The abuse of the medical system to discredit counter-narrative people in BC

This story about a BC man who was essentially arrested and forced into a mental health facility for evaluation is still undetermined as to its nature. At least fully. However, this site has a regular reader who had a VERY similar thing happen to her. She may or may not choose to share her experience in the comments. But it mirrors this event nearly perfectly. Even to having 2 doctors determine that she should not be in the facility, and not being let out till she saw a judge.

Secondly, even what we found about his posts on Social media indicate that his views are counter-narrative, and therefore considered to call his ‘sanity’ into question.

Thirdly, there was a doctor we wrote about a fair amount on this site who was sectioned, as they used to call it, during Covid for questioning the vaxx’s effects on the not-yet born. This would be Dr. Mel Bruchet. He was locked up for speaking clear and obvious vaccine truths if memory serves. In fact he was saying much what the Helen Grus research would have turned up. Helen in fact, is relatively lucky compared to Bruchet.

All of this is forward to the current issue. But an event means far less as an isolated case than when you flesh out the context in a relevant way. This is not reaching to a rhetorically useful level of abstraction. That is one of the leftist’s greatest rhetorical cons. We are showing that people with counter-narrative views, especially when they have some academic or societal authority can be destroyed without even the decency of a captured legal process, by channeling them into the mental health system. The gentleman currently facing this Soviet style tactic is a biophysics researcher with a background at Western University.

Below is what Grok gave me on the issue including the narrative negation of the likely truth of the matter:

What Happened

Nicholas Jordan Wagter (a biophysics researcher with a background at Western University) was involuntarily detained under British Columbia’s Mental Health Act (specifically a Form 4 certificate). A psychiatrist named Dr. Taylor (Vancouver Coastal Health) observed him in a public café some time earlier.
She gathered additional information from his family members (referred to by him as the “Wagter-Browns”).
Based on that, she issued the certificate authorizing police to apprehend him for psychiatric assessment.
He was stopped in his car by the Car 87 mental health crisis response team (police + mental health workers) and taken to Vancouver General Hospital.

He has been posting videos from inside the hospital claiming:It’s unlawful / retaliatory.
He’s been “cleared by two other medical professionals” but is still being held.
It’s connected to his online research and political views.

Why Was He Committed?

The official reason (according to the process described in his own videos and collateral reports) is the standard criteria under BC’s Mental Health Act:He appeared to be suffering from a mental disorder.
He was deemed to be at risk of harm to himself or others (or unable to care for himself).

No public evidence has emerged that this was done solely for his political views. Family members appear to have been involved in providing collateral information, which is very common in these cases.

Context from His Own Content & Public ReactionWagter has been posting extensively about government corruption, Chinese influence in Canada, intelligence issues, etc.
Many of his followers are calling this “medical kidnapping” or political persecution.
A significant number of comments (including on Reddit and Instagram) suggest he may be in the middle of a manic episode or other mental health crisis. His family reportedly has a history of concern.

This is a developing situation — he is still posting from the hospital as of today.Main LinksHis main video announcing it: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DYsnXzbyOwO/
“Proof I’m still in here”: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DYup9RrzZIu/
His profile: @nicholas_jordan_wagter

The fact that CSIS itself has made a number of speeches, testimonies and interviews attempting to show Canadians the extent of Chinese influence in Canada doesn’t seem to be a mitigating factor here. In other words, he believed that China exercises undue influence. The fact is, anyone who doesn’t comes closer to a definition of crazy.

What’s missing is the order of events.

Reading this, it looks to me like what is at least equally likely is the following:

A psychiatrist who was aware of his social media postings, planted herself at a cafe she knew he would be at. She ‘observed’ him for a while, then went on to seek his family and get data that would add gravitas to her commitment of him. Next thing you know, well you will see the video of his arrest below and subsequent videos from inside the facility.

But even if I am wrong on this and it was a coincidence that the shrink was at the same cafe and she had already gotten reports from his family etc. etc. there is one pressing question that really matters and only one.

From where did the state get the power to do this to him?

It cannot be that they felt he was a danger to himself. The number one killer of Canadians now is the state itself with its increasingly lax criteria for administering MAiD.

A danger to others? Seems to me that if that was the case, every religious Muslim and ANTIFA member should be in the nuthouse and now.

Something really, really stinks about this. The fact that the arresting officer, yes its an arrest when they take you somewhere you don’t want to go and you have no choice. An arrest at best. A kidnapping is also a reasonable characterization given that there is ZERO DUE PROCESS.

I cannot embed the video but you can watch it here:

https://rumble.com/shorts/v7adu2y

From inside the facility:

https://rumble.com/shorts/v7aelaq

Now this may be pure coincidence. In that video he mentions that his was the only room with no drapes. As a consequence, he couldn’t sleep until he taped material over the windows because of the amount of light coming in to his room from them.

As it happens, I am at the part of the Gulag Archipelago where Solzhenitsyn is explaining the various tortures used to get people into a state of willingness to confess to whatever is shoved in front of them, Special emphasis is placed on forcing a lack of sleep. Solzhenitsyn even states that had medieval torturers been aware of the amazing properties of forcing sleep deprivation on people, they could have forgone all the messy and expensive torture devices so typical of the age.

Last data point, British Columbia is the most communist province of Canada. They ran a multi-year pilot decriminalizing pretty much all recreational drugs. Which worked out as one might expect.

But all this aside, every word of it. The only thing that matters is, how did the state take the power to do this to anyone?

Why are we not furious about it and demanding it be undone NO MATTER that justification, given the clearly dialectical way that these kinds of powers are deployed. Again, there is not an Imam in Canada that shouldn’t be locked up based on this criteria. Just thumb through a real translation of Koran, or peruse MEMRI’s site looking for sermons given in Canada.

Make Canada a Republic now.

A post script thought that may help take the point home, In the National Post article showing how a doctor had assessed a man outside a Tim Horton’s restaurant (For American readers, that is basically a McDonalds run by people from India, owned by Brazilians and named after a Canadian Hockey Player) decided he would be better off dead and drove him to his assassination site and killed him with drugs. For this set of actions, the same CPSO that destroyed medical careers of doctors who simply gave their best medical opinions that the mRNA vaxx was not always the best idea for their patients, told this doctor he could continue, but with 6 months supervision.

A London, Ont., doctor who assessed a patient with inflammatory bowel disease and a history of mental health issues for MAID outside a Tim Hortons location and later personally drove the man to the place his life was ended has agreed to a minimum six months’ supervision. […]

As part of an investigation by the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario (CPSO) into two public complaints made against MacLean, an independent assessor appointed to review a number of MacLean’s charts concluded that he “did not meet the standard of practice of the profession, displayed a lack of judgment and that his conduct exposes or is likely to expose patients to harm or injury in five out of twenty charts reviewed,” according to a summary decision of the college’s inquiries, complaints and reports committee.

MacLean was called before the committee to be verbally “cautioned” with respect to the MAID complaints.

In addition to agreeing to mandatory clinical supervision for at least six months as part of an “undertaking” with the college, MacLean will undergo ongoing review of his MAID patient charts and mandatory professional education related to MAID, consent, documentation, professional boundaries and professional behaviour.

Compare that to what happened to Dr. Mark Trozzi for just one, and a dozen other doctors I have interviewed, or know personally in Canada, like Dr. Mary O’Connor. They simply didn’t think the vaxx was a good idea and that no one had the right to force it on them. For those two opinions, one of which turned out to be medically true and the other is axiomatically correct, they were destroyed in terms of their medical careers and licences.

This is apples to apples. We are talking about the SAME CPSO, or College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario.

UPDATE: Someone prompted AI to write a song about this. its AI slop, bit hopefully it will get more attention on this issue.

 

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6 Replies to “The abuse of the medical system to discredit counter-narrative people in BC”

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  2. More on sectioning, but combined with MAID. Turns out iconic donut shop Tim Hortons is a one-stop shop:

  3. Thank You VLAD. I was thinking of you when the story broke.

    And YES, it happened to me on December 3rd, a few months ago. – This will be a LONG ACCOUNT but stick with it as it can happen to you.
    ———-
    How it unfolded: In the early summer of 2024, I was diagnosed with cancer. The worst version of the disease. I underwent surgery. All seemed fine but a few months later, more nodules show up.

    The new oncologist told me with chemo, I had two years and a few months to live. Without chemo, a few months only. So, I chose the chemo.

    I told the Onco that I refuse to die in a hospital room surrounded by four walls and masses of tubes. Not going there. When the suffering becomes quite intense, I will handle it myself in my beautiful back yard surrounded with loads of trees, hedges, flowers, birds… A nice way to leave.

    I told him of a cancer-afflicted friend who had recently did the deed in his home, a small cut to his wrist above the toilet seat. Me, I’m thinking when the intense suffering shows up, sleeping pills and two bottles of wine with my computer next to me, lying down in a lounge chair on the grass next to a long cedar hedge. I nice way to leave.

    The Onco went into a full-blown panic. He says I am suicidal, a danger to others, homicidal… He asked if I had any knives in my home. I replied that I have knives in the kitchen. Any other knives? Well… back in 2009, a friend had gifted me with a small knife to defend myself. The friend put it in my bed and I don’t think about it & its location in my bed changes when I make my bed. An irrelevant knife that I’m stuck with.

    The Once panics even more. He’s not listening to me. Horrific situation, it was. He’s hung up on the small knife and not the bigger knives in the kitchen. I think he was on drugs. I left his office bewildered.
    __________

    The next day, at 1h00 pm, I’m back at the Onco unit for my 2-hour chemotherapy. I want to live for two more years. I find out a PSYCHIATRIST wants to see me at Door 87 at 4h00 pm. – I’m a nice person, I replied OK.

    A female Psych showed up during my chemo treatment, spent no more than 20 minutes on the right side of the room of which there was some 10 minutes of silence on her part. I could barely keep my eyes on her, my head remained straight facing the door. And the ‘small knife’ was the subject matter. Because the chemo feeding tube must remain straight, my attention was to keep my arm and hand from moving in the slightest.

    The Psych leaves. Interview is over.
    ———-

    At 3h45 pm, my chemo treatment is over. The nurse removes the tubing and helps me out of the chemo bed.

    I get up, take my belongings and purse, and I’m ready to go to Room 87 for the 4h00 appointment.

    Instead, the female Psychiatrist that had interviewed me earlier.shows up at my door with two well-built security guards. Before witnesses, she says I am suicidal, homicidal, a danger to my self and dangerous towards others. What the hell is she talking about, I thought.

    She’s confining me to a mental ward for an indefinite amount of time, it could be days… weeks. The hospital witnesses were all horrified by what was being done to me, they all know I am a happy and smooth patient.

    I refused to go. I told her I’m going home to my budgies that are waiting for me.
    She looked at the heavy/tall security guy, motioned with her eyes toward my left wrist, his eyes looked at my wrist, his right arm/hand started moving toward me, and I knew I was doomed to be forcefully kidnapped.

    To preserve my dignity and avoid injury, I accepted to follow them. And up I went to the 4th floor (security elevator) where they proceeded to put me in a windowless room, take all my clothes & belongings, and I was left with a book I had brought and nothing more.

    I found a wall phone, called a friend, and gave instructions for my budgies.
    __________

    Although I could say much more, I will say I was very quiet during my forced detention and spent much time walking the hallway. I barely ate (it’s a pro-cancer diet loaded in sugar). The lighting is a dull LED-type and the ceiling is high.

    On the 3rd day, I was summoned for a Court appearance. The judge understood everything. Back to my room, I saw a male psychiatrist for evaluation, as per the judge’s order, and I was free to leave! – I left on the 4th day after accepting a second evaluation. Both evaluations were in my favor.
    ———-

    When you gain your freedom from the unknown, you’re in shock. It takes time to recover.

    I requested a full copy of my stay from the Archives. And I was filled my anger. The male nurse and the female Psych that had me confined, both lied and lied about me being in Delirium and Psychosis; the 69-page document went through five revisions from those involved during my stay. It’s a tightly knit club.

    I will heading to Court – A Civil lawsuit for redress.
    ———-

    GOOD NEWS: After my return to my home, my cancer treatment was changed to immunopherapy and Permetrex. My cancer is in remission. Of three small nodules, one is stable, the other decreased in size, and the third disappeared. I credit the Fenbendazole, Ivermectin, and a sugarless (slightly acidic) diet.

    THANK YOU for READING ME and BEWARE of ALL PSYCHIATRISTS.