UPDATE Sky News video of protest:
More video of grateful Muslims thanking British soldiers for helping protect the land they all moved to:
From The Daily Mail:
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 1:05 PM on 11th November 2010
Islamic protesters sparked fury today after they burned a model of a poppy and deliberately broke the silence at Armistice Day commemorations in central London.
As millions of Britons fell silent to remember those who have died in war, members of a group called Muslims Against Crusades clashed with police during an ’emergency demonstration’ in Kensington, west London.
As the clock struck 11am, the Islamic protesters burned a model of a poppy and chanted ‘British soldiers burn in hell’.
Shameful: Muslim protesters break the Armistice Day silence in central London today
Fanning the flames: The protesters burn a poppy while an English Defence League counter-demonstrator is led away from the scene near Hyde Park in west London today
They held banners which read ‘Islam will dominate’ and ‘Our dead are in paradise, your dead are in hell’.
The Muslims Against Crusades website includes graphic images of children wounded in warfare and the torture of detainees at Abu Ghraib.
The protest, in Exhibition Road, near Hyde Park, involved about 50 people while about another 50 counter-demonstrators had to be kept apart from the group by a line of police.
Three men were arrested at the scene, two for public order offences and one for assaulting a police officer.
Asad Ullah, of Muslims Against Crusades, said: ‘We are demonstrating because this day is a day of remembrance to remember every single fallen soldier, including those killed in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Lack of respect: Police escort Muslim protesters towards South KensingtonTube station after they began a protest in west London
Clashes: English Defence League counter-demonstrators face off against police
‘We find it disgusting that innocent people, innocent children, have been killed in an illegal and unjust war and we are demonstrating against that.
‘We want the Government to pull the troops out from these countries and to stop interfering in our affairs.’
Mr Ullah added: ‘We would like to have a protest closer to the memorial but it is difficult to get access. We want to break the silence and say, “What about the silence for others that have died?'”
An English Defence League protester is taken from the scene by a police officer today
Earlier this year, members of the group were involved in violent clashes with far-Right groups during a troop march in Barking, east London.
A series of incendiary comments were posted on a social networking website linked to the English Defence League.
Some members pledged to attend while others showered the Islamic group with abuse and criticised police for allowing the demonstration to take place.
Prime Minister David Cameron marks Remembrance Day with Brigadier David Greenwood (left) at Gloster Valley, South Korea
It is understood the event is taking place in Kensington because it is outside a protected zone around Parliament where spontaneous protests are banned.
Police were questioning people they suspected were preparing to travel to Kensington after arriving at Victoria Station.
It is thought Muslims Against Crusades is a splinter group of Islam4UK, founded by Anjem Choudary.
Elsewhere as the clock struck 11am, the nation paused to mark the anniversary of Armistice Day, when peace returned to Europe at the end of the First World War.
Wearing their poppies with pride, people joined in the two-minute silence as various commemoration services and events were held around the country.
The agreement between Germany and the Allies after four years of fighting took effect at the ‘eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month’ of 1918.
Defence Secretary Liam Fox and the Archbishop of Canterbury Dr Rowan Williams joined war heroes, service personnel, veterans, military associations and schoolchildren for a service of remembrance at the Cenotaph in Whitehall, central London.
David Cameron (4th left) at the Korean National War Memorial in Seoul along with French Finance Minister Christine Lagarde (left), Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper (2nd left) and Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard (3rd left)
Prime Minister David Cameron marks Remembrance Day at Gloster Valley, South Korea where he laid a wreath
The road was closed and crowds lined the street for the poignant ceremony and wreath-laying.
Amid grey skies and damp conditions, there was applause as Victoria and George Cross holders took their places around the monument.
David Cameron marked Remembrance Day by laying a wreath at the site of the British Army’s bloodiest battle since the end of the Second World War.
The 1st Battalion, Gloucestershire Regiment, were cut off and surrounded by vastly superior Chinese Communist forces during the Battle of the Imjin River from April 22 to 25, 1951, in the Korean War.
Running short of water and ammunition, the ‘Glorious Glosters’ held their hilltop position through a full day and a night, repelling waves of Chinese attackers.
Some 59 men died in the defence of the hill and 526 were taken prisoner – 180 of them wounded. Another 34 men died in captivity.
But their heroic stand delayed the advance of the Communist troops, preventing them from outflanking the forces of the Republic of Korea and the United Nations.
As a result, the Allied forces were able to take up positions at a defensible line further south and prevent a direct assault on capital Seoul.
Two Victoria Crosses were awarded for valour, including to the Glosters’ commander Lieutenant-Colonel James Carne, who was one of those taken prisoner.
Sombrely dressed in dark coat and tie and sporting a red poppy on his lapel, the Prime Minister was joined by the defence attache at the UK’s Seoul embassy, Brigadier David Greenwood, to lay a wreath of poppies at a memorial to the Glosters.
Mr Cameron – who is in South Korea for a summit of the G20 group of major economies – spent a few moments in silent contemplation at the memorial in what is now known by grateful Koreans as Gloster Valley.
Respect: Prime Minister David Cameron after meeting with British war veterans at a Remembrance Day ceremony at the Korean National War Memorial in Seoul today
Mr Cameron lays a wreath with British war veterans at the Korean National War Memorial in Seoul to UN troops who died in the conflict
The 29th Brigade, of which the Glosters formed part, suffered 1,091 casualties, dead, wounded or missing during the Imjin River offensive, while the Chinese casualties are thought to have reached around 10,000. A total of 1,078 UK troops died and 2,674 were wounded during the Korean War from 1950-53.
Mr Cameron later participated in a Remembrance Day ceremony at the Korean National War Memorial in Seoul.
Along with his Canadian and Australian counterparts Stephen Harper and Julia Gillard and French finance minister Christine Lagarde, the Prime Minister laid a wreath at the memorial to United Nations troops who died in the Korean War.
Mr Cameron met around 40 British veterans of the war who had come on a trip organised by the Korean Veterans Association and subsidised by the Seoul government.
Bob Huyton, 79, of Telford, Shropshire, was a 19-year-old on National Service when he served in Korea with the Royal Army Ordnance, helping transport the wounded back from the front line to Seoul.
‘It was a tough war’, he said. ‘We were caught up in two ambushes and I lost one of my best friends. I’m hoping to find his grave in the Pusan war cemetery before I go back.
‘I’ve been meaning to come back for a long time, and it’s been very emotional. You’d hardly recognise it was the same country, it’s changed so much, but all the memories come flooding back.
Lewis do you have a bet that you can make someone here lose their temper?
Oh Look…Chris’ gay partner is here to stick up for the gays! Richard how about you become a black guy and see how it feels?? I am sick to death of your racism and I really hope that one day the muslims take over and fuck the hell out of you!
Another thing Richard – I advise you to visit your nearest mental asylum! You really need help dude!
I need help, talk about projection, I wonder if your calling everyone gay is because you are attracted to other men?
Yeah I’m attracted to your hot mom! 😉
She got one hot ass! 😉 And her booba are mind blowin ! 😉
I knew the last two were coming, I would stay and talk longer but I have to get ready for the fishing trip tomorrow.
Hope you drown in the river Richard 🙂 Say hi to your mom for me. Tell her I’ll drop by one day and rock her world! 😉
I don’t think you’re a black American, Lewis. I think you’re an uneducated, fourteen-year-old Canadian Muslim, lying through his teeth, furious at the rest of the world because his own people are performing so badly compared to everybody else. I don’t think you have the courage to admit that Muslims have a problem, and you’re converting your rage into a particularly dim-witted brand of racial prejudice. Yup, that’s what I think. And what if I was gay? Do you hate gay people too?
Well you are gay Chris! I know it 😉 Saw you having anal sex with Richard 🙂
And Chris – puhlease stop your racism against blacks and muslims and whatever other culture you hate, you motherfucker! I swear I will come and whop you white ass off the the moon you shithead!
I am a very tolerent person.I understand that there is always going to be conflict between race,religion,creed and even your football team.Look at the wider picture,we are all here.Our peers like conflict,they all have shares in oil,munitions and everything that war personifies.But….I will not tolerate the treachery and disrespect shown for my forefathers protection of our country by ‘visitors’ that carry a ‘British Passport’.You shame Britain,but I think most of all,you shame yourselves and Islam.You are not worthy to walk our hallowed soil.(THINK)
oh my! These posts are getting ridiculous. You people can’t even seem to have a civilised discussion. Such a shame
It’s funny ain’t it steve? You white people go round invading other countries and then you all mope around that non-white guys are against you. For fuck’s sake, stop this bullshit and let everyone get on with their lives!
Perhaps, Jason, since you’re so much better than everybody else, you should actually write something and show us just how smart you are. Or do you just sit in the bleachers, heating up pennies with a Bic lighter and throwing them on the ice?
Lewis so what if we don’t know our father’s names?? alot of us don’t know who our father is. but at least we have an amazing social life! Lots of sex and can drink anytime we want, unlike the rest of this boring world! the white’s will always beat you blacks coz we have the money and power!!!
These stupid, ignorant and blasphemous so called extremist followers of Islam gob off about ending the Wests’ crusade against their faith yet they should do well to remember their own history (or is this conveniently forgotten?).
1. Crusade. Muslims seem to forget that they had their own, for several centuries before the Europeans launched theirs as a defense against the Islamic expansion.
2. Two years before Muhammad’s death of a fever, he launches the Tabuk Crusades, in which he led 30,000 jihadists against the Byzantine Christians. The Byzantine army never materialized. But he extracted “agreements” from northern tribes. They could enjoy the “privilege” of living under Islamic “protection” (read: not be attacked by Islam), if they paid a tax.
This is a timeline of early Muslim activity:
634-644 The Caliphate of Umar ibn al-Khattab, who is regarded as particularly brutal.
635 Muslim Crusaders besiege and conquer of Damascus.
636 Muslim Crusaders defeat Byzantines decisively at Battle of Yarmuk.
637 Muslim Crusaders conquer Iraq at the Battle of al-Qadisiyyah (some date it in 635 or 636).
638 Muslim Crusaders conquer and annex Jerusalem, taking it from the Byzantines.
638-650 Muslim Crusaders conquer Iran, except along Caspian Sea.
639-642 Muslim Crusaders conquer Egypt.
641 Muslim Crusaders control Syria and Palestine.
643-707 Muslim Crusaders conquer North Africa.644 Caliph Umar is assassinated by a Persian prisoner of war; Uthman ibn Affan is elected third Caliph, who is regarded by many Muslims as gentler than Umar.
644-650 Muslim Crusaders conquer Cyprus, Tripoli in North Africa, and establish Islamic rule in Iran, Afghanistan, and Sind.
656 Caliph Uthman is assassinated by disgruntled Muslim soldiers; Ali ibn Abi Talib, son-in-law and cousin to Muhammad, who married the prophet’s daughter Fatima through his first wife Khadija, is set up as Caliph.
656 Battle of the Camel, in which Aisha, Muhammad’s wife, leads a rebellion against Ali for not avenging Uthman’s assassination. Ali’s partisans win.
657 Battle of Siffin between Ali and Muslim governor of Jerusalem, arbitration goes against Ali
661 Murder of Ali by an extremist; Ali’s supporters acclaim his son Hasan as next Caliph, but he comes to an agreement with Muawiyyah I and retires to Medina.
661-680 the Caliphate of Muawiyyah I. He founds Umayyid dynasty and moves capital from Medina to Damascus
673-678 Arabs besiege Constantinople, capital of Byzantine Empire
680 Massacre of Hussein (Muhammad’s grandson), his family, and his supporters in Karbala, Iraq.
691 Dome of the Rock is completed in Jerusalem, only six decades after Muhammad’s death.
705 Abd al-Malik restores Umayyad rule.
710-713 Muslim Crusaders conquer the lower Indus Valley.
711-713 Muslim Crusaders conquer Spain and impose the kingdom of Andalus. This article recounts how Muslims today still grieve over their expulsion 700 years later. They seem to believe that the land belonged to them in the first place.
719 Cordova, Spain, becomes seat of Arab governorship.
732 The Muslim Crusaders are stopped at the Battle of Poitiers; that is, Franks (France) halt Arab advance.
749 The Abbasids conquer Kufah and overthrow Umayyids.
756 Foundation of Umayyid emirate in Cordova, Spain, setting up an independent kingdom from Abbasids.
762 Foundation of Baghdad
785 Foundation of the Great Mosque of Cordova
789 Rise of Idrisid emirs (Muslim Crusaders) in Morocco; foundation of Fez; Christoforos, a Muslim who converted to Christianity, is executed.
800 Autonomous Aghlabid dynasty (Muslim Crusaders) in Tunisia.
807 Caliph Harun al-Rashid orders the destruction of non-Muslim prayer houses and of the Church of Mary Magdalene in Jerusalem.
809 Aghlabids (Muslim Crusaders) conquer Sardinia, Italy.
813 Christians in Palestine are attacked; many flee the country.
831 Muslim Crusaders capture of Palermo, Italy; raids in Southern Italy.
850 Caliph al-Matawakkil orders the destruction of non-Muslim houses of prayer.
855 Revolt of the Christians of Hims (Syria)
837-901 Aghlabids (Muslim Crusaders) conquer Sicily, raid Corsica, Italy, France.
869-883 Revolt of black slaves in Iraq
909 Rise of the Fatimid Caliphate in Tunisia; these Muslim Crusaders occupy Sicily, Sardinia.
928-969 Byzantine military revival, they retake old territories, such as Cyprus (964) and Tarsus (969).
937 The Ikhshid, a particularly harsh Muslim ruler, writes to Emperor Romanus, boasting of his control over the holy places.
937 The Church of the Resurrection (known as Church of Holy Sepulcher in Latin West) is burned down by Muslims; more churches in Jerusalem are attacked .
960 Conversion of Qarakhanid Turks to Islam
966 Anti-Christian riots in Jerusalem
969 Fatimids (Muslim Crusaders) conquer Egypt and found Cairo.
c. 970 Seljuks enter conquered Islamic territories from the East.
973 Israel and southern Syria are again conquered by the Fatimids.
1003 First persecutions by al-Hakim; the Church of St. Mark in Fustat, Egypt, is destroyed.
1009 Destruction of the Church of the Resurrection by al-Hakim (see 937)
1012 Beginning of al-Hakim’s oppressive decrees against Jews and Christians
1015 Earthquake in Palestine; the dome of the Dome of the Rock collapses.
1031 Collapse of Umayyid Caliphate and establishment of 15 minor independent dynasties throughout Muslim Andalus
1048 Reconstruction of the Church of the Resurrection completed
1050 Creation of Almoravid (Muslim Crusaders) movement in Mauretania; Almoravids (also known as Murabitun) are coalition of western Saharan Berbers; followers of Islam, focusing on the Quran, the hadith, and Maliki law.
1055 Seljuk Prince Tughrul enters Baghdad, consolidation of the Seljuk Sultanate.
1055 Confiscation of property of Church of the Resurrection
1071 Battle of Manzikert, Seljuk Turks (Muslim Crusaders) defeat Byzantines and occupy much of Anatolia.
1071 Turks (Muslim Crusaders) invade Palestine.
1073 Conquest of Jerusalem by Turks (Muslim Crusaders)
1075 Seljuks (Muslim Crusaders) capture Nicea (Iznik) and make it their capital in Anatolia.
1076 Almoravids (Muslim Crusaders) (see 1050) conquer western Ghana.
1085 Toledo is taken back by Christian armies.
1086 Almoravids (Muslim Crusaders) (see 1050) send help to Andalus, Battle of Zallaca.
1090-1091 Almoravids (Muslim Crusaders) occupy all of Andalus except Saragossa and Balearic Islands.
1094 Byzantine Emperor Alexius Comnenus I asks western Christendom for help against Seljuk invasions of his territory; Seljuks are Muslim Turkish family of eastern origins; see 970.
1095 Pope Urban II preaches first Crusade; they capture Jerusalem in 1099
So it is only after all of the Islamic aggressive invasions that western Christendom launches its first Crusades.
Want to know about crusades? Ask Muslims.
I’m bored 🙁
Let’s go to WAR!! Yippeeeee! 🙂
Well Gorey, that helps alot. Thank you so much.
Ur welcome 🙂 Glad you agree 🙂
fuck these sullahs there taking over the world every single dirty ugly fucking muslim should die
allah isnt real hes not protecting shit
LEWIS-TALK ABOUT YOUR ANGRY BLACK MAN WOW
War is coming, no matter what we want, buckle in for a bumpy ride.
Richard, ummm…we are already at war no? And have always been so, despite Dubya ‘n’ Blair, no french peace accord etc. Please explain your point further.
We are in a low intensity war, what I am talking about is war like WWI or WWII but on a much more massive scale and lasting longer. This is going to be a very nasty century, and one that will probably keep the map makers busy as nations disappear and other form. The closest I can come to a historic example would be the religious wars in Germany combined with the more intense sessions during the Crusades. I have said on other blogs that I think we are in the early decades of a new Dark Age, what happens over the next few years will determine if we go deeper into the Dark Age or if we emerge to a new enlightenment. Don’t ask me my reasons for thinking these things, it would take months of typing to give all of the historical references to what I see coming.
And I am not the only one that sees the war coming.
Richard. Go look out your window. See all the blue? Now think a bit more about that.
One difference between the Crusade days and now is that back then, they couldn’t just decide to win, as they could now. They didn’t have the option of turning old Saladin into a glowing afterthought, or sinking the Muslim Navy that was blockading the Mediterranean and impoverishing the Europeans. Also, in World War Two, the Allies couldn’t just decide that enough was enough and just win the thing. In other words, back then the threat was real. Now it’s all self-imposed. Now we won’t allow ourselves to win because we’re so tied up by the enemy’s clever psychological warfare techniques and the braying of our own leftist traitors, that we are afraid to fight back. But now, unlike then, if we ever get truly worried about our future existence, we have it in our power to make all the Muslims go away. I hate to say such a thing, but there it is. So, there may be big trouble coming, but I doubt it will be as bad as some of the past disasters, for us, anyway. Unless, of course, we keep purposely making the decision to allow ourselves to be defeated. It we keep doing that, all is truly lost, of course.
You are right about our lack of willingness to win, however nuclear weapons aren’t really military weapons, they are political weapons. If you see any professionals war game any scenario they refuse to use nukes until the very last moment. And to a very large extent they aren’t really needed, the war would have been over if the military had been turned loose and told to win the war, rather then win hearts and minds in a nation building process. Personally I don’t see the US or Europe using nukes in the coming war, I do see possible nuclear exchanges but not from or involving Europe.
The only people who are ready to use nuclear weapons are those who haven’t studied war or history, one of the things people have to look at is are they personally and as a nation willing to accept the consequences of having used nukes. Not just the internal reaction but the international reaction, no nation that is not living in mud huts is totally self sufficient, we all need international trade and contacts. Nuclear weapons are very nasty and are hard to deny, what is more likely to be used in the next few years is bio weapons, something like small pox or another highly contagious and deadly germ or virus. History shows that when a “super” weapons they are used in one war and not in the next, poison or war gases were used in WWI but not WWII because they like nuclear weapons are political weapons. They are difficult to use in any tactical situation, and before any western politician is ready to destroy entire cities the war will have to been large scale with massive causalities. Causalities on the order of a quarter of a million or better in the military alone.
Everyone talks about the West using nuclear weapons, but how do you use them on al Qaida? My opinion would be Mecca but if we used them what would the world reaction be? And I am not talking about just the reaction in Europe and the US but South America, the Orient, Russia, Eastern Europe? We don’t live and fight in a vacuum, it takes time for the majority of the people to be willing to accept the use of WMDs. This is one reason I think any action like that will be bio weapons, they are easier to deny.
And as for the idea that we can bomb them into submission, you can bomb them into the stone age, but you can’t make them submit and admit they have lost until some scared kid with a knife on the end of his rifle digs them out of their holes. Bombing alone isn’t enough, this was the idea behind the heavy bomber before WWII, people back then thought major land warfare would never happen again. A lot of people are saying the same thing again, and once again history is going to prove them wrong.
That is amazing!!! Those glorious Muslims warriors shall also burn teh dirty, filthy garbage soldiers that disrupted Muslim states and displaced millions in Palestine. I am happy to seethe police realize who the true criminals are and arrested those white trash garbage.
Face it people, the world blongs to Allah and his followers. You Zionist and white trash garbage deserve ovens and jail.
Those warriors are taking care of the trash in UK and we take care of it in Canada.
Fight on.
Assalamu Alaikum
Well Afarin. You certainly display a healthy ignorance your own muslim history. Arabs INVADED Palestine and forced the Jews to accept Islam. The crusaders took it back around 1095. And you talk about disruption!
I can see the on coming storm, the white man has all the power and money.
If you poke him hard enough then he will smite and destroy his enemies with great vengeance and furious anger.
If the Muslims want a war they can not win then go ahead prod the bear.
So, if some Muslims are happy to burn the poppy as a form of demonstration, can they really complain if some British people burn copies of the Koran as a counter demonstration?
WHITE = WHORES, HARASSERS, INCEST, TRASH, EVIL 🙂
Gorey Kutey
Too bad the actual facts do not support your clever little post. But don’t let that stop you. Do carry on posting that. It helps to wake up the people who actually do things and generate wealth.
I wonder if the left and the Moslems realize just how much their trolls do to damage their side? They prove which side wants a reasoned debate and which side is out to sling mud and destroy their opponents. Come one trolls do your thing, you are only helping us.
Wow Gorey. How long did you work on that little number eh? Go on. Have another beer, smoke another fag and calm down. After all, the benefit office and betting shop will be open soon.
Lewis & Gory Kutey…
Thank you so much for making my point for me. By such do you define yourselves and all of the rest of the dregs of the human genetic pool. Go now, get yourselves a Darwin Award and by so doing give the rest us of an opportunity to try to lift our species out of the primordial mud.
Gorey Kutey:
WHITE = WISE, HANDSOME, INTELLIGENT, TENACIOUS, ENLIGHTENED. How about doing one for Zoroastrians? Say, did you get that smart as a result of having parents who are related to each other? I hear you folks are big on that. That’s Gory Cutie, by the way. Not only is that meaningless and offensive, you couldn’t even spell it right. You couldn’t even spell Gory Cutie right. Christ! And what does that mean? A pretty girl with blood and guts all over her? Is that the clever name that you thought up for yourself? That’s what that means in English. Do you live in a tree? You are sub-human. You fill me with disgust. Ah, I don’t know why I’m getting mad, but at a certain point, real stupidity starts to get to me. At a certain point it becomes a real insult to the human race, and it just gets to me. We’re supposed to be better than that. I can’t stand it when people celebrate idiocy.
do you know wat i hope all those fucking muslims are deported,we are too leanient, and lewis as for your comment your just as racst for calling us white,im proud to be white and english…..and i think its disgusting at the fact we cant even celebrate st georges day and wave an english flag nd be proud because it offends other religions do u know what kiss my ass, they come over here build mosques so there fore it shows we respect your religion yet you cant honour us our 2 minutes silence to remember all the soliders that fight for today to give u your tomorrow….and ALLAH will never dominate us, AND YOU SAY OUR FLAG OFFENDS YOU YET YOUR HAPPY TO SPONGE OFF OUR GOVERNMENT FOR BENEFITS and live here if you love your country that much why not move back,i’ll tell u why u wont because u couldnt get away with half of what you do here so ther for if u live in our country you should respect our laws and our FLAG an what it means…..how would u feel if we went and burnt ur koran an disrespected your country u would hate it,so i dont see what gives u the right to the equivilent here….if you hate us that much you know were the airport is!!!!
we are all humans living the best life we can and those who say whites are racist are racist themselves there is good and bad in every race. so all those who hate this country ,please go back to your own country . why stay in a country that you feel is against you .it also goes to show what type of people you are the way you speak about other people , i am white english and i have lots of black people as friends . so the truth to be known you are more racist than me
WOOOOOOAHHh HAHAHA GO LEWIS
The worst aspect of the minute demonstration ( there were barely a dozen protesting ) was that it led to the formation of the English Defence League