Ireland moves to first place in loss of private property, the end of the ‘Kulaks’ The safety of the Vaxx: Links 1, March 17, 2022

1. Yes, the crisis is being used to end the existence of private property. Computing Forever

2. Let’s not forget the last crisis. From Alex Berenson’s Substack

3. An Australian doctor explains how all medical practitioners have been gagged, and how the spike protein from the vaxx affects women’s menstrual cycles.

4. Peter McCullough on the TWO teen boys who died in their beds after getting the life saving, safe and effective shot for the flu.

5. Naomi Wolf: You are either a white supremacist, or you accept every position the Democrats have”

Thank you all for your contributions of all kinds to this effort.

Today’s entries for the counter-marxist dictionary I am considering making, are these:

“Raising Awareness” – Delivering one sided propaganda for the left

“Philanthropists” – Oligarchs working for the destruction of the nation state. Bill Gates and George Soros for 2. Conversely, an oligarch is someone who uses their money and power for things the left doesn’t like.

“Housing Stock” – State transformation of private property into a state asset to be used at the whim of bureaucrats who never worked a minute in their lives to acquire it, renovate it, live in it or decorate it.

“White supremacist” – Anyone who disagrees with a communist about anything at all. )Please also see, Nazi, Misogynist, Bigot, anti-vaxxer)

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76 Replies to “Ireland moves to first place in loss of private property, the end of the ‘Kulaks’ The safety of the Vaxx: Links 1, March 17, 2022”

  1. My physician knows about Ivermectin but he’s gagged, he told me. So sad that a few people can control so many.

    That said, I was out quickly doing errands and it is astonishing to see people and many staff double down on hand lathering and face-masking. At Staples, the clerk told me to cover and tighten the nose area and bring the mask down to my chin. So, I did and still, she wouldn’t approach me. I told the Staples clerk ‘What are you going to do when the mask comes off?’.

    We have too many people who are now robots. Scary as hell.

  2. #1. That is the Roman Catholic Church’s Social Doctrine. We will see it continue to be implemented around the world.

  3. By perchance, are you a Protestant Christian, Maplewood?
    Is this a biased dance of a Sunni-Shia competition, over a domination and subjugation of Earth for their version of the one true Lord?

    Your flat Earth viewpoint still prevailing?
    https://vladtepesblog.com/2021/12/26/invasion-of-the-holographs-and-sam-dube-speaks-with-deloris-cahill-links-2-for-december-26-2021/#comments

    I ask, because I hope people’s observations change at some point to see their devil of resentment makes them run to their God who is not god at all.

    This Catholic Plan that the Communists and Islam will surrender to – may we see it?

  4. Have you read the Social Doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church? Thats where I get my info from. Like I have said to you before, I can’t do the research for you. I have posted it in the past.

    Are you aware at all of what life was like in Europe under Papal rule for 1260 years? Does a leopard change its spots?

    Yes the world is flat. Did you ever answer any of my questions in that chat yet? Or are you still taking the scientism approach? Do you still believe water DOESNT seeks its own level? Do you still believe gravity pulls objects to the ground, but only the ones heavier then air? Do you still believe inertia applies to everything in the world except the “spinning globe earth model”?

    • “Have you read the Social Doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church?”
      https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/social-doctrine-of-the-roman-catholic-church

      Of course. But people come here brand new all the time, so what is very repetitive to you, is very fresh to them. Our audience is the ignorant, not the blind.
      .
      “Are you aware at all of what life was like in Europe under Papal rule for 1260 years…”
      Every religious rule from Buddhist to Monotheism to Communist has broken the child.

      “Yes the world is flat. Did you ever answer any of my questions in that chat yet? Or are you still taking the scientism approach?
      Empirical evidence. I would think it nice for some to feel they are at the Center of the Universe – and the Earth is their Garden; but because are one meteor away from disaster, I hope better minds than mine are working on it.

      Do you still believe water DOESNT seeks its own level?”
      Water will conform to a gravity well, and be a perfect sphere in Space.

      “Do you still believe gravity pulls objects to the ground, but only the ones heavier then air?”
      The densest mass in a liquid will become the core of a planet.

      “Do you still believe inertia applies to everything in the world except the “spinning globe earth model”?”
      The act of spinning creates momentum. Stop the Earth suddenly, and we will still move until we are stopped.

      It is not about these definitions per se are true (because science may reveal a deeper reality) but if these interpretations can be demonstrated.

      The same as the outraged savage and the politely civilized can both be determined – without actually knowing the precise underlying causes.

      Do believe Unbelievers go to a hell?

      • You see the difficulty here?

        I say, ‘magnetism does this’ and someone says ‘no it doesn’t!’

        I say, ‘there is Space, and gravity does this to make spherical planets out of molten rock.’

        Or ‘here are dinosaur bones and the genetic markers for Evolution ‘

        Or, ‘there was starlight in the Universe before the Sun and Earth was first formless.’

        Difficult to debate, when observations can not be matched to an opposing theory of Creatism. Ergo, the Medical Profession are lying to us. Conspiracies to defraud us, because the Anti-Christ in the world, is the only way to go with this. This human-dome of trickery.

        Hence, in this, I respect you very much. You are sincere and honest. Your logical conclusion of the Devil acting through Doctors, Lawyers, and all Men of Pride, impeccable. And because you don’t swear or curse to get your way, doubley so.

        This impass, of travelling beyond the Antarctic Wall on the Circumference of the Flat Earth, is an Expedition I would gladly embark on if I travelled East.

        • Scrub that travel, there’s a war for the soul of Mankind on.

          From the map, I would cross the Kingdoms of Communism, the Kingdoms of islam and the Kingdoms of Sodomy.

          The Flat Earthers have no father.

          • The reason I say Flat Earthers have no father (islam, Communism, and Sexualism) is that your father represents god. A living bible.

            A child goes to their father and love and wisdom, living water, pours out.

            When they have no father, they turn to rigid fixtures.

    • So, now let’s put scientific theory, empirical evidence and direct observation far behind us as worldly things.

      “Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe.”
      Communism: Work is Peace.
      Fascism: Work is Freedom.
      Sexualism: Work is Safety.

      “They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News.”
      That peace, freedom and safety are an illusion.

      “They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.”
      That a perfect human being, who willingly died in our place for all the sh*t we are doing to the World, has given his life for us and received the dearh we deserve. If only we can see this, then will we receive God’s grace to be let into Heaven.

      The matrix falls apart. The Earth is at the Center of the universe, the Heavens are above the Firmament.

      Is this what you can see, Maplewood?
      https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+4:3-4&version=NLT

      But, this is not repentence, but shame. The perfect human being becomes the one to avoid meeting. To be unable to face such in Heaven. To take his death as a ransom for your guilt – that was not his to give – as your pass.

      Communists, Fascists and Sexuals work for new identities to avoid a beating. Afraid to look at their Masters in the eyes. They find salvation through being Good Workers, Good Soldiers and good Somebody Elses. Yes men.

      But worse, is avoiding looking Jesus in the eye. Good Fakes. The Christ is feared.

      Opposite to what Jesus taught, of facing your demons in the wilderness. Where discovering the truth between you, sets you free.

      Jesus did not change one jot of Judaism. St Paul did.
      https://biblehub.com/matthew/5-18.htm

  5. PC this isn’t the Social Doctrine. This is just acknowledging there is such a thing. I will have to dig it up and quote from it.

    (“Have you read the Social Doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church?”
    https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/social-doctrine-of-the-roman-catholic-church

    Of course. But people come here brand new all the time, so what is very repetitive to you, is very fresh to them. Our audience is the ignorant, not the blind.)

  6. PC – (Do you still believe water DOESNT seeks its own level?”
    Water will conform to a gravity well, and be a perfect sphere in Space.)

    We are not in space PC, so why speak of it? Undisturbed water seeks its own level. This can be demonstrated over and over again. Your space water cant not be demonstrated here so it is pseudo science your referring to.

    (“Do you still believe gravity pulls objects to the ground, but only the ones heavier then air?”
    The densest mass in a liquid will become the core of a planet.)

    Again, this has no relationship with reality. No one has drilled deeper than I think 9km down into the earth. Barely breaking the surface of the so-called ball earth which has a so-called radius of 6371 km. Again what you refer to is pseudo science.

    (“Do you still believe inertia applies to everything in the world except the “spinning globe earth model”?”
    The act of spinning creates momentum. Stop the Earth suddenly, and we will still move until we are stopped.)

    Your speaking of momentum. That’s not inertia. If you are in your car going around a long on ramp to get on the highway, you are being forced to the outside of the turn. This force we can feel, and we are only traveling 60 – 80kmh. The so-called spin of the earth is 1000mph or 1600kmh, we should feel that. All the water on earth should be forced to the outside of the spin. But, the argument is “gravity” holds the tremendous weight of the oceans down in place, at the same time a mosquito takes flight from the sea shore.

    If you live up in Canada, the northern part of the so called ball, and you get off the plane down at the equator for a sunny vacation. The dif in the speed of the spin there would be felt for sure. Much faster than up north. Anyone out there felt this?

      • CGI. Yes everything they do is fake.

        Again, you claim this is in space water is curved. We are talking about the earth. You clearly can’t prove water is curved on earth. Unless you use fish eye lens photography.

    • “The so-called spin of the earth is 1000mph or 1600kmh, we should feel that.”

      We feel gravity acting on us, just as we feel the car door pushing against us. It’s just that we are just so used to it that it is only when we are frail or sick do we notice it. The car door stops us spinning off the same as gravity does.

      If the Earth were made of say bubble wrap, then we may all fly off. Reaching Escape Velocity due to negligible gravity.

      • I don’t feel gravity, i dont feel the earth moving either.

        Intertia isn’t gravity.
        (We feel gravity acting on us, just as we feel the car door pushing against us.)
        Also, the door isnt pushing against you, you are pushing up against the door.

    • “The dif in the speed of the spin there would be felt for sure. Much faster than up north. Anyone out there felt this?”

      Yes. Dawns and dusks are more rapid at the equator and slower at the poles.

      “The key to the Coriolis effect lies in Earth’s rotation. Specifically, Earth rotates faster at the Equator than it does at the poles. Earth is wider at the Equator, so to make a rotation in one 24-hour period, equatorial regions race nearly 1,600 kilometers (1,000 miles) per hour. Near the poles, Earth rotates at a sluggish 0.00008 kilometers (0.00005 miles) per hour.”
      https://www.nationalgeographic.org/encyclopedia/coriolis-effect/
      .

      • Is this pseudo science too or is there an expiremtn to prove that?

        I will get back to you after the Sabbath with a few more proofs the earth is flat.

        • Yes.

          I live in the Nothern hemisphere, I have stayed with friends in Jamaica.

          These twilight differences are huge.

          “Now, I have to relate a personal story. In the 1970s, I taught high school math and physics in Zaire. In the summer of 1974, my roommate and I were traveling on bicycle to Kisangani. Our first night was spent in a small town called Kipaka, where we were guests of another teacher’s family. We spent the evening talking with people about
          satellites (called “stars that walk” in Swahili), Americans traveling to the moon, and what snow is like. The people in this farming town were very curious and receptive to what one had to say.

          However, when we explained that in the summertime in the U.S. the days
          can go from 5:30 a.m. to 10 p.m., we were told, “Oh monsieur, we may
          be simple farmers, but not even we are foolish enough to believe a
          story like that!”

          Kipaka is about 4 degrees south of the Equator (near Kasongo, Zaire)
          and the changes in days were so slight as to be unnoticed. Of course twilight was brief all year long.

          Best regards,

          Omnivorous-GA”
          http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview/id/299644.html

          • Correct me if I’m wrong. but my personal observation is that the terminator on the moon, say when its half, changes with latitude. Close to the Equator, the terminator seems straight up and down. In the north, its a much steeper angle. This proves a lot of aspects of celestial mechanics I recon. I believe the Moon never moves more than I think its 30 degrees off the equator. But its been a while since I read up on any of this. But from personal memory, the terminator changes angle with latitude.

      • I have observed the twilights in the nothern latitudes and the Equator, and taken aback how quickly I span out of and into the sun.

        “Now, I have to relate a personal story. In the 1970s, I taught high school math and physics in Zaire. In the summer of 1974, my roommate and I were traveling on bicycle to Kisangani. Our first night was spent in a small town called Kipaka, where we were guests of another teacher’s family. We spent the evening talking with people about

        satellites (called “stars that walk” in Swahili), Americans traveling to the moon, and what snow is like. The people in this farming town were very curious and receptive to what one had to say.

        However, when we explained that in the summertime in the U.S. the days can go from 5:30 a.m. to 10 p.m., we were told, “Oh monsieur, we may be simple farmers, but not even we are foolish enough to believe a story like that!”

        Kipaka is about 4 degrees south of the Equator (near Kasongo, Zaire) and the changes in days were so slight as to be unnoticed. Of course twilight was brief all year long.

        Best regards,

        Omnivorous-GA”
        http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview/id/299644.html

        • The closer the sun is to where you are, the more sunlight you get. Its very straight forward. The same goes for the closer the sun is to you the warmer it gets. The sun orbits over head like the moon does.

          If you stuck a paper half moon to the ceiling of your living room. You stand at opposite sides of the room from your spouse, you each have a dif observation of what the moon looks like. Ones says for example the bottom half is illuminated, the other says its the top half. This explains the dif that a south American wud see at the same time a Canadian would see.

        • This has no explanation of why we don’t feel a difference in how fast the earth is moving under our feet after traveling from north to the equator.

          We don’t feel any movement when there is no movement.

  7. PC, here is a few quotes for Rome’s social doctrine.

    The Conformity that will be Mandatory
    In order to implement this agenda, the Compendium of [Roman] Catholic Social Doctrine has already spelled out some of the necessary compliances. For example, nobody will be allowed to refrain from cooperating in “the common good.” “The common good” is officially defined as follows,

    The principle of the common good, to which every aspect of social life must be related if it is to attain its fullest meaning, stems from the dignity, unity and equality of all people…the common good indicates the sum total of social conditions which allow people, either as groups or as individuals, to reach their fulfilment more fully and more easily…The common good, in fact, can be understood as the social and community dimension of the moral good.14

    Benedict’s encyclical makes much of requiring freedom for the individual “human person” and for the Papacy. This is totally a ploy as there is no freedom allowed for anyone in the temporal realm. Thus, Compendium states, “The common good therefore involves all members of society, no one [in the temporal realm] is exempt from cooperating, according to each one’s possibilities, in attaining it and developing it.”15

    Further, all private property and goods are to be subject to papal ruling on whether it is being used for “the common good.” The Compendium, of which this latest papal encyclical is a part, states the position to which Benedict holds. Its directive is the following,

    Putting the principal of the universal destination of goods into concrete practice…means that methods, limits and objects must be precisely defined…If it is true that everyone is born with the right to use the goods of the earth, it is likewise true that, in order to ensure that this right is exercised in an equitable and orderly fashion, regulated interventions are necessary, interventions that are the result of national and international agreements, and a juridical order that adjudicates and specifies the exercise of this right.16

    While this is astonishing, the directives become worse,

    Christian [i.e. Roman Catholic] tradition has never recognized the right to private property as absolute and untouchable: ‘On the contrary, it has always understood this right within the broader context of the right common to all to use the goods of the whole of the creation: the right to private property is subordinated to the right to common use, to the fact that goods are meant for everyone.’17.

    https://amazingdiscoveries.org/caritas-in-veritate-the-popes-plans-on-organizing-political-economic-and-religious-activities-worldwide

    • Good will towards neighbors, means to bear them no ill-will.
      it does not mean to impose the common good.

      This trickery of goodness. Jesus weaponized.

      In full agreement, Maplewood.

      • With the caveat: “Christian [i.e. Roman Catholic] tradition has never recognized the right to private property as absolute and untouchable: ‘”

        Private property isn’t untouchable. It is muslims who cut off beggars hands, not Christians.

        Putting possessions that can be reborn, over life that cannot, reveals the level some stoop to to win an argument.

      • And so, like yourself Maplewood, I read the article posted from you as if the author were honest. For who would not agree that the statement below is evil:

        “Further, all private property and goods are to be subject to papal ruling on whether it is being used for “the common good”.

        Which is why we should always link to the original document to which it refers.

        This statement is a scurrilous lie. The common good is referred to, is that nations are naturally set up for their citizens. It is not Common Purpose.

        Your lack credible sources of science and religion, seem to have a huge impact on you.
        I hope our discourse has helped. 🙂

        • “Your lack credible sources of science and religion, seem to have a huge impact on you.
          I hope our discourse has helped. ?”

          I don’t understand what you mean here.

        • Like with communists, you can’t read the popes writings and use ur definitions of words to interpret. The phrase “common good” used by the pope is defined in papal documents.

          Glad to hear a brilliant mind like yourself is going to read what the popes have said.

        • (“Further, all private property and goods are to be subject to papal ruling on whether it is being used for “the common good”.

          Which is why we should always link to the original document to which it refers.

          This statement is a scurrilous lie. The common good is referred to, is that nations are naturally set up for their citizens. It is not Common Purpose)

          Its not a lie. The pope defines “the common good”. Therefore the statement is correct.

          • “Its not a lie. The pope defines “the common good”. Therefore the statement is correct.”

            The Pope made an appeal to the government to help in the crisis of the working-poor by defining its role for the common good.

            From the RERUM NOVARUM: there are five references to “Common good”

            [The State]
            32. “It lies in the power of a ruler to benefit every class in the State, …to serve the common good.” “…the more that is done for the benefit of the working classes by the general laws the less need will there be to seek for special means to relieve them.”

            34. “…although all citizens…ought to contribute to that common good… yet it should not be supposed that all can contribute in the like way and to the same extent.” “…it cannot but be good for the commonwealth to shield from misery those on whom it so largely depends for the things that it needs”.

            35. “…the State must not absorb the individual or the family; both should be allowed free and untrammelled action so far as is consistent with the common good and the interest of others” “…the safety of the commonwealth is not only the first law, but it is a government’s whole reason of existence…” “…the State should be, not the advantage of the ruler, but the benefit of those over whom he is placed.”

            38 “…neither justice nor the common good allows any individual to seize upon that which belongs to another, or, under the futile and shallow pretext of equality, ..to lay violent hands on other people’s possessions”

            [Freedom of Association]
            51 “Civil society exists for the common good, and hence is concerned with the interests of all in general and hence is concerned with the interests of all in general…” “But societies which are formed in the bosom of the commonwealth are styled private,”

            From this, there a Catholic Plot? To force common good, onto the world? Or is there just an urging for the government ease the suffering?

            45. “…that wages ought not to be insufficient to support a frugal and well-behaved wage-earner.”

            From this, has come the Minimum Wage established from the National Minimum Wage Act (UK), which came in to force on 31 July 1998?

            I do not project from the past back into the present. There is not a word-code that connects “common good” with the Marxist “Common Purpose.” People thought differently then.

            This is how some project the End Times prophecy (in Revelations) into the world today. A local reference when people believed the End was imminent within their lifetime, because the Messiah had come.

            Conspiracy Theories. Who could they be who believe them?

            • Refer to my post below this at March 18, 8:11 for the response. Its all there. Ending capitalism from Rerum Novarum. Short quote from my post here –

              (Rerum Novarum
              Those familiar with Rerum Novarum, outlined by Walter Veith in Total Onslaught’s New World Order, will know that it is one of the Roman Church-State’s most influential statements on economic matters, in which Rome lays down for all humankind “unerring rules for the right solution of the difficult problem of human solidarity.”ix Pius XI mentions in his encyclical Quadragesimo Anno (1931) that Rerum Novarum was instrumental in ending laissez-faire capitalismx in the twentieth century by ushering in the era of “effective interference” by the government. “Rerum Novarum…was the voice of moral authority needed to ensure the development of effective interference by all governments in the twentieth century.”xi)

              (Aren’t we seeing this happening in the US?
              “The experiment with economic freedom,” Pius XI wrote in 1965, “must end, and economic life must again be subjected to planning and government.”xix

              And indeed life as we have known it is ending.

              https://amazingdiscoveries.org/ad-newsletter-archive-winter-2009-Doublespeak)

  8. PC, more social doctrine.

    The Economic Thought of the Roman Catholic Church
    Common Property – Fascism
    Thomas Aquinas is a Catholic philosopher and theologian who is considered by the Catholic Church to be its greatest theologian and a doctor of the Church. His thinking is apparently “foundational for understanding the economic thought of the Roman Church-State.”ii Aquinas believes in the socialist idea of communal possessions. He wrote in Summa Theologiae ii-ii 5th article, “the possession of all things in common is the natural law…‘the possession of all things in common and universal freedom’ are said to be of the natural law because, to wit, the distinction of possessions and slavery were not brought in by nature, but devised by human reason for the benefit of human life.”

    “The community of goods,” wrote Thomas, “is ascribed to the natural law, not that the natural law dictates that all things should be possessed in common and that nothing should be possessed as one’s own, but because the division of possessions is not according to the natural law, but rather arose from human agreement, …the ownership of possessions is not contrary to the natural law, but an addition thereto devised by human reason…Hence, whatever certain people have in superabundance is due, by natural law, to the purpose of succorring the poor” (2nd and 7th articles).

    So, as Rome sees it, property is for common good. You may own it, but it is for common good. Whatever you have that is more than you need will be given to others. Does this mean in practical terms that if you own anything, you will be taxed to death so that the state may collect revenues to support those who have not?

    It may also mean, as has happened in South Africa, that if your house is vacant, squatters may come in to occupy your home, and nothing is done to remove them, while you continue to pay the bills. Make no mistake, such things have happened.

    Pius XI tells us this in his 1931 encyclical Quadragesimo Anno:
    Under fascism, property owners may keep their property titles and deeds, but the use of their property is, as Leo XIII wrote, “common”. Fascism is a form of socialism that retains the forms and trappings of capitalism, but not its substance. Under fascism, property titles and deeds are intact, but the institution of private property has disappeared. Government regulations and mandates have replaced it. For this distinction between legal ownership and actual use, the fascists owe a debt to the Roman Church-State.iii

    Redistribution of Wealth
    John Paul II wrote this in Sollicitudo Rei Socialis (On Social Concern) in 1987:
    …the goods of this world are originally meant for all. The right to private property is valid and necessary, but it does not nullify the value of this principle. Private property, in fact, is under a ‘social mortgage’, which means that it has an intrinsically social function, based upon and justified precisely by the principle of the universal destination of goods.iv

    In the same document, Pope John Paul also wrote that in today’s world “we are faced with a serious problem of unequal distribution of the means of subsistence originally meant for everybody” (emphasis added).v

    It sounds like the economic theory being espoused here is redistribution of wealth.

    That is, in fact, exactly what it is. But it gets worse. Because the goods of some are due to others according to natural law, it is not considered sinful for the poor take the goods of their neighbors. Thomas continues in his Summa Theologiae ii-ii, 7th article, “In cases of need, all things are common property, so that there would seem to be no sin in taking another’s property, for need has made it common.”
    Not only is such taking of another’s property not a sin, it is not even a crime, according to Thomas:
    …it is lawful for a man to succor his own need by means of another’s property by taking it either openly or secretly; nor is this, properly speaking, theft and robbery… It is not theft, properly speaking, to take secretly and use another’s property in a case of extreme need; because that which he takes for the support of his life becomes his own property by reason of that need…In a case of a like need, a man may also take secretly another’s property in order to succor his neighbour in need (7th article).

    According to this statement, your neighbor determines the need. And, according to Thomas Aquinas’ article, it is even lawful for you to steal for your neighbor’s need!

    Roman Catholic economic thought, as developed by the popes in their encyclicals and by Roman Church-State councils, has contributed to these political viewpoints:

    Feudalism and guild socialism in Europe during the Middle Ages and in the 20th century
    Fascism in Italy, Spain, Portugal, Croatia, and Latin America
    Nazism in Germany
    Interventionismvi and the redistributive state in the West, including the United States
    Liberation theologyvii in Latin America and Africa

    The 36th US President Lyndon Johnson had this Marxist principle as his creed during his “Great Society”viii initiative: “We shall take from the haves and give to the have-nots, who need it so much.” The same attitude appears in the literature of fascism, Nazism, liberation theology, interventionism, and socialism.

    Let us now look at two papal encyclicals that are particularly relevant to today’s political and economic issues: Pope Leo’s Rerum Novarum (1891) and Pope Paul VI’s Populorum Progressio (1967):

    Rerum Novarum
    Those familiar with Rerum Novarum, outlined by Walter Veith in Total Onslaught’s New World Order, will know that it is one of the Roman Church-State’s most influential statements on economic matters, in which Rome lays down for all humankind “unerring rules for the right solution of the difficult problem of human solidarity.”ix Pius XI mentions in his encyclical Quadragesimo Anno (1931) that Rerum Novarum was instrumental in ending laissez-faire capitalismx in the twentieth century by ushering in the era of “effective interference” by the government. “Rerum Novarum…was the voice of moral authority needed to ensure the development of effective interference by all governments in the twentieth century.”xi

    Let’s clarify what he is saying. It was because of Rerum Novarum that governments began to change in the 20th century. So much for arguments that we rest our ideas of Catholicism on outdated 19th century quotations. The attitudes dispalyed in these very quotations have been shaping our world today. See for yourself in this next quote from 1931:
    Under the guidance and in light of Leo’s encyclical was thus evolved a truly Christian social science, which continues to be fostered and enriched daily by the tireless labours of those picked men whom we have named the auxiliaries of the Church…The doctrine of Rerum Novarum began little by little to penetrate among those who, being outside Catholic unity, do not recognize the authority of the Church; and these Catholic principles of sociology gradually became part of the intellectual heritage of the whole human race…Thus too, we rejoice that the Catholic truths proclaimed so vigorously by our illustrious Predecessor [Leo XIII in 1891’s Rerum Novarum], are advanced and advocated not merely in non-Catholic books and journals, but frequently also in legislative assemblies and in courts of justice” (emphasis added).xii

    Remember this quote as we study what is currently happening in the world. Here is proof that Roman Catholic policies, principles, and doctrine have penetrated secular venues to such an extent that individuals who otherwise have no allegiance to or connection with the Roman Catholic Church are promoting its agenda. How many of those individuals don’t even know that they have been influenced to believe and think as someone else would have them believe and think? And how was this accomplished? The Roman Church-State tells us: “by the tireless labours of those picked men” who are “auxiliaries of the Church.”

    These picked men, auxiliaries of the Church, can be none other than the Jesuits. They have sworn allegiance to the Pope, swearing to take any guise, even that of the Protestant, in order to achieve the Catholic Church’s aims.

    Populorum Progressio
    According to Pope Benedict’s most recent encyclical, Caritas in Veritate, Pope Paul VI’s encyclical Populorum Progressio “deserves to be considered ‘the Rerum Novarum of the present age’”.xiii So what does it have to say that is so pivotal for our day?
    …each man has therefore the right to find in the world what is necessary for himself. The recent Council [Editor’s Note: “The Council” refers to Vatican II which issued the Constitution entitled Gaudium et Spes] reminded us of this: “God intended the earth and all that it contains for the use of every human being and people. Thus, as all men follow justice and unite in charity, created goods should abound for them on a reasonable basis.” All other rights whatsoever, including those of property and of free commerce, are to be subordinated to this principle.xiv

    Gaudium et Spes explains, “if one is in extreme necessity he has the right to procure for himself what he needs out of the riches of others.”xv Here once more, stealing is endorsed. And we are told by Pope Benedict that this document and its principles codified at Vatican II are to be considered today’s definitive statement on social doctrine.

    Therefore, because private property is immoral, all men – individuals and governments – have the moral obligation to redistribute goods held unjustly by property owners (emphasis added).xvi

    Pope Benedict’s 2009 encyclical Caritas in Veritate underscores this belief loud and clear by claiming that the current economic crisis was created primarily in and by the private sector. We will be looking at this most recent encyclical in our next issue.
    Here is John Paul II in Laborem Exercens:
    “[all men must have] access to those goods which are intended for common use: both the goods of nature and manufactured goods.”xvii

    If it is not already abundantly clear, it is time to separate ourselves emotionally from our property. The time is coming when we will suffer heavy taxation or have our belongings taken away from us to support this new order. Today we are seeing this economic plan being put into practice before our eyes.

    According to Second Vatican Council document Gaudium et Spes, “The complex circumstances of our day make it necessary for public authority to intervene more often in social, economic and cultural matters.”xviii

    Aren’t we seeing this happening in the US?
    “The experiment with economic freedom,” Pius XI wrote in 1965, “must end, and economic life must again be subjected to planning and government.”xix

    And indeed life as we have known it is ending.

    https://amazingdiscoveries.org/ad-newsletter-archive-winter-2009-Doublespeak

    • “In cases of need, all things are common property, so that there would seem to be no sin in taking another’s property, for need has made it common.”

      “Situational ethics or situation ethics takes into account only the particular context of an act when evaluating it ethically, rather than judging it only according to absolute moral standards.” -Wiki.

      And so stealing due to avarice and stealing for survival are two very different things with the same resultant action.

      But who would conclude therefore, that for the Common Good of All Mankind, wealth should be redistributed?

      The child then goes to ask their father.

      He replied, “Did the robbers become poor by accident, or by sloth?”

      The Mother Churches, Mother States and Mother Genders won’t ask this. Their flocks become weak until they sell their children.

    • “The doctrine of Rerum Novarum began little by little to penetrate among those who, being outside Catholic unity, do not recognize the authority of the Church; and these Catholic principles of sociology gradually became part of the intellectual heritage of the whole human race…”

      Is this true? Are the “Catholic principles of sociology” the greatest threat to Mankind?

      Rerum Novarum (“of revolutionary change”) on the Rights and Duties of Capital and Labor, was an encyclical issued by Pope Leo XIII on 15 May 1891.
      https://www.vatican.va/content/leo-xiii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_15051891_rerum-novarum.html

      It is summarized in a video here:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RvKLYH6i4U

      Just as Vlad today, debates the Medical Revolution (c 2019 -) regarding Public Health Mandates vs Personal Liberties and questioning the Rights and Duty of Medical Industrialists over Labor in counting the number of industrial accidents and deaths.

      “Between 1760 and 1860, technological progress, education, and an increasing capital stock transformed England into the workshop of the world.”

      “One group, the pessimists, argues that the living standards of ordinary people fell, while another group, the optimists, believes that living standards rose.

      At one time, behind the debate was an ideological argument between the critics (especially Marxists) and the defenders of free markets.”
      https://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/IndustrialRevolutionandtheStandardofLiving.html

      So now that we have the link to the Rerum Novarum in its entirety, this World-Ending Satanic Masterpiece, Maplewood; please directly quote from it to reveal the evil purpose to which it was intended.

      I will now study it too. Many thanks.

      • Finding: The Rerum Novarum is not Satanic. It has partisan brand loyalty, yet offers freedom to all. I have put in bold what I hope are convenient headings. My fault with it is the that author who does not know how to write a coherent introduction and conclusion. (Back to the monastery for him).

        In a troubled time on immigration from the famine of the countryside into the dirty cities, with the utopia of Communism in the background, it looked to exploring ways to help, and the responsibility of mankind.

        RERUM NOVARUM May 15 1891
        ENCYCLICAL OF POPE LEO XIII
        ON CAPITAL AND LABOR
        https://www.vatican.va/content/leo-xiii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_15051891_rerum-novarum.html

        1. & 2. “That the spirit of revolutionary change,…” … … and have issued letters bearing on

        political power,

        human liberty,

        the Christian constitution of the State,…”

        [Political Power]
        3. “…remedy must be found quickly for the misery and wretchedness pressing so unjustly on the majority of the working class…”

        […Refuting the Socialists]
        4. “To remedy these wrongs the socialists, … …are striving to do away with private property…”
        8. “…all human subsistence is derived either from labor on one’s own land, or from some toil, some calling,…”.. when man thus turns the activity of his mind and the strength of his body.. he leaves,… the impress of his personality; and it cannot but be just that he should possess that portion as his very own…”

        14. “…that the civil government should at its option intrude into and exercise intimate control over the family and the household is a great and pernicious error.”

        [Human Liberty]
        16. “…for no practical solution of this question will be found apart from the intervention of religion and of the Church.”

        17. “…people differ in capacity, skill, health, strength; and unequal fortune is a necessary result of unequal condition. Such unequality is far from being disadvantageous either to individuals or to the community.”
        18. “Nothing is more useful than to look upon the world as it really is, and at the same time to seek elsewhere, as We have said, for the solace to its troubles”

        19. The great mistake made in… …the notion that class is naturally hostile to class, and that the wealthy and the working men are intended by nature to live in mutual conflict.” ” …there is no intermediary more powerful than religion …in drawing the rich and the working class together, by reminding each of its duties to the other…”

        20. “…duties, … bind the proletarian and the worker:
        fully and faithfully to perform the work which has been freely and equitably agreed upon;
        never to injure the property, nor to outrage the person, of an employer;
        never to resort to violence in defending their own cause,
        nor to engage in riot or disorder; and
        to have nothing to do with men of evil principles, who… …excite foolish hopes which usually end in useless regrets and grievous loss”

        “…duties… bind the wealthy owner and the employer:
        not to look upon their work people as their bondsmen,
        but to respect in every man his dignity as a person ennobled by Christian character.
        They are reminded that, according to natural reason and Christian philosophy, working for gain is creditable, not shameful,,…”
        but to misuse men as though they were things in the pursuit of gain … – that is truly shameful and inhuman.”

        [The Christian constitution]
        21. “But the Church, with Jesus Christ as her Master and Guide, aims higher still.” …
        “The great truth..- that, when we have given up this present life, then shall we really begin to live.”
        Christ’s labors and sufferings, …have marvellously sweetened all suffering and all labor.”

        “22. Therefore, those whom fortune favors are warned that riches do not bring freedom from sorrow and are of no avail for eternal happiness, but rather are obstacles;”
        23. “…in God’s sight poverty is no disgrace, and that there is nothing to be ashamed of in earning their bread by labor.”
        24 “…the true worth and nobility of man lie in his moral qualities, that is, in virtue..”;
        25 “…if Christian precepts prevail, the respective classes will not only be united in the bonds of friendship, but also in those of brotherly love.”

        26. “But the Church, not content with pointing out the remedy, also applies it.” “The instruments which she employs are given to her by Jesus Christ Himself for the very purpose of reaching the hearts of men, and drive their efficiency from God. … and bring men to act from a motive of duty, to control their passions and appetites, to love God and their fellow men…”
        27. …the examples recorded in history. Of these facts there cannot be any shadow of doubt: … that civil society was renovated in every part by Christian institutions; that in the strength of that renewal the human race was lifted up to better things-nay, that it was brought back from death to life, …nothing more perfect had been known before, or will come to be known in the ages that have yet to be.”
        28. “Neither must it be supposed that the solicitude of the Church is so preoccupied with the spiritual concerns of her children as to neglect their temporal and earthly interests.”
        29. “The Church, .. intervenes directly in behalf of the poor, by setting on foot and maintaining many associations which she knows to be efficient for the relief of poverty. ”
        30. “in order to spare them the shame of begging, the Church has provided aid for the needy.”
        31. “It cannot, …be doubted that to attain the purpose we are treating of, not only the Church, but all human agencies, must concur.”

        [The State]
        “It is sufficient, therefore, to inquire what part the State should play in the work of remedy and relief.”

        32. “The foremost duty, therefore, of the rulers of the State should be to make sure that the laws and institutions, the general character and administration of the commonwealth, shall be such as of themselves to realize public well-being and private prosperity.”

        33. “The members of the working classes are citizens by nature and by the same right as the rich; they are real parts, living the life which makes up, through the family, the body of the commonwealth; and it need hardly be said that they are in every city very largely in the majority.”

        34. “…although all citizens, without exception, can and ought to contribute to that common good in which individuals share so advantageously to themselves, yet it should not be supposed that all can contribute in the like way and to the same extent.”

        “Justice, therefore, demands that the interests of the working classes should be carefully watched over by the administration, so that they who contribute so largely to the advantage of the community may themselves share in the benefits which they create-that being housed, clothed, and bodily fit, they may find their life less hard and more endurable.”

        35. “the object of the government of the State should be, not the advantage of the ruler, but the benefit of those over whom he is placed. As the power to rule comes from God, and is, as it were, a participation in His, the highest of all sovereignties, it should be exercised as the power of God is exercised – with a fatherly solicitude which not only guides the whole, but reaches also individuals.”

        36. “Whenever the general interest or any particular class suffers, or is threatened with harm, which can in no other way be met or prevented, the public authority must step in to deal with it.”

        37. “Rights must be religiously respected wherever they exist, and it is the duty of the public authority to prevent and to punish injury, and to protect every one in the possession of his own.”

        38. “.The authority of the law should intervene to put restraint upon such firebrands, to save the working classes from being led astray by their maneuvers, and to protect lawful owners from spoliation.”

        [Personal Responsibility]
        39. “When work people have recourse to a strike and become voluntarily idle, it is frequently because the hours of labor are too long, or the work too hard, or because they consider their wages insufficient.”

        40. “It is the soul which is made after the image and likeness of God; it is in the soul that the sovereignty resides in virtue whereof man is commanded to rule the creatures below him and to use all the earth and the ocean for his profit and advantage.”

        41. From this follows the obligation of the cessation from work and labor on Sundays and certain holy days. “…motive of Sunday rest; a rest sanctioned by God’s great law of the Ancient Covenant-“Remember thou keep holy the Sabbath day,””

        42. “..the first thing of all to secure is to save unfortunate working people from the cruelty of men of greed, who use human beings as mere instruments for money-making.”

        43. “Wages, as we are told, are regulated by free consent,” “… the only way, it is said, in which injustice might occur would be if the master refused to pay the whole of the wages, or if the workman should not complete the work undertaken; in such cases the public authority should intervene, to see that each obtains his due, but not under any other circumstances.”

        44. “To labor is to exert oneself for the sake of procuring what is necessary for the various purposes of life, and chief of all for self preservation.” “First of all, it is personal, …Secondly, man’s labor is necessary for without the result of labor a man cannot live”

        45. “Let the working man and the employer make free agreements and in particular let them agree freely as to the wages; …”

        46. If a workman’s wages be sufficient if he be a sensible man, to practice thrift, and he will not fail, by cutting down expenses, to put by some little savings and thus secure a modest source of income.”

        “The law, therefore, should favor ownership, and its policy should be to induce as many as possible of the people to become owners.

        47. Many excellent results will follow from this; and, first of all, property will certainly become more equitably divided.”

        [Freedom of Association]
        48. “In the last place, employers and workmen may of themselves effect much, … by means of such associations and organizations as afford opportune aid to those who are in distress, and which draw the two classes more closely together.”

        49. “The most important of all are workingmen’s unions, for these virtually include all the rest. History attests what excellent results were brought about by the artificers’ guilds of olden times.”

        50 “Woe to him that is alone, for when he falleth he hath none to lift him up.”(34) And further: “A brother that is helped by his brother is like a strong city.”

        51. “Civil society exists for the common good, and hence is concerned with the interests of all in general,…” “But societies which are formed in the bosom of the commonwealth are styled private, …since their immediate purpose is the private advantage of the associates.”

        52. “But every precaution should be taken not to violate the rights of individuals [to privately associate] and not to impose unreasonable regulations under pretense of public benefit.”

        53 “And here we are reminded of the confraternities, societies, and religious orders which have arisen by the Church’s authority and the piety of Christian men”

        54. “Associations of every kind, and especially those of working men, are now far more common than heretofore”

        55. “Those Catholics are worthy of all praise-and they are not a few-who, understanding what the times require, have striven, by various undertakings and endeavors, to better the condition of the working class by rightful means.”

        56. “In order that an association may be carried on with unity of purpose and harmony of action, its administration and government should be firm and wise.
        57. “To sum up, then, We may lay it down as a general and lasting law that working men’s associations should be so organized and governed as to furnish the best..”

        58. “The foundations of the organization being thus laid in religion, We next proceed to make clear the relations of the members one to another, in order that they may live together in concord and go forward prosperously and with good results.”

        59. “Such rules and regulations, if willingly obeyed by all, will sufficiently ensure the well being of the less well-to-do; whilst such mutual associations among Catholics are certain to be productive in no small degree of prosperity to the State.”

        60. “But it will be easy for Christian working men to solve it aright if they will form associations, choose wise guides, and follow on the path which with so much advantage to themselves and the common weal was trodden by their fathers before them.”

        61. “… there would exist so much more ground for hope, and likelihood, even, of recalling to a sense of their duty those working men who have either given up their faith altogether, or whose lives are at variance with its precepts. Such men feel in most cases that they have been fooled by empty promises and deceived by false pretexts.”

        62. “We have now laid before you, venerable brethren, both who are the persons and what are the means whereby this most arduous question must be solved.”

        63. “In regard to the Church, her cooperation will never be found lacking, be the time or the occasion what it may.”

        The fact that living standards were about to be going to go through the roof and Middle Class was about to be born, meant they had no Prophets. (Or economists).

        6/10

        • In summary:

          The Roman Catholic Church recognizes a “spirit of revolutionary change,” of men, women and children prostituting their Labor for survival, crying out for a Communism to fair-share the fruits of their work.

          The Church recognizes this oppression come from exploitation and not the win-win of mutual benefit. Christ should be at the heart of all interactions in trade. The instructions to not rip each other off.

          The Catholic Church therefore wrote to its own followers, using it’s own cannon, to assist in this matter.

          Be responsible to one another.
          Defend private ownership.
          The government must have safeguards
          People can help themselves through associations
          The Church must still pick up the very destitute.

          An action plan.

          A faith derived from the belief that God is using The Holy Church to bring all to acknowledge Jesus Christ took on their sins, to allow them to enter Heaven.

          No belief, and the next life is to be cast into Hell.

          Sitting at the Right Hand of God, with apparitions of Mother Mary and the Saints as His intercessors. Jesus will bring a sword at the final Judgement Day.

          A blessing, to avoid a cursing.

          Therefore this encyclical, is true to its cause.

          And because their recovery plan being Satanic, is the discussion of our debate, Maplewood, and not the validity of Catholic ideology, then please, I request you state a better one.

          • https://amazingdiscoveries.org/R-Papacy_aggressive_Pope_Catholic_Chiniquiy

            The Aggressive Intentions of the Papacy

            Many Americans would be surprised to learn that one of the greatest opponents of civil and religious liberty is the Roman Catholic Church.

            No one knows about the Roman Catholic hatred of liberty because history textbooks in public schools and colleges have been, for the most part, purged of nearly all things negative about papal Rome’s bloody history. Many Jesuits and other supporters of Catholicism have allegedly joined textbook selection committees in order to censor negative comments about the Roman Catholic Church. Encyclopedias in the USA have also been affected. History has been rewritten so that less and less people know about the true issues that faced the reformers and the true history of the Catholic Church.

            Darryl Eberhart of Tackling the Tough Topics newsletter writes this:

            Most of our encyclopedias and history textbooks do NOT tell us that the purpose of the attempted invasion of England in 1588 by the Spanish Armada was to land troops in England to be joined by local Roman Catholics in an effort to overthrow the government and bring England, by force, back under the authority of Papal Rome! The Roman Catholic King of Spain (Philip II) wanted financial “compensation” for launching this invasion. And so the Roman pontiff, Pope Sixtus V, promised King Philip II 200,000 crowns as soon as the Spanish Armada had set sail for England, and more cash to follow later. Thus the Papacy was helping to fund the planned invasion of England (all emphasis in original)!i

            In 1931, Pope Pius XI explained this initiative in his encyclical Quadragesimo Anno:

            Under the guidance and in light of Leo’s encyclical was thus evolved a truly Christian social science, which continues to be fostered and enriched daily by the tireless labours of those picked men whom we have named the auxiliaries of the Church…The doctrine of Rerum Novarum began little by little to penetrate among those who, being outside Catholic unity, do not recognize the authority of the Church; and these Catholic principles of sociology gradually became part of the intellectual heritage of the whole human race…Thus too, we rejoice that the Catholic truths proclaimed so vigorously by our illustrious Predecessor [Leo XIII in 1891’s Rerum Novarum], are advanced and advocated not merely in non-Catholic books and journals, but frequently also in legislative assemblies and in courts of justice” (emphasis added).ii

            Here are several quotes highlighting the Papacy’s aggressive intentions:

            Catholic Professor Orestes Brownson, Brownson’s Review (January, 1854): 90:

            But is it the intention of the pope to possess this country? Undoubtedly. In this intention is he aided by the Jesuits and all the Catholic prelates and priests? Undoubtedly, if they are faithful to their religion.iii

            Hector MacPherson, The Jesuits in History (Edinburgh: Macniven and Wallace, 1914): 52, 85, 100:

            …that the Jesuits were actively plotting for the extermination of Protestantism was no fiction of Oates, but a most certain and deadly fact…

            At the Reformation the Irish race remained Romanist; and the miseries which came upon it must be in the main traced to the Jesuits, who used Ireland as a factor in their scheme of overthrowing the Protestantism of England and establishing a Roman Catholic dynasty completely under the control of the Papacy.

            …wherever the Jesuits went, they placed the worldly prosperity and the political influence of their Order above all religious considerations. In accordance with their secret policy they set themselves to gain influence at Court; and, in order to carry their point, they were willing to countenance assassination, sedition, etc.

            Pope John Paul II, in his apostolic letter Ad Tuendam Fidem (May 18, 1998), made bold statements about the need for submission to the Pope on doctrinal issues. He declared that lack of submission was worthy of punishment:

            Whoever denies or places in doubt any truth that must be believed with divine and catholic faith, or repudiates the Christian faith as a whole, and does not come to his senses after having been legitimately warned, is to be punished as a heretic…whoever obstinately rejects a teaching that the Roman Pontiff or the College of Bishops, exercising the authentic Magisterium, have set forth to be held definitively, or who affirms what they have condemned as erroneous, and does not retract after having been legitimately warned, is to be punished with an appropriate penalty.

            One of the doctrinal issues the Papacy demands submission on is the keeping of Sunday. Pope John Paul II said this, in agreement with Ad Tuendam Fidem:

            A person who violates the sanctity of Sunday is to be punished as a heretic.iv

            Pope Nicholas I in a letter to the King of Bulgaria in 860 AD:

            I glorify you for having maintained your authority by putting to death those wandering sheep who refused to enter the fold; and you not only have not sinned, by showing a holy rigour, but I even congratulate you on having opened the kingdom of heaven to the people submitted to your rule. A king need not fear to command massacres, when these will retain his subjects in obedience, or cause them to submit to the faith of Christ; and God will reward him in this world, and in eternal life, for these murders.

            Pope Urban II’s address in Clermont, France in November 1095:

            If you must have blood, bathe in the blood of infidels. Soldiers of hell, become soldiers of the living God!

            Pope Leo VIII, Immortale Dei (November 1, 1885):

            The unrestrained freedom of thinking and of openly making known one’s thoughts is not inherent in the rights of citizens and is by no means worthy of favor and support (emphasis added).

            Pope Pius IX, Quanta Cura (December 8, 1864):

            Which false and perverse opinions [of democracy and individual freedom] are on that ground the more to be detested, because they chiefly tend to this, that that salutary influence be impeded and (even) removed, which the Catholic Church, according to the institution and command of her Divine Author, should freely exercise even to the end of the world — not only over private individuals, but over nations, peoples, and their sovereign princes; and (tend also) to take away that mutual fellowship and concord of counsels between Church and State which has ever proved itself propitious and salutary, both for religious and civil interests…

            From which totally false idea of social government they do not fear to foster that erroneous opinion, most fatal in its effects on the Catholic Church and the salvation of souls, called by Our Predecessor, Gregory XVI, an “insanity,”2 viz., that “liberty of conscience and worship is each man’s personal right, which ought to be legally proclaimed and asserted in every rightly constituted society; and that a right resides in the citizens to an absolute liberty, which should be restrained by no authority whether ecclesiastical or civil, whereby they may be able openly and publicly to manifest and declare any of their ideas whatever, either by word of mouth, by the press, or in any other way (emphasis added).

            The Syllabus of Errors Condemned by Pope Pius IX (December 8, 1864) lists several statements that the Pope called erroneous. Here are a few statements condemned by Pope Pius IX:

            15. Every man is free to embrace and profess that religion which, guided by the light of reason, he shall consider true.

            24. The Church has not the power of using force, nor has she any temporal power, direct or indirect.

            77. In the present day it is no longer expedient that the Catholic religion should be held as the only religion of the State, to the exclusion of all other forms of worship.

            The English Roman Catholic newspaper The Rambler (September 1852):

            Shall I hold out hopes to the Protestant that I will not meddle with his creed, if he will not meddle with mine? Shall I lead him to think that religion is a matter for private opinion, and tempt him to forget that he has no more right to his religious views than he has to my purse, or my house, or my life blood? No! Catholicism is the most intolerant of creeds. It is intolerance itself, for it is the truth itself. We might as rationally maintain that two and two does not make four as the theory of Religious Liberty. Its impiety is only equaled by its absurdity.”

            Catholic World (August 1871): 735:

            We do not accept it [i.e., the Constitutional Republic of the United States of America], or hold it to be any government at all…If the American Republic is to be sustained and preserved at all, it must be by the rejection of the principle of the [Protestant] Reformation, and the acceptance of the Catholic principle…

            “Faith,” The Catechism of the Catholic Church (Liguori Publications, 1994): 507:

            Heresy is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same;…. schism is the refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff or of communion wiht the members of the Church subject to him.

            Civilta Cattolica (House organ of the Jesuits):

            Fascism is the regime that corresponds most closely to the concepts of the Church of Rome.

            Western Watchman (A Roman Catholic publication out of St. Louis):

            The [Roman Catholic] church has persecuted. Only a tyro [i.e., novice] in church history will deny that…one hundred and fifty years after [Roman Emperor] Constantine, the Donatists were persecuted and sometimes put to death…Protestants were persecuted in France and Spain with the full approval of the [Roman Catholic] church authorities…When she [i.e., the Roman Catholic Church] thinks it good to use physical force, she will use it.”

            Protestantism is not a religion…never was a religion. The most that could be said about it was that it was a form of rape and robbery masquerading as a religion.

            Father Charles Chiniquy, The Priest, The Woman and the Confessional (BiblioBazaar, 2007): 104:

            Have not the popes publicly and repeatedly anathematized the sacred principle of Liberty of Conscience? Have they not boldly said, in the teeth of the nations of Europe, that Liberty of Conscience must be destroyed – killed at any cost? Has not the whole world heard the sentence of death to liberty coming from the lips of the old man of the Vatican?”

            Catholic Encyclopedia volume 14 (1911): 767-768:

            There is no graver offense than heresy… and therefore it must be rooted out with fire and sword.

            David Hunt, A Woman Rides the Beast (Harvest House, 1994): 126:

            The Constitution of the United States was condemned by the Papacy because it separated church and state and prohibited the establishment of any religion by the government. The popes, on the other hand, had long required governments to make Roman Catholicism the official religion and to prohibit the practice of any other.

            Dr. William P. Grady:

            During a sermon in 1850, [Roman Catholic] Archbishop John Hughes of New York, the nation’s leading Vatican spokesman, acknowledged that a conspiracy to subjugate free America did exist after all. The Catholic press was ecstatic. An excerpt from ‘Shepherd of the Valley’, the official journal of the [Roman Catholic] Bishop of St. Louis, declared, ‘If Catholics ever gain a sufficient numerical majority in this country, religious freedom is at an end. So our enemies say, so we believe.’ [Catholic Archbishop] Hughes’ own paper, the ‘New York Freeman’ brazenly announced, ‘No man has a right to choose his religion.’

            Bill Hughes, The Secret Terrorists (Truth Triumphant Ministries): 138:

            For over 200 years, the goal [of the Jesuits] has been the complete destruction of the United States Constitution…In the religious arena, the goal of the Jesuits is to wipe out any trace of Protestantism and other religions, and to restore worldwide domination by the pope.

            Darryl Eberhart, “The Papacy’s Hatred of Liberty,” Tackling the Tough Topics:

            …the Papacy, despite its “ecumenical rhetoric”, has not changed a bit over the many centuries in the following categories:

            * Its deep hatred of Jews, all independent Bible-believing Christians, Protestants, and Orthodox Christians (as recently as the 1940s we find Roman Catholic Ustashi military units in Croatia, led and urged on by Franciscan priests, monks, and friars, slaughtering from 600,000 to one million innocent Serb Orthodox Christian men, women, elderly, and children – many of the victims being first brutally tortured);
            * Its long-held dream to bring all Christians under its monopolistic, totalitarian, ecclesiastical control;
            * Its long-held dream to head up a totalitarian one-world religious organization; and,
            * Its long-held dream to bring all world leaders – especially those in “Christian” countries – under the temporal power of the pope.

            Charles Chiniquy, a Catholic priest who turned to Protestantism, warns America about these aggressive intentions of the Papacy:

            Those bloody and anti-social laws of Rome, after having covered Europe with ruins, tears and blood, for ten centuries, have crossed the oceans to continue their work of slavery and desolation, blood and tears, ignorance and demoralization, on this continent. Under the mask and name of Democracy, they have raised the standard of rebellion of the South against the North, and caused more than a half million of the most heroic sons of America to fall on the fields of carnage.

            In a very near future, if God does not miraculously prevent it, those laws of dark deeds and blood will cause the prosperity, the rights, the education, and the liberties of this too confident nation, to be buried under a mountain of smoking and bloody ruins. On the top of that mountain, Rome will raise her throne and plant her victorious banners.

            Then she will sing her Te Deums and shout her shouts of joy, as she did, when she heard the lamentations and cries of desolation of the millions of martyrs burning in the five thousand auto-da-fes she had raised in all the capitals and great cities of Europe.v

            • You think this ideology is freedom?

              Is Islam freedom? Is peace? Or as long as u submit there is peace?

              Mosques and Catholic churches are side by side in the middle east. Lots of similarities. Maybe Rome invented Islam?

              https://youtu.be/QCmSBfVXEmA
              Did Catholicism Create Islam? The True Origins of the Islam Revealed | The Islamic Connection

            • Not satanic you say. Now you see how the whole world will see Rome. They will embrace it to get out of the misery. The misery Rome actually brings on the world without notice. You are fooled by the slick writings of Satan’s right hand man.

              The pope calls himself the vicar of Christ. That’s blasphemy. And that is his actual title on his triple crown written in Latin. The numerical value comes out to 666. Also numerous other titles he has also have numerical values of 666. Latin speaking man is one, maybe in Greek.

              The merger of church and state is its model and fascism . This will happen soon in USA the bible says. USA will throw away the constitution.

              The great protestant country, usa, built by the people fleeing the pope and Europe looking for freedom, religious freedom. Will throw it all away and join hands with its enemy the Roman Church. And USA will enforce the papal rule on the world. To show who has authority over you, it will be a question of do you serve God and follow His 7th Day Sabbath or serve the pope and Satan and follow their 1st Day of week Sabbath? Book of Daniel and book of Revelation.

          • (And because their recovery plan being Satanic, is the discussion of our debate, Maplewood, and not the validity of Catholic ideology, then please, I request you state a better one.)

            I think it’s pretty clear from what I have posted above. From The Rerum Novarum through the encyclicals since then, which build on it. The horrors Europe went through. This system is horrible, and like i commented at the top, that #1 Ireland video is the Roman churches ideology in play and will be implemented around the world. PC, your opinion is that this system is good for the world, I respect your opinion, I don’t agree with it. We will all see this play out, and very soon, rapidly.

            Commandments of God or Commandments of men, there are only 2 sides.

            • “Commandments of God or Commandments of men, there are only 2 sides.”

              Exactly.

              This duality of their absolute separation.

              “One of the world’s leading neuroscienctists’, VS Ramachandran highlights how complex the brain / mind correlation can be, especially when constructing ‘free will’ choices. His split brain patient with literally two separated brain hemispheres, are also split in two when it comes to believing in God or not.”
              http://www.themindvoyager.com/research-one-brain-two-minds-one-half-a-believer-and-the-other-not/

              Each brain hemisphere hates the other as evil, unable to exist in either’s world.

              One brain reliant on words and afraid of the power of images; and the other reliant on images and afraid of the power of words.

              The empty Cross; or the filled Cross.

              End Time Prophesy, or Ground Zero over and over again.

              Where is your compassion for such traumatized people?

              The puppet-masters of Priests and Politicians dine off guilt-offerings.

              Women are little lower than men; or the men are little lower than women.

              Which side did you say you were on?

              “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.”
              https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+7:13-14&version=NIV

      • (So now that we have the link to the Rerum Novarum in its entirety, this World-Ending Satanic Masterpiece, Maplewood; please directly quote from it to reveal the evil purpose to which it was intended.)

        Did I say that somewhere? Its a part of their social doctrine that has been built on. Its a piece of the puzzle. Refer to all the articles i posted here, they explain the influence of Rome on the world

        You agreed that it is evil in earlier comment, now you flopped back?

        • I agreed with what the author said about what the Catholic Church was doing, until I read that the author was lying about what the Catholic Church was doing.

          Many Popes were Scoundrels, and I am against totalitarianism because it turns flawed people into perfect monsters. Allowing dictatorships for life. Making people kiss their rings

          But faced with Communism as a greater evil than faking god, by removing god completely; a priest may be the only person who will hide me away and get me out.

          Of fatherhood, a leaky roof is better than no roof at all.

          There are many good-intentioned people who become Catholics and muslims and do not think too deeply about the raging forces behind such kingdoms, those who knife each other at the top. . For them, God is watching, and they will be given the keys to heaven if they stay the course. Tithes for the Church that will hatch, match and dispatch, and add a little magic. Following the rules. Offended if someone blasphemes their Religion. Fight for the Church if threatened.

          Perpetual immaturity. And nothing of the father for any child to inherit except to join in the family business.

            • Lying, by declaring everything that a Catholic does or says, is evil.

              Ergo, the Rerun Novarum is evil because it came out of a Catholic’s mind, and even though it stated clearly that everything we own is our own Private Property, your author said it declared the Pope had argued for the free distribution of such property.

              This is prejudice. A hatred that will not allow the wheat and the tares grown together.

              I contend that from the best of Pope Leo XIII’s ability, there was no malicious intent towards the down-trodden poor he sought his Church to help.

              I may feel physically sick whenever I enter a Catholic church because of the smoke and mirrors used in stealing the seeds of life from a child, by putting them in fear of an imaginary Jesus fighting Satan in the Sky, but I do not condemn those who do not know what they do not know.

              This is their hypnosis. And we are all subject to it until we take the speck out of our own eye.

              John the Baptist’s gospel was to help those who wanted to be set-free -through repentence and letting go of pride in Heaven and Earth. To forgive, so that god forgives them and their yoke to them fades away.

              That is, to walk with every word of god.

              To be more perfect than a Pharisee, as it is to be more perfect than a Catholic. For what they do, is only because it is written on their sleeves. What you do is because it is written in your heart.

              They backslide, because they called a man teacher.

              Men above and men below them.

              That they now call themselves the people of the correct knowledge looking for the signs of things to come.

              So the RERUM NOVARUM May 15 1891
              ENCYCLICAL OF POPE LEO XIII ON CAPITAL AND LABOR, is not evil in any intent. It was not a dastardly plot. It just comes from people seeking salvation as they were taught to believe.

              The care givers compelled to give. Hijacking minds to kiss or kill for Jesus.

              • (Lying, by declaring everything that a Catholic does or says, is evil.)

                That’s a lie, that is not what it says at all. No one has said anything against a catholic here. Only speaking of the system.

                You are being dishonest at best with that comment.

  9. I think PC, you will appreciate the wording of the popes writings. It hurts my head reading it lol. Hard for me to retain it. The encyclicals are tough reading for me. I used that site to get to the point.

    • “Not satanic you say.”

      I had addressed only, the Pope’s Rerum Novarum setting out of the issues for handling the crisis of the Industrial Revolution. This solution was not Socialist as you had stated, because in the event of any Cultural Revolution, Churches would be turned into badminton courts.

      To lie about the truth regarding Socialism, reveals the authors are Anti-Catholic.

      So now, we can start getting to the truth.

      The summoning of the flock, to create associations and assist the poor, can be viewed as benign Christian Charity, or predatory behavior. The wolves among the sheep who convince people into believing they will always be less than Jesus. To conquer their souls without firing a shot. The achievements of low expectations. Baptised into Membership, and not into repentance. Given a new Christian Name. The switch and bait to swear loyalty to a Mother Church as God’s Kingdom on Earth to seal your fate by your own tongue.

      The oath of Shahada, or coming out as proudly imprinted by Nurture over Nature.

      Each received a blessing to avoid a cursing. Loyal to their new masters.

      “Now you see how the whole world will see Rome. They will embrace it to get out of the misery. The misery Rome actually brings on the world without notice.”

      Stones turned into food, in return for submission to their Rescuers.
      https://biblehub.com/matthew/4-3.htm

      “You are fooled by the slick writings of Satan’s right hand man.”

      No. I was just not being fooled by Satan’s left hand man coming to say the right hand was bad and vote for him.

      “The pope calls himself the vicar of Christ. That’s blasphemy.”

      St Paul had called himself “Apostle” and Muhammad had called himself the “Last Prophet” and people as being “other genders.” They have not blasphemed Religion. They have blasphemed their nature of and cut it off. Now all they have left is to wear their breastplates of righteousness according to their Religions.

      The blind need a Priesthood to direct them.

      “…written in Latin. The numerical value comes out to 666”.

      A unhappy co-incidence for the word, for sure.

      “The merger of church and state is its model and fascism.”

      The joining of religion and politics, is Fascism from the Clerics.

      “This will happen soon in USA the bible says. USA will throw away the constitution.”

      Evidence I would like you to link to, please.

      “To show who has authority over you, it will be a question of do you serve God and follow His 7th Day Sabbath or serve the pope and Satan and follow their 1st Day of week Sabbath?”

      Finally, this is what it was all about.

      Thank you. Jesus said the Sabbath was made for Man.
      https://biblehub.com/mark/2-27.htm

      • (I had addressed only, the Pope’s Rerum Novarum setting out of the issues for handling the crisis of the Industrial Revolution. This solution was not Socialist as you had stated, because in the event of any Cultural Revolution, Churches would be turned into badminton courts.)

        The redistribution of goods isnt socialism or communism?
        Rome is the inventor of socialism and communism, fascism, etc. The new capitalism too. Extension of their social doctrine.

        (To lie about the truth regarding Socialism, reveals the authors are Anti-Catholic)

        Now you use communist language tricks to put me or the author in a certain camp. No one is against the people, its the system that’s the problem.

        If you claim the author is anti catholic then by extension you are saying the bible is anti catholic church too. Its actually Rome that is anti god, anti bible, and if you quote the bible, and bring attention to the evil of the church, the church will say its hate speech cause it offends. It seems you will agree with these hate speech laws when it comes to this topic. Which is the reason for these laws.

        (“…written in Latin. The numerical value comes out to 666”.

        A unhappy co-incidence for the word, for sure.)

        Bible predicated it, says it clearly. Another coincidence I don’t think so.

        (“The merger of church and state is its model and fascism.”

        The joining of religion and politics, is Fascism from the Clerics.

        “This will happen soon in USA the bible says. USA will throw away the constitution.”

        Evidence I would like you to link to, please.)

        You haven’t noticed how USA since 9/11 has continued to throw away its constitution? How about with covid? Soon climate change? Next an emergency for war? Religious liberty is one of the last to fall. And the prez is a catholic if that matters at all. Trump stacked the supreme court with Catholics and had CIA guy a catholic too. Doesn’t matter who is in charge.

        I wish I could post pics of the pope meeting with Zelensky and also Putin. That’s where they get their orders from. Same with all world leaders, big tech, big industry, etc. I have posted it all in the past.

      • (“…written in Latin. The numerical value comes out to 666”.

        A unhappy co-incidence for the word, for sure.)

        Helatine Basileia – Greek “the Italian kingdom” =666
        Italika Ekklesia- Greek “Italian church”=666
        Lateinos- Greek ” Latin speaking man” =666

  10. PC, any proof yet water DOESN’T find its own level? This is a 1st for me to have someone disagree with me when I say undisturbed water seeks its own level.

  11. (“This will happen soon in USA the bible says. USA will throw away the constitution.”

    Evidence I would like you to link to, please.)

    America In Bible Prophecy: Who Are The Two Beast of Revelation 13?| Two Beasts Become Friends

    “Since identities of the two beasts in Revelation 13 are a matter of life and death with eternal consequences, it is vital that we understand who these powers are. This exposé of Revelation 13 explains how the beast of the sea and the beast of the earth become friends, culminating in a new system of worship which honors the first beast. Giving clear evidence about the identities and objectives of these political powers, this presentation includes a look at the USA in Bible prophecy and the importance of church and state separation.”

    https://youtu.be/olsYpD0OJKU

  12. Revelations.

    “1 The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place.

    He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John, 2 who testifies to everything he saw—that is, the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ.

    3 Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near.”

    John sending this message out.

    “John,

    To the seven churches in the province of Asia:

    Grace and peace to you from him who is, and who was, and who is to come,

    and from the seven spirits[a] before his throne,

    5 and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth.”

    1. The Spirit of the LORD
    2. The Spirit of wisdom
    3. The Spirit of understanding
    4. The Spirit of counsel
    5. The Spirit of strength
    6. The Spirit of knowledge
    7. The Spirit of the fear of the LORD
    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+11%3A+1-3&version=NIV

    The Father, The Holy Spirit and The Son.

    “To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood, 6 and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father—to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen.”

    To the struggling servants in the persecuted Churches, to be told from The Designer Himself, exactly what is soon going to happen to them, it must have been electrifying.

    Look, he is coming with the clouds,”[b]
    and “every eye will see him,
    even those who pierced him”;
    and all peoples on earth “will mourn because of him.”[c]
    So shall it be! Amen.

    Jesus will soon appear to all the world as He comes to Earth out of the heavens.

    The guys who waited.
    .https://www.imb.org/2018/06/01/what-happened-to-the-seven-churches-of-revelation/

    Their churches have gone.

    “In her latest book, “Revelations: Visions, Prophecy, & Politics in the Book of Revelation,” she says the Book of Revelation was not a Christian book, but a warning issued 90 years after the death of Jesus, from a refugee of war-torn Jerusalem named John of Patmos, that Jewish followers of Jesus better not form a new religion, let alone consort with pagan followers of Christ who dare to eat non-kosher food.”

    “Her contention is that those who pushed for its inclusion in the New Testament, when the New Testament was finally settled in the fourth century, also wanted a way to warn even faithful Christians that those who did not toe the line of orthodoxy would also face an eternity of unimaginable horrors.”
    https://nationalpost.com/holy-post/book-of-revelation-bibles-nightmarish-finale-put-in-scriptures-by-mistake-author

    Patmos’ Cave.
    https://www.patmoschrishotel.com/en/blog/john-of-patmos-cave.html

    Is it disingenuous to assume Priests have abused this text to hook into cash from their followers, Maplewood? That by calling Catholicism, Satanic, it is the pot calling the kettle black?

    • Gematria

      Mark Russell in the reader’s comment about John, the writer of Revelations:

      “As a man who believed that Jesus Christ was the Messiah and would return to liberate Israel from the Romans and rule the world with his followers, he thought that this would happen in the very near future for the simple reason that if he waited much longer there would be nothing left to come back to.

      And this is the message John sought to impart to his fellow believers, only he had to be cagey in how he presented it, as the Romans didn’t really care for predictions of their impending annihilation. So he encoded his message by writing about “Babylon” which his fellow Jews and Christians would recognize as a symbolic reference to Rome, a “pregnant woman” they would acknowledge as Israel, and a Beast which just happened to have a number “666,” which those who knew Hebrew could easily figure out was the numeric equivalent to the full name of the Emperor Nero.”
      https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13003014-revelations

      “The most widely held belief today is that the name of the man that best represents the number of the beast is Nero. The late Dr. Bruce Metzger, an oft-times brilliant NT scholar notes, “The Greek form Neron Caesar written in Hebrew characters (???? ???) is equivalent to 666, whereas the Latin form Nero Caesar (??? ???) is equivalent to 616.”[3] This is often seen as the most compelling argument because it accounts for the 666/616 “textual variant” found within the ancient manuscripts. This would suggest that the difference between 666 and 616 is not a slip of the pen, but rather two different ways of conveying the same information.”
      http://www.thebeggarsblog.com/blog/2016/7/8/666-the-number-of-the-beast-or-is-it-616

      Oh, Nero, and not the Pope?

      • If Nero is true, (616 in Latin)
        Then it looks like you attacked your sister Church.

        Like Sunni murder Shia and vice versa.

        For John came down from Mount Sinai with Jesus the Sacrificial Lamb, and the Catholics were worshipping the Baby Jesus and His Mother, who they called Whore.

        The Prophets vs the Seers.

        History of killing repeating itself.

    • Gematria

      Mark Russell in the reader’s comment about John, the writer of Revelations:

      “As a man who believed that Jesus Christ was the Messiah and would return to liberate Israel from the Romans and rule the world with his followers, he thought that this would happen in the very near future for the simple reason that if he waited much longer there would be nothing left to come back to.

      And this is the message John sought to impart to his fellow believers, only he had to be cagey in how he presented it, as the Romans didn’t really care for predictions of their impending annihilation. So he encoded his message by writing about “Babylon” which his fellow Jews and Christians would recognize as a symbolic reference to Rome, a “pregnant woman” they would acknowledge as Israel, and a Beast which just happened to have a number “666,” which those who knew Hebrew could easily figure out was the numeric equivalent to the full name of the Emperor Nero.”
      https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13003014-revelations

      “The most widely held belief today is that the name of the man that best represents the number of the beast is Nero. The late Dr. Bruce Metzger, an oft-times brilliant NT scholar notes, “The Greek form Neron Caesar written in Hebrew characters (???? ???) is equivalent to 666, whereas the Latin form Nero Caesar (??? ???) is equivalent to 616.”[3] This is often seen as the most compelling argument because it accounts for the 666/616 “textual variant” found within the ancient manuscripts. This would suggest that the difference between 666 and 616 is not a slip of the pen, but rather two different ways of conveying the same information.”
      http://www.thebeggarsblog.com/blog/2016/7/8/666-the-number-of-the-beast-or-is-it-616

      Oh, Nero, and not the Pope?

    • Gematria

      Mark Russell in the reader’s comment about John, the writer of Revelations:

      “As a man who believed that Jesus Christ was the Messiah and would return to liberate Israel from the Romans and rule the world with his followers, he thought that this would happen in the very near future for the simple reason that if he waited much longer there would be nothing left to come back to.

      And this is the message John sought to impart to his fellow believers, only he had to be cagey in how he presented it, as the Romans didn’t really care for predictions of their impending annihilation. So he encoded his message by writing about “Babylon” which his fellow Jews and Christians would recognize as a symbolic reference to Rome, a “pregnant woman” they would acknowledge as Israel, and a Beast which just happened to have a number “666,” which those who knew Hebrew could easily figure out was the numeric equivalent to the full name of the Emperor Nero.”
      https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13003014-revelations

      “The most widely held belief today is that the name of the man that best represents the number of the beast is Nero. The late Dr. Bruce Metzger, an oft-times brilliant NT scholar notes, “The Greek form Neron Caesar written in Hebrew characters (???? ???) is equivalent to 666, whereas the Latin form Nero Caesar (??? ???) is equivalent to 616.”[3] This is often seen as the most compelling argument because it accounts for the 666/616 “textual variant” found within the ancient manuscripts. This would suggest that the difference between 666 and 616 is not a slip of the pen, but rather two different ways of conveying the same information.”
      http://www.thebeggarsblog.com/blog/2016/7/8/666-the-number-of-the-beast-or-is-it-616

      Oh, Nero, and not the Pope?

      • (Oh, Nero, and not the Pope?)

        No, not even close. The bible is so detailed, it leaves no doubts. I’ll do my best to show some of the detail, I’m no expert that’s for sure.

        Nero is not still alive.
        Daniel 7:21-22
        King James Version
        21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;

        22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.

        Nero did not live for 1260 years and slaughter the saints.

        Daniel 7:25
        King James Version
        25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

        Nero didn’t rise up to power after Rome divided into 10 kingdoms, also he didnt remove 3 kings/ kingdoms of those 10 to get to power.

        Daniel 7:8
        King James Version
        8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

        Daniel 7:24
        King James Version
        24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

        The pope thinks to change times and laws. Gregorian calendar is in use, also thinks he changed Gods Sabbath. He blasphemies God by calling himself God on earth.

        Daniel 7:25
        King James Version
        25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

        Everything in the bible quotes above perfectly point to Rome and the pope. Nothing to indicate its Neru. There are a lot more proofs, but i think I made my point here.

        • Daniel 2:9 “If you do not tell me the dream, there is only one penalty for you”

          How did Daniel manage it?.

          “Praise be to the name of God for ever and ever;
          wisdom and power are his.
          21 He changes times and seasons;
          he deposes kings and raises up others.
          He gives wisdom to the wise
          and knowledge to the discerning.
          22 He reveals deep and hidden things;
          he knows what lies in darkness,
          and light dwells with him.
          23 I thank and praise you, God of my ancestors:
          You have given me wisdom and power,
          you have made known to me what we asked of you,
          you have made known to us the dream of the king.””

          Relax, for everything is in its place, and you don’t even have to interpret the dream of an antelope (though they’re obvious) but simply that of another person in their regal position. What was it that Nebuchadnezzar needed to protect?

          His kingdom. A world full of demons.

          (If he believed in Revelations, his demons would then be there with Jesus and his Angels fighting at His Side against the Whore of Babylon).

          Now, most people wake up only remembering fragments of their nightmares and they don’t interconnect them properly. Daniel put himself into Nebuchadnezzar’s same shoes, and then dreamed the same dream. And Daniel could interpret it. And the distressed king was eager to make sense, like a grieving widow at a seance, uncritically drinking it all up.

          But Daniel had to dream first. This is why he begged for more time. There was no instant blinding light of inspiration.

          (Just as I would need more time to read “Revelations” to know of the wildest dreams of Evangelists).

          Investigators puts themselves into the criminal mind, by walking through each crime scene. In this, those unfortunate cold-reader Astrologers of Babylon, had no chance.

          But what about Daniel’s own personal dreams?

          7:28 “This is the end of the matter. I, Daniel, was deeply troubled by my thoughts, and my face turned pale, but I kept the matter to myself.

          At least, he kept his doubts to himself so we never knew.

      • (So he encoded his message by writing about “Babylon” which his fellow Jews and Christians would recognize as a symbolic reference to Rome,)

        Its because it is Babylon. The high priest of Babylon was called Pontifix Maximus. Roman emperor at this time carried the title. Today the pope does. Babylon is father, mother,child worship, sun worship. That is Rome. Also the obelisk in Rome, still many there today. Thats from Babylon, phalic symbol of Nimrods rod. All the sun worship monuments still in Rome today, Rome never changes.

        • “So he encoded his message…”

          John was writing of his time, just as Daniel was interpreting the signs of his age.

          No satellites for the internet, no humans on the moon, and no lagrange points for space telescopes. (I know you believe Satan made these technologies up Maplewood, and Global Positioning Systems must run on a different terrestrial network), but my point is about prophecies:
          They should be clearly obvious in hindsight.

          ‘But they’re not fulfilled yet!’

          And they won’t be. They have to be squished and squinted at, to make them resemble any guesstimation.

          “1) Matthew 1:23 says that Jesus (the messiah) would be called Immanuel, which means “God with us.” Yet no one, not even his parents, call him Immanuel at any point in the bible.

          2) The Messiah must be a physical descendant of David (Romans 1:3 & Acts 2:30). Yet, how could Jesus meet this requirement since his genealogies in Matthew 1 and Luke 3 show he descended from David through Joseph, who was not his natural father because of the Virgin Birth. Hence, this prophecy could not have been fulfilled.

          3) Isaiah 7:16 seems to say that before Jesus had reached the age of maturity, both of the Jewish countries would be destroyed. Yet there is no mention of this prophecy being fulfilled in the New Testament with the coming of Jesus, hence this is another Messiah prophecy not fulfilled.

          Prophecies Christians Use to Verify Jesus as the Messiah, Yet Clearly Fail:

          4) The gospels (especially Matthew 21:4 and John 12:14-15) claim that Jesus fulfills the prophecy of Zechariah 9:9. But the next few verses (Zechariah 9:10-13) show that the person referred to in this verse is a military king that would rule “from sea to sea”. Since Jesus had neither an army nor a kingdom, he could not have fulfilled this prophecy.

          5) Matthew (Matthew 2:17-18) quotes Jeremiah (Jeremiah 31:15), claiming that it was a prophecy of King Herod’s alleged slaughter of the children in and around Bethlehem after the birth of Jesus. But this passage refers to the Babylonian captivity, as is clear by reading the next two verses (Jeremiah 31:16-17), and, thus, has nothing to do with Herod’s massacre.

          6) John 19:33 says that during Jesus’ crucifixion, the soldiers didn’t break his legs because he was already dead. Verse John 19:36 claims that this fulfilled a prophecy: “Not a bone of him shall be broken.” But there is no such prophecy. It is sometimes said that the prophecy appears in Exodus 12:46, Numbers 9:12 & Psalm 34:20. This is not correct. Exodus 12:46 & Numbers 9:12 are not prophecies, they are commandments. The Israelites are told not to break the bones of the Passover lamb, and this is all it is about. And Psalm 34:20 seems to refer to righteous people in general (see verse Psalm 34:19, where a plural is used), not to make a prophecy about a specific person.
          https://www.evilbible.com/do-not-ignore-the-old-testament/jesus-is-a-false-messiah/

          Was Jesus the Promised Messiah of the Jews? Well, the Jews get aong fine without him. I mean, really got along fine without him.

          Because all Jesus’ ministry was, to reach and heal the sick in the House of Israel.
          https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-10-6/

          The hiccup was when this doctor, became Dr Who. The Legend of the Timelord for a fanbase that grew and split and changed their lives to look alike and sound alike. New Ministers with doctorates came to instruct. Awaiting the Last Day when they will be scooped up instantly into Heaven.

          Those in love with their own needly love, and a holding a Guarantee Card of Blessing, while others make a living in the family name.

          ‘Tickets please!’

          Oh, you’ll have to pay for it. There’s a lot of reading and learning to do. We don’t go to you, you come to us. It all happens in the Church. We’ll be in the street to invite you to come along.

          There’ll be a sermon after the music and open prayer. Our unworthiness will show we are worthy. Confession will reveal our trangressions. God will forgive. The crippled will be healed and walk. The spectacle will empower the glory of our Faith.

          So be wise as a servant, and gentle as a dove.
          https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-10-8/

          • Wow, that is a long comment. I have some answers to your questions, but without reading the passages 1st and doing some bible study , it wouldnt be responsible of me to answer. I don’t want to cause confusion. Im not sure if there is another comment in here from you I missed.

            Here are some quotes to go with your bible questions:

            John 17:17 “thy word is truth”

            2 Peter 1:21 “for the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost”

            2 Timothy 3:16 “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness”

            Luke 24:44-45 “These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the pslams, concerning me”

            Why can’t the natural man understand the bible?
            1 Corinthians 2:12-14 “But the natural man receivth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned”

            I will get back to you, it will take some work on my part. I appreciate the questions, it will make me more well rounded in scripture when I find the answers.

  13. (Is it disingenuous to assume Priests have abused this text to hook into cash from their followers, Maplewood? That by calling Catholicism, Satanic, it is the pot calling the kettle black?).

    Priests don’t use this text (Revelation) because it points out that the pope is the Antichrist and Catholicism is the beast who’s mark you do not want to have prior to the plagues and Jesus’ return. So no, they don’t abuse it, they ignore it.

    I think you have a misunderstanding of Catholicism. It seems you think its Christianity. It is paganism. More specifically, Mithraism. So yes it would be satanic, because that is where paganism comes from. So the answer is no, its not “pot calling the kettle black”.

    • Fear for some, is the beginning of wisdom. It is not. It is the beginning of non-critical reasoning. Often buried so deep, and defended to prevent anxiety, that the truth becomes blasphemous and a Hate Crime.

      This insult, of shock-and-awe, set’s the brain to be receptive to then being imprinted by the external imagination.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r03L0NsFmiM

      The mother shouting “there a rat!” with such terror, that the child has a life-long fear of rats and does not know why. This experience is never to be returned to because they have a deep revulsion when it occurs. It is dread.

      The Jesuits knew that if they indoctrinate a child up to the age of seven, they will have a Believer for life.

      Communists and Sexuals dip into prams.

      Dalai Lama are found as babies to be trained.

      The musselman sincerely believes that Mohammed was Good, even when all evidence to the contrary is presented.

      He believes the Moon was split in two because the Bible told him so. In the affairs of humans, it was the kufar and inferior women to blame.

      Pride in their Faith, of the One True God. Stepping off this throne is frightening, the cage is open and they can’t leave, even their sisterhood will kill them. (Those femaled before God).

      Such paralyzed brains have every answer, and can justify that their oath of loyalty deserved the pain of death should they ever abandon Allah. The child blames itself.

      Their yes should have been yes, and their no been no. That’s the line they crossed. Beyond it, Honor now runs from their shame of submission, and a Pride closes the wound.

      Sai Baba of Shirdi begged outside villagers homes and they hated him for it Then he brought more beggars. Until the pressure of intimidation and the strees of their resentment got so much, the flipped and became Born Again. Now they told themselves they were giving to God. It was devotion to the Holy Man.

      The call to ‘repent, for the kingdom of heaven is near,’ is unheeded – for they are all full, and the narrow way to get back to, is too hard.

      To serve their Master, is the easy way. Just follow a few rules about say, what day you take your rest, and what you can and cannot eat. Then instruct your children likewise and tell them hell awaits those who ever dare to chose.

      How then, can Evangelists and Catholics be convinced that they to follow their imagination? The infatuated love of a teenager consumes them. That their Heavenly Structures – devised by Priests – with their Jesus-Gods calling each other out as Satan, can be cured? To be born again. The child returned to their natural state. Wiser that no Theist, Socialist or Deviant can ever again control them with promises or blame and guilt.

      To know, nothing has it.

      • PC: “Nothing has it.”

        Every baby, with no exception, has to learn almost everything to survive.

        They do not decide the version of words that chatter in their heads, how much clarity they hold due to their culture, and neither how much they have imbibed the fears of the demon haunted world.

        They will have to be born again if they are to see through their own eyes once more, and remove the riding-bit between their teeth.

        Maplewood: “The bible is so detailed, it leaves no doubts”.

        Why not then actively save all the innocent Catholics who are in the greatest danger of hellfire? Where was the ‘Apostle to the Pope?’ The Martyr of The True Church, a record of the Holy Spirit in action, whose letters and deeds were turned into Scripture so that all may read them today?

        Because John wrote Revelations two hundred years before Roman Christianity was even started. Forewarned is forearmed. It’s a time machine with spoilers. The First Council at the Church of Nicea in 325AD could have been infiltrated and their vote gone the other way. Christianity and the whole world saved. The Holy of Unholy battles won.

        Why today would a person having followed a book is so detailed, that it left no doubts and no denominations, not go and sell all their possessions and follow it? Short life here, Eternity in Heaven.

        Knock on doors with only the shirt on their back, and if invited in, stay a while with the power and authority to cast out all demons and to heal diseases.
        https://biblehub.com/matthew/10-8.htm

        For the father in them, knows the sly femen of socialism, religion and sexualism for their greed of advancement; and knows the wounds that must be healed.

        The truth sets you free. And the world gnashes its teeth for an invention of Heaven and Earth to hide.

  14. (Why today would a person having followed a book is so detailed, that it left no doubts and no denominations, not go and sell all their possessions and follow it? Short life here, Eternity in Heaven.)

    I do follow it, and have my possessions too.

    “Your lack credible sources of science and religion, seem to have a huge impact on you.
    I hope our discourse has helped. ?”

    • “I do follow it, and have my possessions too”

      Then, this sounds like a hobby. A family and work balance.

      I admire a Pope who wears his uniform every day, and is 100% commited.

      I just couldn’t understand therefore, why you said the Catholic Church is Satanic, because it choses Sunday instead of Saturday and moved Easter so that was not tied to Passover. Making a more international Calender that is easier to use.

      Love is love And Catholics help the sick and poor.

      Most religions had a bloody war against their own heretics, but with them dead, business grew.
      .
      We have both agreed then, that Catholics are not Satanic, (sorry for my assumption that you believed the devil was working through them, whereas I argued they were just hypnotized). There are many freeloaders in most Religions, who try to get along to get along.

      And because Catholics accept the Blood of Jesus will guarantee them a place in Heaven; they will succeed won’t they? Or is there first a standard of eligibility to be met?

      And does God forgives the ignorant? Say a Buddhist and Hindu? Say even baby who cannot think much, or someone with dementia? Or must the baby be circumized, and the dementia sufferer have previously been a Christian, to count in their favor?

      Please, Maplewood, who gets to be Raptured and who doesn’t?

      Will the Churches with a Mother-God be more at home?
      https://wmscog.com/god-the-mother/

  15. Thank you Maplewood for discussing what was fascinating debate about the absolute trust you have with the collection of books that make up the Bible: a seamless journey from Adam and Eve and onwards into our futures, inspired and sealed by God.

    Those who changed the Bible like the Holy Roman Church did – because it claimed for itself an inheritance from St Peter and had used this pretext as an infallible Authority to do so, has pained you, and the traditionalists, hugely.

    This discussion can also found between the Torah-only Jews and the Talmudic oral-tradition Rabbinic Jews.
    http://www.karaite-korner.org/history.shtml

    This is realization from maturing faiths, that they needed to adapt with the times or become relegated back to the Stone Age.

    Pig-derived insulin can have a Rabbinic dispensation, until a newer kosher product can be found. Pragmatism. To save a life when once this would have been forbidden and left to g_d. For who do you trust, Medicine or your Creator? (Familiar argument?).

    The Vatican has a huge resource library and actively pronounces their Catholic-view on the current matters of the day. Cardinal dispensation.

    Now, if only muslims can find a way to debate and modify without being called Satanic…

    A woman had prevented-herself from defining ‘woman,’ because she said she had no biology degree. She will in the future, lose that identity.

    Or if asked to define a Christian, they answered they could not because they did not have a doctorate. She be called heretic when the terms are changed favoring more The Establishment.

    Even Marriage will be slipped from under her feet to mean ‘cohabitating.’

    Every time reply, “go independently to your mother first, and then to your father. Then you will hear the difference between the two.”

    Mother Church and Father Church: Good Works and Faithful Adherence.

    Nurture and Nature.

    Then get back into the real world.

    • I haven’t had time to revisit this and I see I missed a question of yours earlier which I just responded to.

      Yes, the bible being changed has caused confusion and people turning away from God. Probably the worst lie of Rome is that there is a hell and God sends people to burn there for eternity. No wonder people don’t like God when that type of lie about His character is believed.

      In case the last comment I posted didn’t go through, I will have to do some bible study to get the answers to your bible questions. I appreciate the questions, it will make me more well rounded in scripture once I get the answers.

  16. History.

    In this videoed talk, about the New Testament wedding itself to Judaism, 450 AD was stated as the last of the Prophets, and I was reminded about the historical-order of authors.
    https://youtu.be/weXCr2nR7t0

    The 24 books of the T’nach end with 1 Chronicle (29 chapters)
    2 Chronicle (36 chapters). This was altered, to create an “Old Testament.’ Ending with Malachi. (Mal’achi is actually part of book 13, containing the twelve prophets).
    https://mordochai.tripod.com/tanach.html#top

    This alteration of the timeline, like video-editing, can give a completely different impression of events.

    St Paul, Mark, Matthew, Luke and John being other timelines. Matthew and Luke drew from Mark. No virgin birth from St Paul or Mark.

    Some of St Paul’s letters were faked.
    https://www.patheos.com/blogs/keithgiles/2019/03/sorry-christians-our-bible-contains-fake-letters-from-paul-and-peter/

    What we do all have, is the ability to believe our own confirmation bias.
    Who controls the News controls the narrative.

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