Muslims and Westerners: The Psychological Differences

An excellent piece from the New English Review

by Nicolai Sennels (May 2010)

Introduction by Nancy Kobrin, author of The Banality of Suicide Terrorism: The Naked Truth About the Psychology of Islamic Suicide Bombing[1]

When I first read about Nicolai Sennels’ work concerning therapy, which he had conducted with criminal Muslims in Denmark, I knew that it would be groundbreaking. I hope that you the reader will listen closely to what he has to say.
I also had the opportunity to conduct prison interviews of Muslim detainees, which were not interrogations. Minneapolis has the largest diaspora of Somali Muslims outside of Mogadishu, and there was an overload in the county jail. I was trying to decide if I wanted to draw up a research project. Pressured for time and with too many other responsibilities plus receiving a death threat during one of the interviews, I decided against it.
Like Sennels, I came away with a similar sense that Western law enforcement and the general public did not understand why there was so much crime in the Muslim population. And why there has been this problem of jail house converts to Islam who then become radicalized through contact with other criminal Muslims during incarceration.
Islam is the perfect religion to give justification for those who feel under attack and to maintain the eternal “victim” fantasy. Islam is also “higher” than Christianity because it comes last in co-opting the revelations of Sinai and the New Testament. What a perfect receptacle for projecting hatred. Islam incites, encourages and permits hatred of the Jew and Jihad. It’s perfect for a fragile personality that has the need to hate and the need to have an enemy. There are billions of people out there who share those sentiments and that profile. As an underdog religion, Islam provides great mass appeal, which even Eric Hoffer, the author of the True Believer, noted in 1951. It should come as no surprise that its numbers are growing. If one has a grievance, Islam will take care of it.
Sennels adeptly outlines the key problems of why Muslims are not able to integrate into Western culture. What he doesn’t say, I shall name. We are dealing with nothing more than paranoia. Sennels stresses that the West must set boundaries because otherwise they will kill you. This kind of rage is malignant borderline behavior as in serial killing. We must come to understand such politically incorrect observations as Sennels does in order to connect the dots concerning criminal Muslims even though it is brutal.

Happy well-adjusted children do not become suicide bombers nor do they become criminals. Let us choose to know what we are dealing with rather than bury our heads in sand out of terror. Let us meet the challenge straight on as Sennels has. If the Swedes had intellectual fortitude, Nicolai Sennels, the Dane, should be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for standing up and proclaiming that the “Emperor Has No Clothes.” But then again, that is a Danish tale and the Swedes are left with Ingmar Bergman’s drama. Need I say more?

[1]Dr. Nancy Kobrin is a psychoanalyst with a clinical specialty in trauma. Her Ph.D. is in romance and semitic languages, specializing in Aljamía, Old Spanish in Arabic script. She did a two volume dissertation on Ahadith Musa. She began to study the perpetrators of terrorist attacks in the early 80s as the truck bombs went off in Lebanon. Residing in Minnesota for many years she was asked to teach Radical Islam to the Sheriff’s Deputies of Hennepin County. She is an expert on the Minnesota Somali diaspora and a graduate of the Human Terrain System program at Leavenworth Kansas and was slated to go into Helmand Province. Her new book is The Banality of Suicide Terrorism: The Naked Truth About the Psychology of Islamic Suicide Bombing.

February 27th 2008. On a cold and windy Wednesday (for cyclists like myself), I took a deep breath, grabbed the microphone and did something that changed my life. In front of the Copenhagen Mayor’s Integration and Social Services Office there were gathered several journalists, a faithful Muslim musician from the famous MTV-band ‘Outlandish,’ dozens of Imams and Muslim spokesmen and a couple of hundred social workers with Muslim and Danish backgrounds. I began to say what everybody already knew, but, what nobody either wanted or dared to say: that those who are referred to as foreign criminals, religious extremists, or terrorists in the making and who are the cause of lawless parallel societies (what the conference “Diversity and Safety in the City” was about) are all Muslim. I argued that we should stop talking about “criminal foreigners” and start using the more precise term, “criminal Muslims.” As a psychologist, having had more than a hundred Muslim clients, I told them that politicians and professional social workers need to understand the cultural and religious backgrounds of criminal foreigners. That is, if we want to come up with, at least, somewhat effective and targeted plans on how to reduce the social unrest, anti-democratic religious movements, the violent and anti-social forces among foreigners.
I was met with strong criticism from all sides and no support at all!

Just as most soldiers in the front lines die in the first attack, many of those who attacked political correctness have experienced negative professional or social consequences. I was no exception. The Mayor of Social Services was clear.  I should either refrain from using stigmatizing expressions or find myself another job. Actually I was trying to stop the so-called stigmatization of all the non-Muslim immigrants by focusing on the one group that creates all the problems. But you can’t fight City Hall. Our biggest national newspapers and radio news programs got hold of the story and the mayor was strongly criticized by the media experts on free speech and by the Danish blog-sphere. For about a month there was not a day when my name was not in one or more newspapers and the fighters for free speech took another round. I was no longer an anonymous psychologist. My name was known by everybody who read newspapers in Denmark and especially Islam-critical blogs on the internet put me in the spotlight.

Instead of keeping my mouth shut, I decided to write a book about my experiences with Muslims based on hundreds of therapy sessions. The whole circus that had happened concerning my case had already shown the necessity of breaking the taboos around criminal Muslims. Further, a serious discussion about the relationship between the Muslim culture and criminal, antisocial behavior is, indeed, very much needed. I managed to negotiate a deal that gave me four months severance pay. I am probably the first psychologist in Copenhagen who was offered $20,000 dollars for quitting his job voluntarily. I guess they just wanted to get rid of me, ASAP. I found a well-paying job as a Military psychologist doing psychological screening of soldiers returning from the war in Afghanistan. I also started writing my book, in which I describe a psychological profile of the Muslim culture. The title of the book is Among Criminal Muslims: A Psychologist’s Experiences from the Copenhagen Municipality. (Free Press Society, 2009).

After having consulted with 150 young Muslim clients in therapy and 100 Danish clients (who, on average, shared the same age and social background as their Muslim inmates), my findings were that the Muslims’ cultural and religious experiences played a central role in their psychological development and criminal behavior. “Criminal foreigners” is not just a generalizing and imprecise term. It is unfair to non-Muslim foreigners and generally misleading.
Discussing psychological characteristics of the Muslim culture is important. Denmark has foreigners from all over the world and according to official statistics from Danmarks Statistik all non-Muslim groups of immigrants are less criminal than the ethnic Danes. Even after adjusting, according to educational and economic levels, all Muslim groups are more criminal than any other ethnic group. Seven out of 10, in the youth prison where I worked, were Muslim.
The book was reviewed in several magazines and newspapers and it kickstarted the Danish debate on the relationship between cultural background and criminal behavior. The Danish magazine for professional psychologists reviewed it:
….Among Criminal Muslims is a provocative eye opener, convincing and well founded with many concrete examples.
The professional magazine for teachers of teenagers wrote:
Sennels’ reflections and critical discussion concerning our efforts towards young criminals deserves to be widely known.
Our biggest national news paper Jyllands-Posten, that printed the Mohammad cartoons, wrote:
The book is an original piece of pioneer work by focusing on the responsibility of the individual and involving the impact of religion in the shaping of the young person’s identity.
This is a summary of some of the things that I discovered.
Muslim culture has a very different view of anger and in many ways opposite to what we experience here in the West.

Expressions of anger and threats are probably the quickest way to lose one’s face in Western culture. In discussions, those who lose their temper have automatically lost, and I guess most people have observed the feeling of shame and loss of social status following expressions of aggression at one’s work place or at home. In the Muslim culture, aggressive behavior, especially threats, are generally seen to be accepted, and even expected as a way of handling conflicts and social discrepancies. If a Muslim does not respond in a threatening way to insults or social irritation, he, not “she” (Muslim women are, mostly, expected to be humble and to not show power) is seen as weak, as someone who cannot be depended upon and loses face.

In the eyes of most Westerners it looks immature and childish when people try to use threatening behavior, to mark their dislikes. A Danish saying goes “…Only small dogs bark. Big dogs do not have to.” That saying is deeply rooted in our cultural psychology as a guideline for civilized social behavior. To us, aggressive behavior is a clear sign of weakness. It is a sign of not being in control of oneself and lacking ability to handle a situation. We see peoples’ ability to remain calm as self confidence, allowing them to create a constructive dialogue. Their knowledge of facts, use of common sense and ability in producing valid arguments is seen as a sign of strength.

The Islamic expression of “holy anger” is therefore completely contradictory to any Western understanding. Those two words in the same sentence sound contradictory to us. The terror-threatening and violent reaction of Muslims to the Danish Mohammed cartoons showing their prophet as a man willing to use violence to spread his message, is seen from our Western eyes as ironic. Muslims’ aggressive reaction to a picture showing their prophet as aggressive, completely confirms the truth of the statement made by Kurt Westergaard in his satiric drawing.

This cultural difference is exceedingly important when dealing with Muslim regimes and organizations. Our way of handling political disagreement goes through diplomatic dialogue, and calls on Muslim leaders to use compassion, compromise and common sense. This peaceful approach is seen by Muslims as an expression of weakness and lack of courage. Thus avoiding the risks of a real fight is seen by them as weakness; when experienced in Muslim culture, it is an invitation to exploitation.

Locus of control
There is another strong difference between the people of Western and Muslim cultures; their locus of control. Locus of control is a psychological term describing whether people experience their life influenced mainly, by internal or external factors. It is clear from a psychological point of view that Westerners feel that their lives are mainly influenced by inner forces – ourselves. This is reflected in our points of view, our ways of handling our emotions, our ways of thinking, our ways of relating to people around us, our motivation, our surplus, and our way of communicating. These internal factors are what guide our lives and determine if we feel good and self confident or not. Every Western library has several meters of self help books. Every kiosk has dozens of magazines for both women and men that tell us how to create happier and more successful lives for ourselves. Our phone books have columns of addresses for psychologists, coaches and therapists. All these things are aimed at helping us to help ourselves create the life that we want. Some might argue that all this introspectiveness is too much and that just doing what is useful for oneself and others here-and-now would be more constructive, but this is how our culture is.

All these things do not exist in Muslim culture and countries. The very little psychiatry and psychology that is taught, in only a few universities in the Muslim world, is imported from the West.  It is mostly taught by teachers educated at Western universities and does not have roots in the Muslim culture.

But Muslims have something else. They have strict external rules, traditions and laws for human behavior. They have a God that decides their life’s course. “Inshallah” follows every statement about future plans; if God wants it to happen. They have powerful Muslim clerics who set the directions for their community every Friday. These clerics dictate political views, child rearing behavior, and how or whether to integrate in Western societies.

The locus of control is central to our understanding of problems and their solutions. If we are raised in a culture where we learn that “…I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul,” as William Ernest Henley wrote in his famous poem Invictus in 1875; we will, in case of personal problems, look at ourselves and ask: “…What did I do wrong?” and “…What can I do to change the situation?” People who have been taught throughout their entire lives that outer rules and traditions are more important than individual freedom and self reflection, will ask: “Who did this to me?” and “Who has to do something for me?”

Thus, the locus of control is central to the individual’s understanding of freedom and responsibility. Even though our Christian based societies may, in certain situations, give too much emphasis on feelings of guilt; it also strengthens the individual’s sense of being able to take responsibility for, and change one’s own life. In societies shaped under Islamic and Qu’ranic influence there may be fewer feelings of guilt and thus, more freedom to demand the surroundings to adapt to one’s own wishes and desires. This may include demands to wear Islamic costumes which can result in more Muslim demands for Islamization of our Western societies, but it is also a powerful source of victim mentality and leads to endless demands on one’s surroundings. In a very concrete way this cultural tendency, shows itself in therapy, as a lack of remorse. The standard answer from violent Muslims was always: “…It is his own fault that I beat him up. He provoked me.” Such excuses show that people experience their own reactions as caused by external factors and not by their own emotions, motivation and free will. Even though one’s own feelings, when experiencing an insult, can be moderated by one’s own point of view, this kind of self reflection does not happen to the same degree among Muslims as it does among Westerners. It only takes one person to beat up another: the guy who is doing the hitting. It also only takes one person to feel insulted. Being beaten and feeling insulted are thus strictly different social events. The latter depends on ones self, while the former is solely caused by outer circumstances. Unfortunately, this fact is not considered in Muslim culture and apparently also not by the supporters of laws on hate speech, racism and defamation.

The difference in mentality is clearly stated by the old Indian proverb:

You can walk around softly everywhere by putting on a pair of shoes, or you can demand that the whole Earth becomes covered by soft leather.
It is a question of locus of control.

Self reflection vs. consequence
I have seen with Muslims, this cultural difference, concerning locus of control. It has been the source of countless failed social and integration projects. Besides the great support from our welfare systems, our state departments offer a variety of entertainment and guidance to criminal Muslim youngsters hoping that the thankfulness and trust that normally appears from such generosity will create a good relationship, respect and willingness to cooperate. But when the program of social events and appointments with patient social workers ends and the demands of mature behavior appear, the “mutual respect” often evaporates.

Westerners feel that it is “our standards” that determine real consequences for people. We like to think, that if they get some guidance and a second chance most people will learn from that guidance and make use of their chance to improve. We are afraid to set strict boundaries because we do not like people to feel punished, even though our motivation is to stop people from destroying their own lives and the lives of others.

What we have to realize is that we need to be flexible to think outside of our own cultural boxes. I would like to quote from our Danish philosopher, Søren Kierkegaard from his book Either/Or: A Fragment of Life:
“If one truly wants to help a person, we should first of all start by finding where he is. This is the secret to the art of helping. Anyone who cannot do this is arrogant.”
European, Australian and North American politicians have spent trillions of Euros and Dollars in trying to avoid the apparently unavoidable; the failed integration of Muslims. Money has been spent on voluntary offers that our badly integrated foreigners can use if they want. They do sometimes try, but it very seldom works. What we have to understand is that we are dealing with people who grew up in cultures with an “outer – locus of control.” Self reflection and self responsibility have much less importance to them.

During my years as a social worker, and later as a psychologist for antisocial individuals, I have realized that the only, reasonable way forward is to follow this three step procedure:

1) Provide guidance and help. If this does not work, then,
2) Establish Boundaries and limitations. If this does not work, then set
3) Consequences.
What I say here might seem to be more political than psychological. However, it is my extensive experience in giving therapy to Muslims that has led me to make this statement: We should not permit the destruction of our cities by lawless parallel societies, with groups of roaming criminal Muslims overloading of our welfare system and the growing justified fear that non-Muslims have of violence. The consequences should be so strict that it would be preferable for any anti-social Muslim to go back to a Muslim country, where they can understand, and can be understood by their own culture.
Our mistake is that we start with too long a permissive leash and as the antisocial youngsters make mistakes we slowly restrict their freedom. During this process these young people, very often, manage to destroy their own lives with bad habits, bad friends and bad criminal records. My own experience, and that of many colleagues, is that the only functional way, is to start with a shorter leash. Then, as difficult people show that they can handle increasing amounts of freedom you can extend their options.
This way of starting with a short leash is actually very normal in our Western way of raising children. We start with strict expectations concerning school, doing homework, and behaving properly. Then, as children get older and more mature they will receive more freedom from their parents. When they are 21 years old they are expected to have learned enough to be able to handle life and are free to choose whatever education, partner, religion, life style that they want.
In Muslim culture it is different – especially for the boys. They have lots of freedom in their early lives and as they get older more and more cultural/religious restrictions and expectations appear to support the family structure. By the time they are 20 years old, their parents often have already chosen their future wives or husbands. Other choices are also less free: the expectation, for instance, to either achieve high status in education or to work in the little family run shop, to support the family’s reputation by attending Friday prayers in the local Mosque. The “education pyramid” is standing upside down in the West; less freedom in the beginning, more self responsibility as one gets older. In Muslim culture the pyramid stands with its wide end down; few expectations to follow civilized behavior as a boy, and less freedom as one grows more competent, to support one’s own family and religion.

Muslim identity
From my experiences with the 150 Muslims I have had in therapy, only a handful felt themselves to be Danish. Most saw themselves as Somalis, Turks, Moroccans, Pakistanis, and Iraqis who now live in Denmark. Almost none of them saw themselves as an integrated part of the Danish society. They felt alienated and in opposition to Danes and the Danish society. They did not feel at home here.

This was a real shock to me. Many of my Muslim clients were second or even third generation immigrants, but, still they did not feel Danish. Actually it seemed that many of them were even more religious and hateful towards non-Muslims than their first generation immigrant parents. It was clear to me that they saw themselves as quite different and even better than non-Muslims. Young Danes, who showed an interest in Islam, immediately received positive attention from even the non-practicing Muslims. So did the more hardcore Muslims. The power circles always appear around the more devout Muslims, fanatic, and powerful. The most popular among the Muslims were the true Islamists. The general picture of such an individual is a male with well trimmed beard, elegant glasses, arrogant attitude, fine manners and clothing, the Qu’ran lying on their bed along with C.D.’s of Qu’ran readings. Typically, they learn a handful of conspiracy theories “proving” that the West, especially the US and the few million Jews left on this Earth, are the cause of all the problems in the Muslim world.

I did not keep statistics of any kind, but my experiences clearly reflect several research projects on Muslim identity in Europe. A French survey in Le Figaro showed that only 14 percent of the country’s estimated five million Muslims see themselves as “more French than Muslim.” Research made by the German Ministry of Interior shows that only 12 percent of Muslims living in Germany see themselves as more German than Muslim. A Danish survey published by the pro-Muslim pro-democratic organization Democratic Muslims led by the Danish PM and Muslim Naser Khader showed that only 14 percent of Muslims living in Denmark could identify themselves as “Democratic and Danish.” Naser Khader by the way also reviewed my book:

The professional expertise that Nicolai Sennels has, whatever party he may belong to, is exceptional and with Nicolai Sennels’ clear practical examples throughout the book, the reader comes infinitely closer to understanding some of the integration problems. The book should be required reading for all school teachers, social workers and municipalities.
Since Khader himself is a Muslim and even published a book about Muslim culture (Honor and Shame) this is a real compliment to my psychological conclusions.
Being a Muslim clearly overrules whatever national identity one has. Samuel P. Huntington – author of The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of the World Order – described a “U” analogy. My findings are very close to those of Huntington. The tops of the two “towers” of the “U” are where Muslims feel “belonging to the Umma” (the world wide Muslim community), and “belonging to the tribe” (sticking together with other Muslims in the same geographical area). At the bottom of the “U” is national identity. For Westerners it is the opposite, our “U” stands upside down.  Our feeling of obligation to the country where we live is stronger than our religion or group.

If integration just consists of learning the language and finding a job, it is not so difficult. But if integration also includes developing mental habits of equally respecting non-Muslims it is simply impossible for most Muslims. They see themselves as special, will always try to live together, create their own Muslim/Islamic parallel societies, feel separated and have less respect towards non-Muslims. True integration doesn’t have to, necessarily, imply religious conversion. However, for Muslims it certainly presupposes cultural conversion. Clearly, very few Muslims have the will, social freedom and strength of personality to go through such a psychologically demanding process.

So, this is THE question. Will integration of Muslims happen, satisfactorily, to the extent necessary? If you think yes, then on what basis do you make the assumption? If no, then what will you expect the consequences to be?

Honor is a central concept in the Muslim culture. Many Danish newspapers experienced mass rage from Muslims, when they published and re-published the Danish Mohammed cartoons. They have realized that Muslims are very easily offended.
What kind of honor needs to be protected by threats of terror and boycotts? Is this really honor?  Maybe if seen through the glasses of a culture based on a book written 1400 years ago. However, when seen from the perspective of modern Western psychology, it surely is not. From our perspective such behavior is closer to being dishonorable.
Having to constantly keep up one’s appearances, becoming insecure and reacting aggressively when criticized is the result of low self esteem. Unfortunately the Muslim culture tells its men that criticism must be taken completely personally and met with childish reactions.
True self confidence would allow the individual the ability to think or say: “Ok. You have your own opinion about me or my religion. I have another opinion, and as I trust myself, I will not let my view of myself, or my central values, be disturbed by you.” Knowing one’s own strengths and weaknesses and accepting them is the core and basis of good self confidence.
If you had ever spent time in a Muslim community you experience this very clearly. You would find yourself constantly trying not to offend anyone and you’d treat everybody like a rotten egg. Jokes, irony and, especially, self-irony is as good as non-existent. It creates a superficial social environment where unhealthy hierarchies appear everywhere because nobody dares to, for instance, point out the weaknesses of childish men and make fun of the powerful. There is an old Danish fairytale about a little boy that points out the nakedness of the King; “He has no clothes on!!” embarrassing the proud King wearing his non-existent magic clothes, which are only visible to “good people” (actually, the King was just naked – because the tailor had cheated him!). Such a story could never have been written in a Muslim culture.
Many young Muslims become assailants. This is not just because of the Muslim cultural acceptance of aggression, but also because the Muslim honor mentality makes them into fragile, insecure men. Instead of being flexible and humorous they become stiff and develop fragile, glass-like, narcissistic personalities.
Unfortunately, most journalists and media people use the term “honor” when describing cases of violence where the offender makes excuses for himself by stating that his honor was offended. Since the concept of honor is completely integrated in the social rules of Muslim culture, it is seen to be justifiable when honor is threatened. This extends to beating or killing women who want to claim such basic human rights as to choose, for themselves, their own sexual partners. By using this term, as used by the offender, the media automatically takes the perspective of a clearly psychopathic and narcissistic excuse for treating other people badly. Instead, we should take our own Western culture as a basis when describing such crimes. Terms like “family execution,” “childish jealousy,” “control maniac” or “insecure” would be much closer to our cultural understanding of such behavior.

Consequences of failed integration?

The World Economic Forum published a report Islam and the West: Annual Report on the State of Dialogue 2008 in which they show the results of a survey conducted in 12 non-Muslim and 12 Muslim countries. The last point in the report concerned the question: “Do you think violent conflict between the Muslim and Western worlds can be avoided?” A majority of all 24 countries think that this conflict can be avoided. However, this is not the same as believing that such peaceful development will actually occur. Overwhelmingly, 22 countries out of 24, in the survey expected that the “interaction between the Muslim and Western World is getting worse.”
This survey clearly showed that while there is widespread hope for a peaceful outcome between the tensions of Islam and the West, people are seemingly very pessimistic.

Things are not going in the direction of peace.

Personally, my own conclusions match those of the survey. I believe that a violent conflict can be avoided. However, the chances of achieving that are getting slimmer and slimmer every month. We passed the point of no return years ago when such a conflict could have been avoided without taking drastic measures. Draconian measures may have to include shutting down Muslim immigration; demanding reform of Islamic organizations and leaders in the West; tightening the thumb screws on integration; becoming less dependent on oil in the Middle East; providing incentives to extremely overpopulated, impoverished countries to have less children; creating an alternative to the UN exclusively for democratic countries; cutting the EU’s ability to force European countries to receive more Muslim immigrants and refugees; and perhaps even sending Muslims who proved themselves unable to adjust to our Western secular laws back to their countries of origin.
Such drastic measures are probably necessary. However, our politicians have decided to give the “long leash” first, then slowly and with much hesitation, to shorten it as things get worse and worse.  With such politicians the Islamists can lean back and enjoy the show. The destruction of the “perverted,” free, non-Islamic West will happen by itself.
Since the Muslim world is already here – in thousands of Muslim ghettoes in Europe, Australia and North America – the possibility that violent conflict will happen in Western cities all over the world is very great.
We need to understand the Muslim culture much better if we want to be able to stop such a catastrophe. We need to understand that it is not possible to integrate masses of Muslims into our Western societies. We need to understand that our non-confrontational Western ways of handling conflicts make us look weak and vulnerable to Muslim leaders. We need to understand that Muslim culture is much stronger and more determined than our guilt-ridden, self-excusing Western culture. We need to understand that Muslims will only feel at home in a Muslim culture and this is why their religious demands for Islamization of the West will never end.
The moment when a popular Islamic cleric declares a Muslim area as Islamic (such declarations are the tradition of Islam, and are happening all over the world – in China, Thailand, ex-Yugoslavia, Russia, Africa etc.) and orders his followers to attack all non-Islamic authorities entering the area, we will have civil wars. No State can tolerate such an attack on its authority and will have to stop it from happening and stop it from growing. These “no go” self-governing areas are already full of violent criminals, weapons and Islamic extremists. They will probably not give up either their guns or themselves to the authorities voluntarily. Such Islamic declarations have already happened on an unofficial level. All Western European countries have such “no go” areas where policemen and authorities are met with threats and flying stones upon entering; all while Islamic authorities such as Imams and homegrown Sharia courts freely rule these “no go” areas, creating Muslim ghettoes.
After having heard the stories from Muslims themselves about their culture, religion, home countries, Muslim ghettoes, their views on non-Muslims, democracy, women and freedom, I have no hope that we can avoid “blood, sweat and tears” during this conflict. It will take many idealistic women and men many years before we reach a point where we can be sure that our freedom-loving culture will win such a conflict. As it stands now, such victory is not at all certain. I hope that many brave people will stand up for what we all believe in, and be mindful of how easily it can be lost. They could write letters to their newspapers, study the Qu’ran and the crime statistics (the only two sources you need to convince yourself that Muslim immigration is a very bad idea). Then they could present their opinions in a confident manner when conversation turns to the subject of Islam and Muslim immigration at lunch, work and at family dinners. A popular movement composed of average citizens standing up against the immature and psychologically unhealthy culture of Islam is the way and the goal. Nothing is more important than that.
The result of the “Diversity, and Safety in the City” conference on February 27, 2008 was a so-called “Catalogue of Ideas.” The Catalogue had more than 118 ideas concerning what the media, the police, the state, the politicians and the Danes could to do improve integration. There were virtually no ideas about what foreigners themselves can do to improve integration.
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12 Replies to “Muslims and Westerners: The Psychological Differences”

  1. This man is incredible. As a person with a complete lack of selfcontrol, eating too much and bursting out in anger tantrums i know how important it is to come from a culture where selfcontrol and selfknowledge are valued.

  2. An excellent eye opener and should be read by any professional dealing with the Muslim immigrant community. As in many situations she also points out the fallacy of political correctness when used to avoid a specific problem only makes thing worse through denial of the truth and facts. Political Correctness if not dealt with will in the long run cause us great harm. The truth is mostly known but many fools refuse to see or acknowledge it when it is right in front of them.

  3. @arrt

    I run the whole gamut of protomuslim behaviour: For example, i look down at woman and could never accept them as equals, i have a tendency to only respect figures of authority and i find it extreme uncomfortable that there isn’t a single good definition of life and reality.

    Personally i am someone who doesn’t doubt and doesn’t convert so if that applies to the Muslims then the only thing able to convert them away from Islam would be something louder and powerfull then Islam (fascism, or communism)

  4. @Ahcim

    I do not understand people who want some “higher power” (be it man or god) to lead their life.
    I’m not an anarchist and appreciate people that try to organize society in a democratic way ….. but I only accept them by democratic law as “authority”.
    I cherish my independent mind. 🙂

    I experience women as intellectually equal as long as they use their own mind as a beacon.

    Everybody that blindly links his destiny to another power, society or person is a ‘slave’ in my eyes.

  5. Interesting ideas, and he’s right about the threat of Islam I feel. However he tip toes around the general disaster that Third World immigration has caused. Here in the uk, the black community, while being no danger to the West suck up rescources by living in ghettos, and shooting each other at the drop of a hat, or is it a .45? We have to have special police force in London just to try and stop blacks shooting each other. These blacks if pushed would probably describe themselves as Christian.
    As I say, not a threat to Western Democracy, just a drain.

    While Islam is the major threat, it’s flourishing in the West, like some hideous tapeworm, is the direct and inevitable result of Third World immigration, and the pandering to the many immigrants who refuse to integrate.
    Imagine sampling bacteria at random, most will not harm you, some will make you feel queasy, but sooner or later you’re going to ingest something deadly: Islam.

  6. The description of a Muslim aggressor as blaming the victim for provoking him is typical of criminal thinking. We have it in our civilization, also. I’ve experienced it as a crime victim. And many abused wives experience it when, after a beating, the husband says, “Look what you made me do!”
    How do we as a society get the gumption to stand up to the Muslims? One way is to now start to educate everyone about Political Correctness: how when and where it started, and its goals. It was foisted on our western countries by the left wing for a purpose, and it was accepted blindly by everyone without any questions.
    I know when I first felt its power in 1980 as it was introduced at the University of California where I was working. has a video entitled: “The history of political correctness.”
    Start by watching that. Then resolve to start telling the truth, and acting on it.

  7. Just a thought, we in the modern Western civilizations for the last 200+ years attempted to bring modernity the the so-called developing or third world , it did not go to well for a host of reasons, now the Liberals in the west, you know them as ‘bleeding hearts’ out of some sort of naive guilt think it’s the west’s mission to save the world, not so those who do not wish to assimilate and follow the basic rules of western society ( things like providing for oneself and being civil) must vacate, they are just too much of a drain on all of our resources, I am sick of paying for those who make it a generational habit of living on the dole.

  8. Being more prone to criminality may also point to the mental retardation effects of inbreeding. Muslims are the world’s number one in the inbreeding stakes. It is estimated that muslims inbreed to about 55 per cent over all and in some cases such as in pakistan up to 70 per cent are inbred by marrying their first cousins. The effects of this are seen in the large muslim prison population in the UK. However, on the plus side since not all muslims are retarded one does come across some pretty smart ones. This correlates well in the UK with the Asian rich list which is dominated by Indians. Of the top twenty position Indians are in fifteen positions but muslims make up a worthy five positions of this list and are therefore capable of intelligent business choices that are possible only with a high degree of intelligence. This smarts is manifested in other ways to. They know how to manipulate politicians and then by their dumness too in not quite being able to detonate a bomb for jihad (though they got lucky on 7/7 as everyone was asleep). An interesting mix of idiocy, criminality and smarts. I am sure every ethnic group has this mix it just varies from group to group and even varies according to historical periods. The muslims are on the wrong side of the mix by and large and will remain like that due to effects of inbreeding on their intelligence levels and their arab desert religion on their morality which is low indeed. My own country Iran is now a classic case of mainly idiots led by the lead idiot. Arabs you conquered us, circumcised us, converted us and inbred us. We are your slaves for ever!

  9. Hmm, I’m a Muslim and I wasn’t angered by this article. I guess I’ve just proved this entire article all wrong.
    To bring a scienitifc approach on this issue, 150 out of 60 million Muslims in the West (as of 2001) as a sample size, let alone 100 out of 1 billion Westerners (all of which happen to be Danes) is a very bias approach upon a statistical analysis which furthermore relates to the sampling and stratification of psycological trends amongst different groups, is implausible as hard evidence.
    Furthermore a question of identity is not only restricted to the tenants of one’s own belief, that notion is absurd, consider political currents, communal economics and as this article has proven, marginalisation.
    The Muhammad cartoons did not offend me either, however it did shed light upon the fact that a blatant visual and verbal assualt on a community was left untouched by the justice system, be it Danish or European. I am a strong opponent of censorship, however a great proponent of justice.
    I guess by reading some of the early comments, it seems as though the Westerners are adopting this ‘malign Muslim psychology’, whilst Muslims are progressive, adopting the ways of their Western Muslim brothers.

  10. “The Muhammad cartoons did not offend me either, however it did shed light upon the fact that a blatant visual and verbal assualt on a community was left untouched by the justice system, be it Danish or European.”

    How exactly should the European justice system have handled drawings that some don’t like? In fact, the Europeans didnt reproduce the cartoons at all at first, which they certainly should have, and in Canada some were taken to human rights commissions for breaking what is actually sharia law, and not the laws of free nations at all.

  11. I have a dream, Tony…
    by Oliver van Braan on Friday, 12 November 2010 at 11:57
    -Eric: have you seen the video? With the Muslims kneeling in the main streets of Paris and blocking traffic?
    -Tony: I have linked the video in my website, I watched it naturally and I was simply dismayed! Don’t the politicians know that first is first! That means the western order with its seperation of state, religion and judiciary must have precedence and be first, as well as the western customs. Furthermore the Muslims MUST behave and they must pray in their mosques and NOT in the streets. Crazy!
    I have found on Facebook one remark of Geert Wilders: “Let me tell you first, that Islam is not a religion. Islam is a totalitarian political ideology. Islam hearts lies at the Koran and the Koran is a book that calls for hatred, that calls for violence, for murder, for terrorism, for war and submission. I think Islam is sort of communism, I mean it does not allow any other way of thinking as what is written in Quran, and Sharia law is the way to behave for ALL.
    But, and this is my personal view, there might be appearing cracks in the Islam’ Empire. The empire of Islam is actualy the longest lasting empire ever, not even Roman empire lasted so long, and the Soviet empire lasted only 70 years. But there are first signs of the cracks appearing in the walls of this empire. Notably in Iran. The Iranian people hate Islam and want to bring it down and they are on the way to do so. It’s possible the Ajatollahs and their regime will fall down within the next 5 years and a democratic Iran will be established, with its religion apart from the state and with the civilian law which will replace Sharia law. This will be first serious overwinning over Islam and the beginning of the fall of the Arabs’ Islamic empire! The complete dissolution of the empire of Islam will last, of course much longer, perhaps another 50 or 100 years but the overwinning in Iran will be absolutely historic. Imagine that the Iranians were unable to do anything against Islam and had to succumb to it for over 2000 years and now they might push it aside just within the next 5- 10 years. It is just impressive, even more than the falling of the Soviet empire.
    Below what I have called “the first crack in the wall”:
    Criticism within Iran against execution of Sakineh Ashtiani-Mohammadi:
    – Eric: Yes, nearly everybody is scared to say something about it. Still many people put their heads in the ground. Another threat are the Chinese. They bought Greece and are infiltrating in the U.S. and the rest of Europe. They’re also everywhere in Africa, too. I read somewhere they’re making friends to the Saoudi’s, a connection that is really very dangerous. You’re optimistic, I believe Europe will still exist for 20 years. Than that dream will be over, and we’ll fall back again into barbarism. Maybe it’s a kind of Fate, but I cannot submit to it.
    -Tony: The problem is indeed with the Arabs but they are simply stupid and know nothing exept their Allah and Sharia law. There is no much success with this down the road. Their oil is the only thing worth of serious considerations, and perhaps some wars were done by the USA and the West because of oil. We shall see but I am rather optimistic. We will have, of course, lots problems with them here in Europe, and the right policies are needed to be outlined on how to deal with them. Europe is slowly progressing to a harder stance, the forbidding of burkas in France, the limitation of Muslim immigration in the Netherlands, the anti Turkey in Eu camp growing in strength. These are indications European people, and their politicians, are waking up from their lethargy.
    If you are interested read this:
    A call to solidarity: Iranian Student Activists Write Letter to President Obama…:
    – Eric: What is interesting is the meaning of what’s called ‘taqiyya’. You have to study this. It permits muslims to do everything what’s necessary to help the expanding of Islam: lying, cheating, feigning, even traiting and denying or insulting Islam. Everything possible to throw sand in the eyes of the infidels (and lots of ‘infidels’ walk with sand in the eyes on the moment).Islamic military strategy is the most perfect strategy ever existed. This already knew Heinrich Himmler. Scruples do not exist in this strategy, feigning scruples, on the other hand, is a weapon you can use effectively.Because of that I think not one muslim who is muslim in the heart can be trusted. Whatever he does, his only aim is to promote Islam and destroy other cultures. Even when he’s friendly or helpful, he’s friendly or helpful for the sake of Islam.Islam, you see, has many weapons. But the strongest weapon is the belly of the muslim woman. The fact that our goverments pay for their children shows that our civilisation is masochistic and maybe earns to be destroyed. He who subsides his enemy is not worth to survive. That already knew Machiavelli.
    – Tony: Yes, I have followed some messages on the Facebook and have noticed Muslims are terribly impossible to discuss with, they stay by their Allah and Sharia law to such a point that I myself have at on point commented as this: “Islam is the thing of the past. Out of fashion!” This comment have probably infuriated the muslim guy and other Muslims but I got points from some Westerners.
    Who likes Sharia law in the West? There is no chance it can be passed in any western country, whether on a national or local level. And that Sharia law is a shit straight from the hell! It turnes women into the slaves and makes them impersonal, and causes them a lot of harm, including the executions and stonings to death as in Iran, Somalia, Jemen, Saudi Arabia…
    I have expressed myself numerous times on Facebook emphasizing the seperation of state, religion and judiciary is a fundament of the western civilisation and must be a fundament for the rest of the world, including also the human rights written don in every constitution on this planet.
    Obama has chosen a right path by proposing India a permanent seat on the Security Council of the UN, but it is just a little step to change the things for better. You must know 70 percent of the members of the UN are undemocratic countries and mostly they are Muslim. And that’s wrong! I have proposed establishment of the World Union or the United World as you like which would replace the UN as the world’s most important organisation. But it wouldn’t be possible to become a member of this new organisation so easy, the mechanisms would be the same as are in the European Union. That means the countries which would like to become members of this new world organisation would have to adapt and adjust to the conditions, notably writing down human rights in their constitutions and reorganisation of their state structures alongside the line of seperation of state, religion and judiciary (thus no Sharia law in this case, because it is part of religion, and religion would have to be apart from state and judiciary, and the same with judiciary: apart from state and religion). There would be, however, benefits from being a member in this new world organisation, somehow as it is the case with the Eastern European countries who have benefited from the membership in the European Union.
    – Eric: some remarks:
    you say: ‘Who likes Sharia law in the West? There is no chance it can be passed in any western country, whether on a national or local level.’
    You know as well as I do that there are already existing sharia courts in western countries (Canada, United Kingdom – since 1982 -, and maybe in Holland) You can read about that on :
    Besides, you have to take in calculation the demographic evolutions: as long as muslims are a minority in the West, there will be sharia only rarely, but the more muslims will come or be born here, the more the chance grows that sharia will be implemented, even in France.I think in a few decades sharia will be accepted in all the European countries. That evolution will be, and is already now, stimulated by leftish political parties (Greens, socialists, liberals) that are infiltrated by islamic politicians.
    You say: ‘I have proposed establishment of the World Union or the United World as you like which would replace the UN as the world’s most important organisation. But it wouldn’t be possible to become a member of this new organisation so easy, the mechanisms would be the same as are in the European Union.’
    The mechanisms to become a member of the EU are already too soft, so I think it’s a bad example. If these EU-mechanisms were all right there would not be any discussion about the entrance of Turkey, it would be clear that Turkey cannot enter the EU.Of course your thinking is also contradictory: the more difficult it is to enter a World organisation, the less ‘world’ will be in that organisation. I think such an organisation in the long run will be smaller and less powerful than the already existing OIC, organisation in which reside 57 Islamic countries that respect and validate sharia laws above human rights.
    I read it were the Polish troops that stopped the Turks at the gates of Vienna in the seventeenth century (was it 1642?). Only for that I’d be proud of being Polish. It’s from this sort of people (Poles, Indians, Serbs, Dutch, Germans) that I expect change and maybe the salvation of Europe.
    – Tony: No, I didn’t know Sharia law was officially introduced in United Kingdom and Canada. Shame! Unbelivable Anglo-Saxons could be so stupid!
    And now yet another blow, that of Saudi Arabia getting place in the managing forum of women in the UN. This is less schocking to me because I know, and everybody knows, UN got compramized already long time ago and it is a world organisation being held hostage to undemocratic countries. This is why George Bush didn’t deal with the UN.
    But, nevertheless, unbelivable!
    And if Turkey gets a membership of the European Union will get extra 20 milion Muslims spreading all over Europe, and this will be indeed, as you have written yesterday, the end of Europe we know. What’s wrong with our politicians?
    – Eric: as promised, some remarks on the comparison between soviet Communism and Islam. I think Islam will not implode as easy, and maybe will never implode as Soviet communism did. First of all Islam is 1400 years old, it’s a long tradition, deeply imbedded in peoples minds. Maybe it will take another 1400 years to get it out of their minds (or maybe it will never). There are sicknesses, like the ilness of Lyme, you can cure when you’re quick (also poisonous serpents bites), the same it is with bad ideologies like fascism, nazism and communism. Neither of them were old when they were destroyed. Islam is something else. The second reason is that Islam is not only an ideology, but also a belief. Communism was materialistic because Marx was a modern materialistic thinker. He didn’t promise the communists paradise after earthly life. So people under communism were disillusioned, they couldn’t expect anything, nor in this life (that was very boring and repressed), nor after life. That’s why they were miscontented and they revolted. Besides, the first countries that revolted were those near behind the iron curtain, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, and they were communismized very late, after WOII. So in the eighties many people still remembered the age of liberty. Maybe, if Soviet Russia hadn’t anschlussed these countries after WOII it still would exist as a communist state. On the other hand Islam promises paradise after life, at least to men, especially to them who are jihadists and who behave as jihadists. The more repressive you conduct to your muslimbrothers and sisters, and to the infidels, the more chance you get to reach the houri-paradise. So Islam creates its own policemen. In fact every believer is also a religious policeman who keeps an eye on the belief of his family, his friends and his wider environment. You understand this makes it a lot more difficult to react against this mad, repressive system, this reli-ideology as I call it. When you can be traited as a man or a woman by your brother, your parents or even your children, you understand it is very risky to act and protest against Islam. That’s also the reason why after 9/11 many moroccans in Europe celebrated this attack, and why nearly no one in the islamic community protested. The ones who didn’t agree with the attacks were scared to the bones to bring out their thoughts and doubts. Another reason why Islam is not to be compared to communism is its subtility. Because of all these rules and regulations it doesn’t give the believers time to reflect intellectualy. The only form of intellectualism that is permitted in Islam is an intellectualism that promotes and strenghtens Islam.Islam uses the weapons if its enemy, the West (gsm, nuclear missiles, guns) against that enemy. And the capitalistic Western world sells these weapons. In this sense you can say capitalism is self-destructive (as democracy is too).
    Subtility you can find also in the concept of taqiyya. Muslims may lie and cheat, they may deny themselves as muslims when necessary and good for Islam. Western people are often very honest, even to their enemies, because they don’t see themselves continually as defenders or soldiers of their own civilisation. They forgot to think in terms as ‘we’ and ‘them’ because the whole western culture is womanized and pacified. But muslims behave in fuction of the momentary situation and their only goal is to help Islam grow, if possible in a pacific way, otherwise by fighting and killing.
    All these reasons make that I think in the long run they – the muslims – are the strongest. We have the brains, but we don’t have the courage, nor the madness, nor the strategic subtilities they have. Without scuples they appeal to our consideration, to our generosity and our naïveness. But they are nor naïve, nor generous, nor considerate. When they seem to be so, it’s just a manifestation of taqiyya, like the radical imam in New York who told on American tv he was against radicalism, only to get the trust of the American people. Allah told him to lie on that moment, you may be sure, and thus he lied (it’s his job).
    I think therefore Allah is a greater genius, a war genius, than the Christian God or even than Jahweh. Allahs children are thieves, rapers, soldiers, killers, lyers, cheaters and thus promotors of Islam. And Allah saw it was good. He smiles his big smile, put his big sigar between his fat lips and his horrible roar resounds through the Universe. He will win, his idiots will win, of that he’s sure.
    – Tony: I have meant that you write a book by yourself! Your essay over the differences between Islam and the Soviet Union is just perfect.
    That they use “concept of taqiyya. Muslims may lie and cheat, they may deny themselves as muslims when necessary and good for Islam. Western people are often very honest, even to their enemies, because they don’t see themselves continually as defenders or soldiers of their own civilisation.” is shocking to me because it means one can never trust Arab/Muslim.
    Your conclusion: “Allahs children are thieves, rapers, soldiers, killers, lyers, cheaters and thus promotors of Islam. And Allah saw it was good. He smiles his big smile, put his big sigar between his fat lips and his horrible roar resounds through the Universe. He will win, his idiots will win, of that he’s sure.” is also terrible.
    Does it all mean the Western cultures are doomed?
    – Eric: I have a dream, Tony. The first thing that has to happen is the splitting of Belgium. So the Wallons can make of Wallonie a sort of zone where they can experiment with islamisation and sharia as much as they want. There they can invite all the muslims of the world, put them in hotels, give them 500 € a day, change the names of the streets into for example Mohammedstraat, Jihadstraat, Shariastraat etc, make kneelings five times a day in the streets outside obligated etc etc. I wish Madame Milquet a happy time in that sort of wildlife park. But that they keep off their hands of Flanders, which must become a territory free of islam, a no-go zone for muslims and other idiots with aggressive beliefs (I think also of neo-nazi’s, communists etc.) Than Flanders would be my paradise (a lot of trees and flowers have to be planted, and the women may feel free again to walk in short shirts and skirts, without beha’s etc., as during the sixties, before islamisation)

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