                    Or is this one of those things that applies to everything except the globe model? Like water seeking its own level.

                    • If you use the Newtonian formula for G, if memory serves its M1Xm2/D squared, then you can know what water will do if hit by a meteor once you know velocity and mass etc. Its all pretty predictable, even using Newtonian mechanics. Relativity is totally intuitive if you can understand it.

                      Gotta say though, I enjoy the way you think and parse it all down. Its quite original.

                    • “…So you agree if we are a spinning globe the oceans/waters would be forced outward, flying through the air?”

                      No.

                      All matter will continue moving in the same direction unless another force acts upon it.

                      When sinking into the deep, the pressure gets more intense.

  3. Bible prophacy also said the papacy, little horn power would rule for 1260 years and “seem” to recieve a mortal head wound but that wound would be healed. 1798 the pope was exiled and died, exactly 1260 years after taking the throne, and it lost its political authority. It was just a relogious power after that. That wound was healed in 1929 when italy gave it back its political power.

    These are facts, people dont have to like them, they are what they are, truth.

    • Your father says, “child, if you do such and such then this will happen.”

      And so it cames to pass. The exact day, no person knows.

      So it was with the prophets.

      How much more, getting your head out of the books and teachers teaching to parrot?

  4. “Objects less dense than their surrounding gas or liquid will be displaced. Wood floats on water. The Earth has an outer, lighter, ozone layer. Without gravity, in space, this would not happen.”

    We dont live in “space”, and your talking about density.

    So I take it you cant dispute my statements?

    Thanks for the debate, this was fun PC.

    • Well, I guess it’s only me who’ll be wearing a protective spacesuit at the edge of Earth’s atmosphere should I be lucky to travel on the funicular!

      “The oceans dont go flying through the air as the “globe” spins 1000mph because “gravity” holds them in place? the weight of that is mind boggling.”

      The ocean would go flying through the air, if we got hit by a meteor that changed the Earths spin velocity. The same effect of being in a car at constant speed when breaking or accelerating makes us experience the force upon us.

      Thank you so much for sharing.

      • I have a file “/Richard/Home-Truths”, but the best comments are paraphrased in my head.

        Not all people – or even most – who share that belief system feel the need to be missionaries. They’re solid in themselves, respect others for what they do. “Good News” shouting sounds not-so-good to my tribal memory receptors.

        Every belief system other than one’s own is an abstraction; we analyze and judge those accordingly. What makes people tick is something else, faith may be part of the package. Woven into the way grandpa told you about the Flood and the Rainbow.

        Richard never laid scripture down on anybody.
        Which I really, really appreciate.

        He doesn’t use it as an argument or a garnish. It’s simply evident in his outlook, the way he understands and responds to what’s happening in the here and now. As an outsider, what I see is a real Christian baked into a healthy person.

        Over the years we’ve talked about it directly from time to time. A puzzle with different parts, put together in a better whole.

    • This reminds me of arguments about dinosaurs, how to explain them to kids. Or how to AVOID such subjects. It’s very sensitive for schools that serve religiously observant families. It’s decisive for many.

      I don’t think anything in the Bible needs to be proven or disproven by science or math or the latest philosophical trend. There’s infinite wisdom, transcendent truth. The more I learn, the more I perceive it.

      Unlike extreme fundamentalists, I DO think good faith arguing is a healthy exercise. We have the custom of studying Scripture and commentary in pairs so that we can thrash out ideas. With different partners for each year’s cycle of Torah, you get quite a work-out!
      …..
      (I WISH I could believe in hell. Those who DO believe in such formulations of eternal retribution derive great comfort in the here and now.

      I just can’t: it’s as alien to me as bowing down before a graven image.
      Or eating swine flesh.)

        • Richard sincerely believes in heaven and hell. It’s a comfort to ME that HE has that reassurance. It will help him endure whatever he’s going through right now.

          Missing him, I cry everyday.

          • “Richard sincerely believes in heaven and hell.”
            And if I did too, I would leave my job and be banging the drum about Eternal Damnation and a torture worse that any Mohammedan, Communist and Sexual will dream up to to do their apostates. I would not need to learn any skills but just read chapter and verse – for trades will be useless in Heaven.

            “It’s a comfort to ME that HE has that reassurance. It will help him endure whatever he’s going through right now.”
            If he is suffering, with a life-threatening struggle, then the going back to his ancestors, brethren, reincarnation or to be like the angles neither male nor female, will give him the fortitude to not be afraid of death. (I hope he is recovering with family and friends)

            “Missing him, I cry everyday”
            Yucki, what can be done? It has left a hole in your heart. Pray for his safety and let your peace be done. For if you hear any whisper of him, you will find him.

            I miss Don Laird, and wish him well. People can have that effect from their presence here

            Can you repost Richard’s voice so we may celebrate his thoughts and contributions?

  5. Gravity.

    The proof on consciousness, is to have two brain hemispheres functioning, and how a person sees. This ability to hold to two opposing thoughts to extrapolate a third, that willing-slaves are blind to.

    This discussion could have explored how meditation, the observing of stillness and the desire to let go from stress can catch anxiety in its origins, and the truth set you free.

    But, like all denial, it only goes to proving their proposition right to make them right. Life by association – when there is none.

    The same as Muslims who want to convince you that Muhammad split the moon in two.
    https://www.islamicstudies.info/tafheem.php?sura=54

    If it talks like a sexual, walks like a sexual and acts like a sexual, then all they want is to dominate and mount you. Whenever reason is absent – it’s place is a Koranimal.

    The same for Flat Earth.

    So I was intrigued by the question:

    “…So you agree if we are a spinning globe the oceans/waters would be forced outward, flying through the air?”

    This question has same spirit of vanity by attachment. It was loaded.

    Now, if a ball was swung by a string and the string then was cut, the ball would continue it the direction it was going and not be “forced outward.” I detected a mantra behind this question.

    But where was the source?

    Here:
    https://youtu.be/JONq8eqzQ9g (read the comments).

    Gravity acts like light waves. If you cut the sun from the Earth, it would take approximately 8 minutes for the Earth to be free from the bond. The same time a light takes to travel. And the Earth would not be going outwards, but carry on in a straight line.
    https://spaceplace.nasa.gov/gravitational-waves/en/

    (Of course, always open to sensible alternatives to things I cannot directly experience but rely on scientists to report to each other about).

    • So, there is natural enquiry, and there is the gravity of confirmation bias.

      Souls made slaves for Islam, and their right hands of raped females.
      Minds straightjacked by Communism, and to breed as animals.
      Bodies traded by Sexuals,.and freed into new skins of tattoos and snips.

      The distractions of Pain and Pleasure.

      The books of the Torah and those in the New Testament (7 Additional Books in the Catholic Bible are: Tobit, Judith, 1 and 2 Maccabees, Wisdom, Sirach, Baruch) can be robes of Identity, as much as Mein Kampf and the Little Red Book are to others. Security blankets of pride that judge unbelievers as fallen away.

      “For the Pythagoreans, math was a religious experience, and some equations were divine secrets, unfit for public eyes”
      https://listverse.com/2017/04/26/10-strange-facts-about-pythagoras-mathematician-and-cult-leader/

      Dreamstates, that make their inner child the thorn in their side.

      “No such thing as space. If it was real, they wudnt fake it. The video tech they use now to fake 0 gravity is impressive. Nasa Fails video, shows them faking space. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4-zzqW1WKZE

      The kids are crying.

      • Why water remains on a spinning Earth: It has one rotation in 24 hours.

        At the equator, the surface spins at about 1670 kilometres per hour.. Water bulges. And because the Earth’s escape velocity has to be more than 40 000 km/h, no water leaves.

        The diameter of the Earth is approximately 12,756 km. The thickness of the atmosphere is about 1000 km. Precipitated water vapour, though spinning a little faster at higher altitude, still returns as rain.

        Make the Earth spin 24 times faster (i.e. one hour equals one day) then good bye water.

        “Centrifugal force from the Earth’s spin is constantly trying to fling you off the planet, sort of like a kid on the edge of a fast merry-go-round. For now, gravity is stronger and it keeps you grounded. But if Earth were to spin faster, the centrifugal force would get a boost, says NASA astronomer Sten Odenwald.

        Currently, if you weigh about 150 pounds in the Arctic Circle, you might weigh 149 pounds at the equator.”
        https://www.popsci.com/earth-spin-faster/

  6. The person-centric Universe verses the ‘nothing to do with humans’, Universe

    Conspiracy, engenders a siege mentality; and apostasy, is a Hate Thought. The Mob, is controlled.

    Refuting muslims, Communists and Sexuals is easy, because they say and act out exactly the nonsense that they do. So criticism of their beliefs, is made to be blasphemy. Overwriting the law to not offend, is to stonewall reality. It’s fairer, the cowards say. They steal god, economics and genes. The cult of personality reigns.

    Flat Earth, can be refuted by evidence. When Flat Earth has a religious foundation, then it’s all back to the land again. A nation to measure the world in pints, feet and inches.

    The Great Reset, fulfils feelings and senses. Students control the streets. Insight and intuition not required.

    An Imam, Politician and Rainbow Person in every school to police.

    Getting what they desire for themselves:
    https://youtube.com/shorts/qMJgf7G0gw8?feature=share

    The world is flat. You are not getting off this planet

    • The thread got so skinny, I couldn’t find my own reply to you above:
      https://vladtepesblog.com/2021/12/26/invasion-of-the-holographs-and-sam-dube-speaks-with-deloris-cahill-links-2-for-december-26-2021/comment-page-1/#comment-719172

      Richard has avoided the obsessive covid chatter almost completely. Simply scrolled on by.
      Instead he’s brought geopolitical content, empty after Wrath left us…

      But Richard’s chosen a different angle, going as far as India and Singapore to get it right. Upbeat: “news” in the classic cowboy tradition.

      Black Hat vs. White Hat. The Good Guys are always seen to win – if you look at things turned inside-out and upside-down, it works.

      And you smile. You know it’s outrageous wishful thinking. Yet you still smile.

      • I think we all avoided the COVID chatter of Black Hats and White Hats, Yucki :).

        Richard has filled the breech that Wrath of Khan sadly left
        https://vladtepesblog.com/2021/03/08/dedicated-to-one-of-vlad-tepes-blogs-most-dedicated-and-observant-contributors-wrath-of-khan/

        The black and white choice of Heaven or Hell, claims that no one can escape this either-or proposition, of Carrot and Stick, directed by the bully to coerce obedience.

        It is like, ‘if you are a Flat Earth Denier you must be a Science Believer’.

        Framing of another person to support your own argument by claiming that they are the antithesis (the devil) when there is never an antithesis to a nonsense thesis. But believers will get at their ‘judge, jury and executioner’ targets anyway, as its ruthlessness tramatizes and entices others in the group to remain.

        Get upset, and they win.

        (Keep smiling, but don’t let the government cameras see they have not yet got to you!)

        • Wrath was a stern taskmaster.

          He insisted we pay attention to what the enemy actually says, not just second- or third- hand news reports (or purported ‘events of the day’).

          Sharpen our own analytical skills. Anything less is simply parroting expert opinions, bias we tend to share and writing we find entertaining. A school of Omniscient Twitterati.

          Wrath was right, of course.
          That’s why MEMRI was founded. That’s why trustworthy Mideast analysts must have working knowledge of Arabic, Turkish, Persian, and Hebrew.

          I watch the region very closely, but I get caught up in who’s bombed what where. Or the payload of the latest model drone, or F-35 diplomacy.

          But reading contemporary equivalents of Mein Kampf (featuring a variety of ethnic Untermenschen), day after day – to see each day’s news through that prism – that’s based. You don’t need more than a whiff, but it’s got to be done.

          * * *
          Richard shares an interest in geopolitics, though very different than Wrath.

          He searched for all kinds of gems to help heal the loss Wrath. Candy for Yucki.

          News of the day presented like can-do, 1950s Americana – though he had to go to India or Japan or Singapore to find it.

          It’ll be a long and tough fight, but persevere. We will win in the end, as moral and decent people always do. Good always triumphs over evil.

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