Bataclan: the victims have been tortured and mutilated? (Update: parliamentary report)

An original translation by Ava Lon

From this excellent French language website:

Mr. B. N., peace keeper. […]
We then left for the Bataclan.
Mr. O. B. When we were at the corner of the passage Saint-Pierre Amelot, while people in the Bataclan suffered horrific things, we have been very lucky.
We went back there, and the owner of the tile shop behind which we were sheltered explained that his shop was an old bank whose windows were shielded.
This protected us – I had a ballistic shield without additional plates. At the corner, we heard people moaning, but we could not go help them because we did not have the proper equipment.
Justice Georges Fenech. For the information of the Commission of Inquiry, Mr P. T., can you tell us how you learned that there had been acts of barbarism within the Bataclan: beheadings, evisceration, enucleation …? (castration)
Mr. T. P. After the police stormed the building, we were with colleagues at the passage Saint-Pierre Amelot when I saw a crying investigator who went out to throw up. He told us what he had seen. I did not know this colleague, but he was so shocked that sharing came naturally.
Alain Marsaud. Acts of torture happened on the second floor?
Mr. T. P. I think so, because I entered at the ground floor where there was no such thing, only people hit by bullets.
Alain Marsaud. To your knowledge, they were undoubtedly three? Is there not a chance for a fourth one to have escaped?
Mr. T. P. It is certain that they were at least three, but they were maybe four. The radio was broadcasting calls to the police emergency number, 17: we heard of three or four people.
Alain Marsaud. Is it impossible a fourth person was able to escape by being among the wounded that were evacuated?
Mr. T. P.  It’s not impossible. That’s why my colleagues have carried out summary pat downs of all victims, even injured, coming out through the main entrance.
Mr. S. L. We were doing a systematic summary pat downs, at least at the plexus, the base of the torso and legs.
Alain Marsaud. A fourth terrorist could have hurt himself or fled among the wounded?
Mr. T. P. Among the injured, I don’t think so.
Alain Marsaud. We only found three weapons of war.
Mr. S. L. This is part of the investigation. For our part, we don’t know anything about it.
Justice Georges Fenech. Gentlemen, thank you very much for delivering this very important testimony. The inquiry commission commands your courage and intervention.
Hearing in camera, of the night BAC officials [Brigade Anti-criminalité= Anti Crime Brigade] from the Val-de-Marne that intervened November 13, 2015: MTP, corporal, MLS, sergeant, MOB, brigadier, MNB, peacekeeper, MAD, peacekeeper, and MPT, peace keeper
Hearing in camera, on the Monday, March 21, 2016
Mr. T. P. Commissioner N entered with his driver. Then we could hear him shooting and there was an explosion. Once the targeted individual is neutralized, the first rounds are being directed at us at the side Saint Pierre Amelot. During the ten minutes that the terrorist is shooting at us, we no longer hear any other shots inside.
Justice Georges Fenech. Because the other is dead.
Mr. T. P. One of them was neutralized. The other is upstairs trying to … I tend to think that as long as I’m being shot at, it does not kill anyone else.
Pierre Lellouche. What do you mean by “trying to …”?
Justice Georges Fenech. I think some things have never been said. I think maybe we could, at this stage, clear things up.
Mr. T. P. Bodies have not been presented to families because there have been people who were beheaded there, people with their throats cut, people who have been eviscerated. There are women who have been stabbed in the genitals.
Justice Georges Fenech. All this was apparently videotaped for ISIS!
Mr. T. P. I think so. That’s what the victims have said.
The Rapporteur. These acts were committed by the two survivors. Do you know if you have hurt the one you were shooting at in St. Pierre Amelot pass?
Mr. T. P. I think so, but I’m not sure. As they blew themselves up, it’s hard to tell if he was wounded in the torso. I think I had hit him, because the shooting stopped, and the door closed. The fact that the Kalashnikov collapses and the doors close seems significant to me. Later, we talked to the civilian who made us signs in the passage Saint-Pierre Amelot: he told us we had hit the shooter and that’s why he had stopped firing.
After this time, the shots we heard inside were only very sporadic.There has been no more rounds fired. In all likelihood, a terrorist or more people were finishing their victims off. Then, I have to confess that I have only made fifteen meters [50 feet] inside the Bataclan behind the BIS. My presence was not necessary, so I left. I had seen enough.
Pierre Lellouche. Where were the people being tortured?
Mr. T. P. Upstairs.
Pierre Lellouche. This happens after the person you hurt went upstairs?
Mr. T. P. I even think that it happened before, but this is only my personal opinion. While we were fighting with a terrorist at the emergency door, another one was doing all these despicable things upstairs.
Pierre Lellouche. The video was sent?
Mr. President Georges Fenech. I understand that videos were sent.
Pierre Lellouche. We can find it out if the victims’ cell phones were recovered. Do we have them?
Mr. T. P. They blew themselves up. There were people decapitated, people with their throats slit, people who were gutted. There were pretend sexual acts on women and stabbing at the genitals. If I’m not mistaken, the eyes of some people have been gouged.
Hearing in camera, of Mr. Michel Cadot, prefect of police in Paris, Christian Sainte, director of the judicial police in Paris, Jacques Méric, director of security near the Paris area, and General Philippe Boutinaud, commander of the brigade of firemen of Paris (BSPP)
Minutes of the hearing in camera of Wednesday, March 23, 2016
The Rapporteur. Have Bataclan terrorists committed beheadings and mutilations? Was the victims’ cause of death other than by shooting or explosion? We are dealing with contradictory information – some of which were provided to us during our hearings – that must be clarified.
Justice Georges Fenech. Indeed, the Committee is troubled by this information which haven’t leaked anywhere. Thus, the father of one of the victims sent me a copy of a letter he sent to the investigating judge, which I quote in summary:
“On the causes of the death of my son A.,I was told, in the forensic institute in Paris, and with reserves given the shock I was in at that moment, that his testicles were cut off and put in his mouth, and that he was disembowelled. When I saw him behind glass, lying on a table, a white shroud covering him up to the neck, a psychologist was with me. The latter said: ‘The only presentable part of your son is his left profile.’ I noticed that he had no right eye. I mentioned it; I was informed that they had gouged his eye and crushed the right side of his face, where there was a very large hematoma that we could all see during the casketing.”
This particular testimony could corroborate the statements made by one of the BAC officials that one of the investigators vomited immediately on leaving the Bataclan after finding one decapitation and several eviscerations. Are you aware of such facts?
Michel Cadot. I had no knowledge of these facts, nor by the Forensic Institute or by the officials in question. It is obviously up to the court to assess the veracity of the investigation. Nevertheless, I realized that at the site of the attack we found no knife or other sharp device that would allow this type of mutilations. It will be easy to verify as part of the investigation. In my case, once again, I have not received any message from the Forensic Institute or the direction of guardianship of the relevant BAC that would suggest it was true [NT that there were mutilations].
Christian Sainte. I cannot jump to the conclusions at this point, given the state of the investigation, but nothing in the present state of my knowledge allows me to think that what has just been read is true. I specify, for the sake of clarity, some of the bodies found at the Bataclan were extremely mutilated by the explosions and weapons, to the point that it was sometimes difficult to reconstruct the dismembered bodies. In other words, injuries described by this father may also have been caused by automatic weapons by explosions or projections of nails and bolts.
Justice Georges Fenech. His testicles were apparently put in his mouth …
Christian Sainte. I do not have that information and if these facts had been established, I think I wouldn’t have missed such information.
Hearing in camera, Mr. François Molins, prosecutor grande instance (TGI) in Paris, Véronique Degermann, Deputy Prosecutor of the Republic to the same TGI, and Ms. Camille Hennetier, Deputy Attorney of the Republic to TGI
Minutes of the hearing in camera of Wednesday, March 30, 2016
The judge. Following the November attacks, barbaric acts were reported to the commission.
François Molins. It’s a rumor. Forensic doctors were clear: there was no act of barbarism, no use of knives. According to a witness, the testicles of a person would have been cut, but no findings have corroborated it.
Mr. Sébastien Pietrasanta, rapporteur. I command your work, Mr. Prosecutor. Your voice is heard and respected by all.
REPORT FILED ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF INQUIRY created as one the means used by the State to fight against terrorism since January 7, 2015 / PART 2: REPORTING OF HEARINGS
Rare testimonies posted online mentioned that heads were cut during the hostage-taking in the concert hall. Two weeks after the attacks, the internet users get angry and demand a government response.
Despite calls from the internet users who ask for a communicate about this rumor, the government remained silent.
“My son, who is a policeman, saw a spectacle of blood and severed heads …”
(…) One can then imagine the anxiety of relatives of the policeman. They will learn later that Marc is close to the room of the Bataclan, where the hostages are being kept. He has to monitor a bar. “I watched television until three in the morning,” continues Jeanine. “And then I just got a message from my son.” Mark only returns to his apartment the next morning. He then calls his mother. “It was reassuring to know that he was in his bed. He was tired. He said he was wearing two bulletproof vests and a helmet, and that it was very heavy. And then he told me that it was not pretty sight. His experience was horrible. He saw blood, severed heads … “An ordeal that started for him again last night, since he was back in service.
(…) Le Progrès
Testimony of a British survivor: “ISIS men with knives used them to torture their already wounded victims  by slitting their stomachs open, when they lay on the ground. “
[Ed: There are now many reports in the English media. But this is an original translation from a highly respected French counter-jihad blog]


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15 Replies to “Bataclan: the victims have been tortured and mutilated? (Update: parliamentary report)”

  1. If this report is true the government is trying to keep the facts from the public because of the uproar they would cause. They are probably more worried about their political survival rather then any backlash against the Moslems.

    • “Mr. T. P. Bodies have not been presented to families because there have been people who were beheaded there, people with their throats cut, people who have been eviscerated. There are women who have been stabbed in the genitals.”

      Taking in people from other countries can be the most dangerous thing we do.

      Western populations do not know of the disconnected minds created by totalitarian ideologies.

      The internet therefore, is good for discourse, but allowed to become citizens, our pets and neighborhood are as good as dead.

      This is because we assume the equally of rationality. But as already known, regarding our Western fatherless generation with single-mothers and socialist-schooling makes them very reliant upon the creeping powers of The State.

      A teenage Youtube poster from Singapore ridiculing Islam and Christianity was imprisoned, and I thought “must think like us.” His recent post demanded the right for child pornography and sex with babies – a blistering satire on Islam that says exactly the same thing.

      How utterly wrong I was. And luckily in my country, this lapse of judgement had not cost the ever-increasing bizarre-sex exposure and signed-permission rape that you can’t go back on.

      “Amos, has argued child-sex should be legal if they get consent.

      Yet, as everyone else knows from birth, children are programmed to seek approval; therefore child-grooming for sex is easy.

      The concept of ‘Age of Consent’, he believes is fascist as it prevents people engaging in paedophilia or pederasty with their targeted child in need of affection.

      So, my apologies with the mind of an adult for seeing irony where there was none. To witness Socialism and Islam generate their sane rationalization for child abuse. The products of parents dead from the neck up. Mommy rules this house.

      So stumbling upon a teenage youtube channel, has proved yet again that IQ only measures intellect, that can be disconnected from conscience, in an isolation room somewhere, and never the measure of intelligence.?”

      This idea then of welcoming people at face value and only treating them equally bad as they had treated you, is fundamentally flawed, (‘We worship God like you do”), because you allow them to deliver the sucker punch that may be the last thing you’ll ever see.

      Singaporean politics have been dominated by the People’s Action Party (PAP) since the 1959 general election when Lee Kuan Yew became Singapore’s first prime minister (Singapore was then a self-governing state within the British Empire). The PAP has been in government and won every General Election since then.

      The background check that wasn’t made. Singapore is the future of Communist Capitalism.

        • There are people who copy and emulate each other on YouTube.

          My suspicion remains one of trolling and made in the spirit of free speech on any subject possible.

          Certainly, it makes people think for themselves what they stand for and reason why.

          This is a good thing.

          If a conspiracy to encourage others to harm children, that is bad, but in any debate there has to be a Devil’s Advocate, someone sending up for Islam willing to let the coments fall as they fall. That is the evidence of freedom.

          • Here we go:

            “The 4 Waves Of Freedom Of Speech

            1st wave (nonexistent)

            People are ‘entitled to freedom of speech’ so long as it doesn’t break the peace, encourages other people to commit crimes, defames etc.

            People: Lee hsien loong, Singapore government, most singaporeans, communists, fascists

            2nd wave (seditious)

            It’s alright to offend (politicians, celebrities etc.) unless it concerns race or religion

            People: Most people in Europe, most pro-opposition supporters in Singapore. Most ex ‘supporters’ of Amos Yee

            3rd wave (the 1st amendment)

            It’s alright to say anything as long as it doesn’t incite violence

            People: Most people from the West. Most people who are sane. Most supporters of Amos Yee.

            4th wave(absolutist)

            You should be able to say whatever you want, even if it incites violence, and not be punished by law. Therefore if Hitler existed today, he should not be sentenced.

            People: Amos Yee

            Which wave of freedom of speech are you? :S”

            • Actually, the USA is probably closer to the 4th wave than the 3rd wave. You can say basically anything you want as long as it doesn’t incite IMMEDIATE violence; you can even say you are going to shoot the US President and still be in the clear. That was decided in a US Supreme Court case where a protester said exactly that:


              “Watts v. United States

              In the case of Watts v. United States (1969), the United States Supreme Court ruled that mere political hyperbole must be distinguished from true threats. At a DuBois Club public rally on the Washington Monument grounds, a member of the assembled group suggested that the young people present should get more education before expressing their views. The defendant, an 18-year-old, replied:

              They always holler at us to get an education. And now I have already received my draft classification as 1-A and I have got to report for my physical this Monday coming. I am not going. If they ever make me carry a rifle the first man I want to get in my sights is L. B. J.

              According to court testimony, the defendant in speaking made a gesture of sighting down the barrel of a rifle. The audience responded with laughter and applause, which the Court of Appeals would later view as potentially ominous:

              [I]t has not been unknown for laughter and applause to have sinister implications for the safety of others. History records that applause and laughter frequently greeted Hitler’s predictions of the future of the German Jews. Even earlier, the Roman holidays celebrated in the Colosseum often were punctuated by cheers and laughter when the Emperor gestured thumbs down on a fallen gladiator.[54]

              The boy was arrested and found to be in possession of cannabis, but a Court of General Sessions Judge suppressed the cannabis because he found that there had been no probable cause for the Secret Service agents to believe the defendant’s words constituted a threat to the President.[54] This did not prevent a federal court from convicting him for threatening the President. The United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit affirmed his conviction, but the Supreme Court reversed, stating, “We agree with petitioner that his only offense here was ‘a kind of very crude offensive method of stating a political opposition to the President.’ Taken in context, and regarding the expressly conditional nature of the statement and the reaction of the listeners, we do not see how it could be interpreted otherwise.” In a concurring opinion, William O. Douglas noted, “The Alien and Sedition Laws constituted one of our sorriest chapters; and I had thought we had done with them forever … Suppression of speech as an effective police measure is an old, old device, outlawed by our Constitution.”[55]

      • Perfect child said: Western populations do not know of the disconnected minds created by totalitarian ideologies

        Most westerners think the totalitarian societies have the same freedoms we have.

  2. Well, that’s just bloody AMAZING! And an “explosion” caused a victim’s testicles to shoot right off into his own mouth no less! Sheesh, what a genie act that bomb was!

  3. One day we’ll all understand this is a war brought to us by our unelected/elected leaders who should not receive the same protections on being on “our side” due to their actions.

    In regards to the Bataclan attacks, we need to quickly learn that to “negotiate” for “hostages” only prolongs the suffering of those held by the Mohammadans. The only proper response is to immediately go in all guns blazing knowing that every delayed minute means another plucked eyeball or another mutilation … because the fakery on the “hostage negotiation” from the Mohammadan POV is a time buying tactic to allow for more savagery and torture of the kafir.

    The Mohammadans, from my reading of their “sacred texts,” would be humiliated to surrender so that idea must be taken off the table.

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