On second viewing of this video, I would preface it by saying that there is a little too much emphasis on race over ideology in it. I recognize and accept to a degree that there may be some muddiness and even some genuine crossover in these issues. But the struggle is an ideological one as was the fight against Nazism or communism, all intra-race fights while the fight against Shinto had racial components, though Japanese people who were not Shinto were not a threat. So despite the racial demography, race was still not the problem as we see in our relations with Japan post WW2. The Chinese however see it differently.
Even so there is much in this video that recommends it.
Post view notes #2. It has been well pointed out in the comments that some of the visuals in this video are distinctly Nazi art works and that there may be a subtle yet deliberate introduction of Nazi themes in this video which would explain the shift from ideological issues to racial ones. I agree with the observations and reasoning of AY in the comments and recommend all read the thread. There is a real danger that as momentum grows among the general population as they recognize that islam is not a race but a pernicious ideology, that other evil ideologies will capitalize on that momentum even as they capitalized on islamic destruction of Western civilization as the Nazis did in Hitler’s time and subsequently turn the issue back to race both real and imagined.
Another video that’s for keeps:
“Why does the White male cower in the wake of the violent jihadist? It is because they worship the god of liberalism”.
with all respect Eyore – this video is citing German Nazi art, and clearly anti-Semitic.
muslims are burning flags of all Western countries except Israel, come on. 🙂
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AY Let me look at it again. When I listened to it this morning i felt there was slightly too much emphasis on genetic race but some of it was justified. I didn’t watch it as I was doing other things. My bad. I will check it again as soon as I have a chance and thank you for the heads up.
Islam is not a race and neither are the many organizations and people in the world suffering and fighting against Islamic imperialism. The same that is happening in the West, has happened and is happening in Asia, Middle East and Africa. It is not about white versus brown. It is about Dar -al-Harb and Dar al-Islam.
protecting own race is justified – I don’t think there is problem with narrative.
muslim and anti-white campaigns are feeding each other, as they share the same goal – to revolutionary overwhelm the West as race, territory, and culture.
however, judging by their illustration, one can see that they are definitely happy to throw Israel and Jews under islamic bus. I suspect they are the chaps who push demagogical claims that Hitler somehow “defended” Europe when started extermnating Jews, that Jews are islamic enablers, etc. it is rare case but there are such types, and if there, it is incurable.
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Arun – unfortunately the fierce anti-white hysteria in the West is the reality.
partly I believe because it serves well the islamic supremacist projects, so oil sheks pay for it.
also it is the reality, that the crowd of hundred black Kikuyu men from Kenya are not the same as the crowd of hundred white Norwegian men.
among high intellectuals, there is no point in any racism as there is little difference between co-workers and colleagues.
racism starts when large numbers are involved, genetic differences are massive and undeniable and used both as reason and an excuse for attacking and enslaving “the other”.
there is no ambiguity in question which race is “better” – the one that is less agressive, capable of playing non zero sum game, prefers trade to war, trust to deception, and capable of showing empathy to the weak and to stranger.
and else another reality is that sometimes some good people become reluctant racists, otherwise they simply don’t survive.
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Any anti-Semitism that appears in this video, well I apologise if I missed it. I think the overall message in it is good. I really didn’t notice the Nazi art, but then again I’m not familiar with Nazi art.
Best get off this bus before being thrown under it.
Besides, white converts to zombie, especially stupid white breeders, are too scarey to dismiss.
More interesting are the Buddhists in Burma right now. They seem to be on the right track.
Softly Bob – this is only one image at 2:20-2:30.
I am also not specialist in Nazi art but my feeling is that it is Arno Breker:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mjgGJNRn28
good art actually. but definitely bad ideology.
it is ironic that Prokofiev’s music is used to illustrate it, very expressive.
in the end, the “subhuman” Russians have rammed Third Reich dreams to dust.
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SoftlyBob- you’re in for a treat if you spend an afternoon looking at old Nazi propaganda flicks. They’re brilliant! Music, iconic art, production values. Original, literally spellbinding. There’s great early Stalin-era stuff as well. Particularly during the Collectivization of the Ukraine period.
AY- thanks for the clip of all the yummy naked people!
yucki – yeah, it is like Wagner’s music, beautiful and poisonous.
I think counterjihad should avoid Nazi imagery, as classical art is more than enough for any subject.
if someone uses Nazi art – it is intentional, it is crypto-coded political statement.
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What am I missing? Where is the Nazi art please?
Eeyore – 2:20-2:30, definitely Arno Breker’s statue.
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“here is no ambiguity in question which race is “better” – the one that is less agressive, capable of playing non zero sum game, prefers trade to war, trust to deception, and capable of showing empathy to the weak and to stranger.”
Those are not racial characteristics though, and is not unique to one race. A white Muslim is no different than the brown or black or other Muslim. They follow the aggression of Islam. On this site is an article of a white Brit convert threatening to kill one of the royals. There are many non-whites such as non-Muslim Asians (of which there are many types) who show those same positive characteristics listed above. Look at the Buddhists for one. And there have been many times over the centuries when non-Muslim whites did not show those positive characteristics listed above.
So while there may be an additional element of anti-white attitudes in Europe that is entwined with Islamic aggression i and expansion with the help of the far left in Europe, this conflict with supremacist Islam is global and transcends race, country, language, religion.
Yucki:
It is interesting how the Burmese Buddhists say they want to be like the EDL while in fact they are the only effective defense force against Islam in the world today. The rest of us should seek to be like the Burmese Buddhists.
Arun – I like what You wrote but again, we live in real world. where the number and intensity of both muslim on non-muslim, and “non-white on white” attacks, – robberies, rape of women and female children, murder of vulnerable and elderly – is all increased to the level of racial war.
yes You are right – it isn’t Chinese and Japanese who attack whites in their native countries. simple facts on crime statistics tell us – some ethnic/racial groups are more agressive, cruel and racist than the other.
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One is tempted to mention the Hutu Vs. the Watusi in Rwanda cause they can teach the Ph.D course on racism and genocide. Tribal wars in Africa and Amer-Indian wars basically are the gold standard on genocide on the basis of race alone. Preemptive slaughter by Inuit and Amer-indians is one example locally.
Leaving aside some details of the video – like the Arno Breker statue in 2:20 – let’s focus on the more general question:
Are we critizing Islam from a purely liberal point of view – estimating “only” the Western freedoms and the superiority of its values: “rationalism, self-criticism, the disinterested search for truth, equality before the law, freedom of conscience and expression, human rights, liberal democracy” (as comprised by Ibn Warraq in “Why the West is Best”) – or are we critizing Islam because immigration is destroying the substance of our own people. The “Western values” are a product of our own tradition, they are born out of the specific circumstances and conditions that were set in the history of our nations, they are a product of fights, of sacrifices, blood and tears of our ancestors. The liberal rights cannot be guaranteed if this substance is destroyed on which they grow. And the substance on which they grow are our nations. If we confine to enjoying only the rights and liberties that our societies grant us, without supporting the nation itself, we’ll find these rights and liberties destroyed within the next few decades – by other societies like the “Umma”, which don’t admit themselves the luxury of questioning their own identity.
I find this a tantalizing question: The decision is between a purely liberal and a conservative way of criticizing Islam. I am not decided myself, I see myself somewhere in between. But there is one thing I’ll never do: to defame the “purely conservative” fellows as racists or even Nazis.
The difference between the racial issues faced by Allies in Japan is that the Japanese weren’t filling Europe with 10s of millions of immigrants and putting down roots. There wasn’t constant, everyday proximity. The coming conflict will have a strong racial element, and the fact that Islam itself is an ideology won’t change that. There are many people who still do identify racially, even if only implicitly right now (not as many whites as non-whites but that proportional gap will close as time goes on). Many of the low-class Muslim immigrants explicitly make it racial, there have been many videos posted here over the years of Islamic immigrants abusing infidels with explicitly racial, not religious, ethnic slurs. Terms like “German” and “Swede” and “Frank” are used by these gangs as stand-in for “white” (awhile back there were Jihadists in the UK calling for attacks against “whites” specifically IIRC).
Islam, like Communism before it (especially Maoism), is a religious ideology with specific appeal to the underman, to the teeming masses of poor, ignorant people with no culture and double-digit IQ. These people happen to be mostly on a spectrum of brown-black and they identify their enemies as both “infidels” in general as well as the white western Civilization (and they do still define that specifically as white even if the people of the West are uncomfortable with that). Maoism in the third world took on many of the racialist characteristics of National Socialism, and this isn’t so much a function of the ideology itself as a natural occurrence because people identify foremost with their own race and tribe, and the idea of a broad-front, multicultural Europe that includes everyone equally except for Muslims is just as much a modern ideological construct as Islam and Communism were; the ancient European tribalisms and ethnic identities will always remain there and ever since the 19th century those identities have been tied up with the idea of “whiteness” (explicitly; that idea has always been implicit).
Any attempt to extinguish the racial mutterings will just result in progress for Islam and Marxism; indeed, the Marxist attempts to extinguish white identities because they are “racist” is exactly what got us into this mess in the first place. It’s quite possible, and I would say necessary, for whites to be proudly and openly and unapologetically “racialist” in the sense of accepting their heritage and race and being proud of it, without needing to be anti-Jewish or anything else like that.
When the time comes and the SHTF, this conflict will be heavily racial, at the narrowest, fractal, neighbourhood-neighbourhood, street-street level. Nothing can prevent that;it can be mitigated and channeled/redirected in appropriate manners, but theres no way any predetermined ideology (and that’s what the Counter-Jihad movement is selling) can prevent or do away with those racial attitudes when 60 years of Cultural Marxism haven’t succeeded there.
P.S. I know the girl who made this video personally, she is most definitely “pro-white” and has a strong racial identity, as I do. She isn’t a “Nazi”, she (like I) simply finds appealing certain Northern European aesthetics; those aesthetics have been lauded by European culture for thousands of years, and just because Hitler and the Nazis found them appealing is no reason to demonize them; indeed, to do so is to demonize the European. It’s similar to the Swastika: it’s a symbol that is thousands of years old and that was used and considered sacred or mythic by every culture and race on the planet throughout history. It’s time to reclaim these symbols and aesthetics from knuckle-dragging barbarians who would sully them. I will not allow a bunch of Nazi and Neo-Nazi gremlins to set the frame of what is acceptable, and I will not allow my biological and cultural heritage to be continually demonized because of them. I will embrace the Nordic and Hellenic aesthetic and I will venerate the Swastika in all it’s ancient Germanic, Roman, Nahuatl, Buddhist, Avestan and Vedic forms.
“AY says:
June 2, 2013 at 5:34 pm
Eeyore – 2:20-2:30, definitely Arno Breker’s statue.”
If anything, it resembles the Roman Salute, which, in the context of this particular video, was not alluding to Nazism.
Eeyore I caught the same thing you did, the video was focused on race and not ideology, yes it is a subtle white supremacist video,
“Why does the White male cower in the wake of the violent jihadist? It is because they worship the god of liberalism”
Why do the non-muslim females cower and wait for some “white man” to protect them.
We are all in this together. In Europe as many boys are beaten as women, less are raped it is true, but many have been hospitalized or killed – all racist attacks.
Or is she refering to the “White males” in the government, then I have to agree – those in power are on the wrong side.
Why are their wives and daughters not puting their foot down and telling them to bloodey well open their eyes?
Why are women in Britain not fighting back, not in ones and twos, but 100 women in a shariah zone carrying signs saying UK LAW ONLY! Or NO BURKAS might make a point.
The White Males I know don’t cower in fear of the violent jihad, in fact they are the ones who enlist to fight the jihad.