15 Replies to “Brad Johnson update on the Wuhan Flu. February 6, 2020”
I very much like Brad’s approach to analysis. He is a great asset. Thanks Eeyore.
Great photo of parliament, btw. Looks perfectly centered to me.
I take my time looking at the photos, very impressive. I name them lol. Two Roads Diverged in a Yellow Wood, Dark and Stormy, Many Shades of Grey, BRRRR. Thank you for the beauty you have captured.
This abuses the meaning of the word “pandemic,” reserved for when multiple far-flung areas have similarly large degrees of infection.
I’d like to see more useful stats than the common ones of infection/death. A break-down of risk factors would be more informative: age, smoker, urban lungs, health-care worker, textile-worker, teacher, athlete, dormitory-dweller, income, etc. I wonder if any agency breaks things down so that it is more evident who bears risks and can possibly reduce them. Right now, all we know is that the biggest risk factor is being around someone in or recently from Wuhan!
Measles on a plane puts people at risk for 5 rows, per the following, so there are droplet-borne illnesses that appear more contagious than Wuhan Flu. http://www.kidsdr.com/measles-exposure-airplane
Are there any optimistic pieces on how well various healthcare systems will be able to cope and plan for this outbreak? The US does a great job on TB and leprosy control, both bacterial illnesses, though. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/how-armadillos-can-spread-leprosy-180954440/ https://www.cajuncookingrecipes.com/wildgamerecipes/wildgamerecipes_armadillorecipes.htm
history of America’s mainland Leprosarium in Louisiana, retired in 1999 https://www.hrsa.gov/hansens-disease/history.html https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2015/05/when-the-last-patient-dies/394163/ on the less-travelled side of the Hawaiian island of Molokai
Chinese megacities like Wuhan are command-economy monstrosities: manic urbanization driven by production quotas. The people are regarded as a labor variable that’s expendable.
The public health infrastructure reflects that casual disregard. It’s a teeming, filthy mess.
He is hinting at the Social Credit system being used to determine who gets treatment and who is allowed to die, a logical step for the CCP.
For his predictions to work out the CCP would have to already have a vaccine against the flu, which in turn means a deliberate release. If he is right we will know before the middle of the year if not sooner.
If the CCP wanted to infect people, they could have done so when they were spraying fog to clean the streets. Think of all the things they could have done if this were deliberate.
Yes – “If he is right we will know before the middle of the year if not sooner.”
meaning I don’t think this was deliberate
Neither do I, nor do the epidemiologists with whom I associate.
I don’t know if it was deliberate or accidental, I firmly believe that this was from one of the two bio labs in Wuhan but don’t know accident or deliberate. If it was deliberate there would be several purposes:
1) reduce excess poulation, especially the excess combat age men.
2) Aimed at Hong Kong to stop the protests.
3) Aimed at Taiwan to let the Mainland take over Taiwan.
4) Aimed at the neighbors in the South China Sea to weaken them to the point they can’t resist the Chinese take over of that region.
Reasons why it wasn’t deliberate:
1) it started in Wuhan close to a bio lab.
2) It started while the African Swine Flu is causing a massive food shortage.
3) The delay in the infection in other nations combined with the small number of infections.
4) The massive economic damage it is doing to the Chinese economy. China was in a recession, China was in a Trade War, companies were already leaving their machinery and money in China and moving their factories out of Chin a to nations that were as greedy.
There are the reasons for a deliberate and the reasons for an accidental release.
… Interesting comment in this article about the HIV DNA segments in the virus that shouldn’t be there , leading to more speculation that the virus was engineered in the Wuhan level 4 lab and got out.
Rykehaven
February 7, 2020 at 12:19 am
It’s unusual for a 34 year-old to die of a viral infection alone, especially under modern hospital care, unless there are underlying or pre-existing conditions; secondary infections, old age, diabetes, etc.
An associate of mine in the medical industry is in a tizzy about the virus, and not for the normal hyped-up media reasons.
The virus has been sequenced, and the word is that the Chinese virus has “HIV segments” which shouldn’t be there – Coronavirus and HIV are two different families – and as the research is making the rounds, nobody can explain it as having occurred naturally. Maybe it can – anything is “possible” – but “It’s like a human with a Chimp’s tail. It’s a chimera” (although technically the virus isn’t actually a “live” organism).
Major mutations in the medical world are notoriously fatal – and they all don’t get passed onto the next generation, as in “absolutely all”. And virus mutations like this one in so few generations and “out of the blue” are unheard of in nature. Much as a human doesn’t just magically grow a Chimp’s tail (and survive to pass on to the next generation, let alone become the dominant breed), so it is that this Coronavirus shouldn’t have been able to just “take on” binding proteins of HIV in a few generations.
…word is…“HIV segments” which shouldn’t be there
Too many words, too little knowledge, ZERO discernment.
HUNDREDS of other known viruses had sequences that matched at the same (low) level as that discovered – !! wow !! – by the Indian pseudo-scientist. He plugged into the NCBI database and took his pick of sexy diagnoses.
I greatly respect, and enjoy Brad Johnson’s ongoing dialog on current events, but I have to take issue on his thoughts on how the virus is effecting China’s economy. Of course he is right that even given the worse case, the number of dead and infected is still relatively insignificant in a population of 1.4 billion. However, you need to take into account that up to 70 million city dwellers are under quarantine, and the effect that this will have on the world’s economy. I have heard accounts that China’s steel manufacturing has been completely shut down, as workers are shut into their homes. This will have an effect on supply lines throughout the world, in everything from construction, to automobiles, an even razor blades. Transportation is largely shut down. Are crops rotting in the fields? It goes far beyond the primary effects of the virus on individuals.
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I very much like Brad’s approach to analysis. He is a great asset. Thanks Eeyore.
Great photo of parliament, btw. Looks perfectly centered to me.
I take my time looking at the photos, very impressive. I name them lol. Two Roads Diverged in a Yellow Wood, Dark and Stormy, Many Shades of Grey, BRRRR. Thank you for the beauty you have captured.
“General Chi’s Nasty Wuhan Soup: A Recipe for BioWar?”
By J.R. Nyquist – January 30, 2020
https://jrnyquist.blog/2020/01/30/general-chis-nasty-wuhan-soup-a-recipe-for-biowar/
If Brad is right, add a zero to the stats:
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/wed-rather-die-home-chinese-citizens-rebel-against-mandatory-quarantine-lockdonw
This abuses the meaning of the word “pandemic,” reserved for when multiple far-flung areas have similarly large degrees of infection.
I’d like to see more useful stats than the common ones of infection/death. A break-down of risk factors would be more informative: age, smoker, urban lungs, health-care worker, textile-worker, teacher, athlete, dormitory-dweller, income, etc. I wonder if any agency breaks things down so that it is more evident who bears risks and can possibly reduce them. Right now, all we know is that the biggest risk factor is being around someone in or recently from Wuhan!
Measles on a plane puts people at risk for 5 rows, per the following, so there are droplet-borne illnesses that appear more contagious than Wuhan Flu. http://www.kidsdr.com/measles-exposure-airplane
Are there any optimistic pieces on how well various healthcare systems will be able to cope and plan for this outbreak? The US does a great job on TB and leprosy control, both bacterial illnesses, though. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/how-armadillos-can-spread-leprosy-180954440/
https://www.cajuncookingrecipes.com/wildgamerecipes/wildgamerecipes_armadillorecipes.htm
history of America’s mainland Leprosarium in Louisiana, retired in 1999 https://www.hrsa.gov/hansens-disease/history.html
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2015/05/when-the-last-patient-dies/394163/ on the less-travelled side of the Hawaiian island of Molokai
It’s still too early for answers to most of your questions, Malca.
Check this map for what’s happening where:
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
Chinese megacities like Wuhan are command-economy monstrosities: manic urbanization driven by production quotas. The people are regarded as a labor variable that’s expendable.
The public health infrastructure reflects that casual disregard. It’s a teeming, filthy mess.
It’s useful to distinguish between the fatality rate and the mortality rate:
https://www.caixinglobal.com/2020-02-06/questions-persist-over-coronavirus-fatality-rate-101512406.html
He is hinting at the Social Credit system being used to determine who gets treatment and who is allowed to die, a logical step for the CCP.
For his predictions to work out the CCP would have to already have a vaccine against the flu, which in turn means a deliberate release. If he is right we will know before the middle of the year if not sooner.
If the CCP wanted to infect people, they could have done so when they were spraying fog to clean the streets. Think of all the things they could have done if this were deliberate.
Yes – “If he is right we will know before the middle of the year if not sooner.”
meaning I don’t think this was deliberate
Neither do I, nor do the epidemiologists with whom I associate.
I don’t know if it was deliberate or accidental, I firmly believe that this was from one of the two bio labs in Wuhan but don’t know accident or deliberate. If it was deliberate there would be several purposes:
1) reduce excess poulation, especially the excess combat age men.
2) Aimed at Hong Kong to stop the protests.
3) Aimed at Taiwan to let the Mainland take over Taiwan.
4) Aimed at the neighbors in the South China Sea to weaken them to the point they can’t resist the Chinese take over of that region.
Reasons why it wasn’t deliberate:
1) it started in Wuhan close to a bio lab.
2) It started while the African Swine Flu is causing a massive food shortage.
3) The delay in the infection in other nations combined with the small number of infections.
4) The massive economic damage it is doing to the Chinese economy. China was in a recession, China was in a Trade War, companies were already leaving their machinery and money in China and moving their factories out of Chin a to nations that were as greedy.
There are the reasons for a deliberate and the reasons for an accidental release.
Sorry for off topic comment about Trump bringing the US Secret Service back under the Treasury Department, but it would be an interesting interview with Brad Johnson to hear his take on it.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/02/06/important-secretary-mnuchin-interview-with-maria-bartiromo/#more-182933
Wuhan Flu
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Li Wenliang, the doctor who initially blew the whistle on Coronavirus is being reported as having died.
Update: Or not.
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/index.php/2020/02/06/its-probably-nothing-41/
… Interesting comment in this article about the HIV DNA segments in the virus that shouldn’t be there , leading to more speculation that the virus was engineered in the Wuhan level 4 lab and got out.
Rykehaven
February 7, 2020 at 12:19 am
It’s unusual for a 34 year-old to die of a viral infection alone, especially under modern hospital care, unless there are underlying or pre-existing conditions; secondary infections, old age, diabetes, etc.
An associate of mine in the medical industry is in a tizzy about the virus, and not for the normal hyped-up media reasons.
The virus has been sequenced, and the word is that the Chinese virus has “HIV segments” which shouldn’t be there – Coronavirus and HIV are two different families – and as the research is making the rounds, nobody can explain it as having occurred naturally. Maybe it can – anything is “possible” – but “It’s like a human with a Chimp’s tail. It’s a chimera” (although technically the virus isn’t actually a “live” organism).
Major mutations in the medical world are notoriously fatal – and they all don’t get passed onto the next generation, as in “absolutely all”. And virus mutations like this one in so few generations and “out of the blue” are unheard of in nature. Much as a human doesn’t just magically grow a Chimp’s tail (and survive to pass on to the next generation, let alone become the dominant breed), so it is that this Coronavirus shouldn’t have been able to just “take on” binding proteins of HIV in a few generations.
…word is…“HIV segments” which shouldn’t be there
Too many words, too little knowledge, ZERO discernment.
HUNDREDS of other known viruses had sequences that matched at the same (low) level as that discovered – !! wow !! – by the Indian pseudo-scientist. He plugged into the NCBI database and took his pick of sexy diagnoses.
I greatly respect, and enjoy Brad Johnson’s ongoing dialog on current events, but I have to take issue on his thoughts on how the virus is effecting China’s economy. Of course he is right that even given the worse case, the number of dead and infected is still relatively insignificant in a population of 1.4 billion. However, you need to take into account that up to 70 million city dwellers are under quarantine, and the effect that this will have on the world’s economy. I have heard accounts that China’s steel manufacturing has been completely shut down, as workers are shut into their homes. This will have an effect on supply lines throughout the world, in everything from construction, to automobiles, an even razor blades. Transportation is largely shut down. Are crops rotting in the fields? It goes far beyond the primary effects of the virus on individuals.