A comment turned post. What happens next? Can we win this thing?

Richard, a reader and contributor to Vlad posted a comment to the site that I thought was worthy of the best answer I could come up with after a hard day’s blogging. I thought I would make it, and my answer to it, into a post. Hopefully it will stimulate more discussion as I think in some ways, these ideas get to the heart of the matter.

  1. Richard
    Posted November 16, 2010 at 9:54 pm | 

    Armed clashes are coming, they are the only way for the Jews and Europeans to defend themselves against the Moslems, the problem is how are the Courts in Europe going to react to the armed citizens fighting back?

  2. Eeyore
    Posted November 16, 2010 at 11:52 pm |


    Courts have always been tougher on people who take the law into their own hands and as a rule, rightfully so. However, when the government, more accurately in this case, the state disenfranchises the public, when the state no longer represents the culture or the people it is likely that they will have to selectively enforce only where they can.

    We already see this with Islam. The courts are finding some people guilty of a crime when they are not afraid of what group that person or people represent, while not even charging people clearly and publicly visible of the exact same crimes if the state is afraid of that group.

    So it begins. But where does it go? Chances are, the nature of jurisprudence will become more and more arbitrary and irrational especially in nations where the law abiding citizens have been disarmed while certain ethnic groups and organized crime is well armed. We have seen clearly that the police unions in some nations, most notably England, have made sure that the police look after their own safety now, way before saving the indigenous people of Europe (story on Vlad). This of course, all without so much as a pay cut. So the public, now disarmed, seeing themselves forced to pay high taxes to pay for police who actively work against them overall, while ignoring the often illegal immigrant violent crime against them, will seek alternatives like the EDL. The state will flex its muscle in every way it can from disinformation campaigns through state mouth pieces like the BBC and in a more detached way, the CBC (The CBC is very much not representing the current conservative government in Canada) and through selective enforcement against them.

    Most governments would rather see an orderly surrender than a violent defence. We saw that in WW2 and we are seeing it now. If people like you and me, manage to convince the people to stand up and fight back and if those people manage to get governments or form governments that fight back and eventually win, the left after a short time will claim it was the far right who caused this problem with Islam and immigration, and it was the left who rose up and won the day. Eventually, we will call Choudery and others of his ilk. “far Right Wing” and it will all start again.

    I don’t know if this spoke to your comment or not, but it sure felt good to write it.


About Eeyore

Canadian artist and counter-jihad and freedom of speech activist as well as devout Schrödinger's catholic

7 Replies to “A comment turned post. What happens next? Can we win this thing?”

  1. Thank you, I think that in the long run you are right, in the short run they will try and stop it, but as you note there will be a break down of the fair and equal justice we have been brought up to expect. However the breakdown of justice and to an extent the entire society is one of the reasons I think we are in the beginning decades of a Dark Age, I know people laugh when I say that but the entire Western Civilization is starting to go the way of the Roman Empire. We will have to be very lucky not to have all of civilization fall.

  2. I had written about entering into a new Dark Age but with the added “bonus” this time , that it will be under the aegis of Islam. I wrote this in the eighties at the time of the Salman Rushdie affair.

    We most definitely are heading for a civil war. The police, specially in England, only do “force protection”, i.e., protecting themselves. They have also taken to live in “police communities”, as they do not feel safe living in the community they are ostensibly paid to protect.

    So we cant rely on the police. And even if they decide to side with the EDL ort ordinary folks, the government can call on the EuroPolice, who do not have any links with English people.

    What then? I think it is the Armed forces that are the key here. The Armed forces primary allegiance is to the Crown. They know the situation in Islamic countries from first hand experience. It is here that the battle will lie. If the Armed forces do what they are sworn to do ie defend the realm, the story ends.

  3. I think the sniper in Malmö was an example of that to a certain extent… In Sweden, giving the “yoots” the finger is seen a crime against humanity, but it’s all fine with Swedish politicians if those very same “yoots” burn down schools and attack first responders when they show up to put out fires started by the same dirtbags. Law-abiding people have indeed no one to turn to in those cases.

    And, while the sniper’s actions, by targeting random mahoundians, didn’t have much of a law-enforcement effect, I think they could be regarded more as some sort of taste-of-their-own-medicine kind of thing… Both non-mahoundian immigrants and native Swedes are afraid to walk around in their own cities because of muslims, and the sniper made the latter experience a bit of the hell they make everyone else go through.

  4. I agree that Islam will be the force behind the new dark age but they will be helped by the left who has already done so much to destroy education in the West.

    Yes I think the solution in Europe and in the US is the military, will they live up to their oaths, that is the thrust behind the group the “Oath Keepers” they are out reminding the military, police and firefighters that their oaths are to protect the Constitution. I don’t know about the big cities but the small towns in fly over country has almost all of the police and Guard units siding with the TEA party. This gives all of us hope but I realize that the currently peaceful civil war may turn violent with the left starting the violence. Ted Ralls a far left cartoonist called for violent protests and terror attacks on a PBS interview, and ex or not so ex terrorists Dorn and company have been teaching for over a decade, how many students have they radicalized? I am sure that Europe has their own radical left professors who are teaching Marx and revolution rather then the subjects they were hired to teach.

  5. “When in the course of Human Events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.”

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, THAT ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends [whether by acts of tyranny or by the omission of justice], it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”

    [emphasis and brackets mine. The rest belongs to Thomas Jefferson.]

  6. He was a good man, I hope violent revolution and civil war aren’t necessary, but I am afraid they are, and are necessary everywhere.

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