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Anyone of any other Muslim Sect are considered to be apostate or ‘murtadeen’ (not really ‘Muslim’) Islam has around 73 different sects remaining in existence, and all of the different sects hate and kill each other and they all make war upon one another because: “They do not believe as we do”. Islamic sects are not simply “denominations” if that word is understood to mean various valid approaches to the same religion.
Members of one Islamic group do not usually recognize members of other groups as valid or true fellow Moslems, and open conflict between sects has been a normal course of practice throughout Islam’s history, Islam has been at war with itself and the entire world since shortly after its founder Mohammad died.
Shi’ites make up the second largest sect in Islam after the Sunni – Islam has more than 73 different sects with each claiming they are the CORRECT one.
They all hate and kill and make war on EACH OTHER!
Are we ready for this kind of thinking in the West? Because this is what Shariah law will bring to us!
Al Qaeda’s Sunni ideology regards Shi’ites as heretics and profoundly distrusts Shi’ite groups like Hezbollah. Al Qaeda is reported to have given Sunni extremists in Iraq the green light to attack Shi’ite civilians and holy sites. An Al Qaeda recruiter in Yemen described the Shi’ites as “dogs and a thorn in the throat of Islam from the beginning of time”.
(For a closer look at the intricate complexity of the Muslim Sectarian ties and infighting, see: “The Enemy of My Enemy Is Still My Enemy”) http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/26haykel.html?_r=0
Understand that the so-called “Radical Moslems” are following the unholy koran to the letter, and that they believe that the so-called ‘Moderate Moslems’ and all those of any other Moslem Sects are just as bad as infidels and that they must be properly “Islamized” or be killed.
They believe the so-called “Moderates” and those of any other Sects are not “Moslem” enough and must be killed!
>>>>>>>>>
1. Within the Sunni, the major divisions are according to the school of Shariah they follow. There are four schools: Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi’i, and Hanbali.
The Turkic peoples are generally Hanafi, the North Africans are generally Maliki, the east Africans, Malaysians, and Indonesians are generally Shafi’i, and the Saudis are Hanbali. (Wahabbi is a branch within the Hanbali School).
2. The Wahabbi don’t like being called Wahabbi. They prefer “Salafi” or “Muwahhidun”. If you have to deal with Saudis, you should probably keep that in mind. (Much like Muslims in general dislike being called “Mohammadans”, which implies they worship Mohammad as Christians worship Christ.)
3. One of the bits of trivia for historians is that the Ismailis, currently led by the Aga Khan, were the sect that produced the medieval Assassins. Yes, those Assassins. Despite video games they no longer do such things, but the connection is there.
As the second bit of trivia, actress and pinup girl Rita Hayworth married one of the Aga Khans in 1948. They had one child before she divorced him three years later when he was seen out with another woman. She refused to raise their daughter as a Muslim.
4. One notable sect is the Ibadi, the last group connected to the Kharijites. (Though they don’t appreciate being connected to that name as above.)
The Kharijites first showed up when the Sunni and Shia were fighting over the split. The Kharijites essentially declared them a plague on both houses and forced them to stop fighting. Naturally, both sides immediately set out to exterminate the Kharijites.
The Ibadi are noteworthy not just for surviving, but because they are the dominant sect in Oman.
5. Finally, the Ikhwan should be noted as a distinct sect within Sunni Islam as well.
The founder’s father was a Hanbali Imam, and the founder, Hassan al-Banna, was an Islamic scholar. While this makes them close to the Salafi in beliefs, it also makes them major political rivals.
The Ikhwan is better known by the English version of their name – the Muslim Brotherhood.
They are the ones that “won” the elections in Egypt before the army reminded everyone who is in charge.
They are the parent group of Hamas and other terrorist groups.
They are the parent group of CAIR and several other Islamic groups operating within the United States, including the Muslim’s “Holy Land Foundation”, which was convicted for sending money to terrorists.
They are connected to the “Blind Sheik”, whose group emerged when the Muslim Brotherhood “renounced” violence. That group, Jamaat al Islamiya, was responsible for the 1993 WTC bombing and the assassination of Meir Kahane. (A Zionist who promoted the expulsion of all Muslims from Israel, Gaza, Judea, and Samaria. He was also the founder of the Jewish Defense League “JDL”.)
They are the “third leg” of the Salafi/Al-Qaeda/Ikhwan Axis of Sunni Islamism currently active. The Salafis trying to convert their way to victory, Al-Qaeda trying to terrorize their way to victory, and the Ikhwan balancing between charity and surgical terror strikes.
Islam has committed more than 30,539 Islamic terrorist attacks around the world since 9/11/2001. (as of 3/31/17). They will NOT stop until all the world is under Muslim control, then they still will be killing each other, because they hate and kill all other Muslim sects, except their own.
Islam has declared an unending war against the entire world, and war against all other Moslems who are not of the same Mozlem sect, all because: “They do not believe as we do”.
How would that work out when we have them warring on each other here in the States?
Just as it works out in Muslim Controlled countries… Constant unrelenting war, sometimes subtle and sometimes overt, but always a constant war.
Ever watch an old movie concerning life among Arab Muslims; one tribe was always raiding the other? That wasn’t just silly old ‘Movie’ BS!
These days they love to blow-up each other’s Mosques.
Due to the mere existence of Islam… there are dead bodies and destruction everywhere, both Muslim and non-Muslim alike! No one can be exempt or safe!
Shouldn’t the Ikhwan be considered more a political than a religious group? Iv’e seen this claim anyway.
Thankyou for your comments, I will be doing some research on it and editing my essay.
I learned a new word!
Takfiri
A takfiri is a Sunni Muslim who accuses another Muslim (or an adherent of another Abrahamic faith) of apostasy. The accusation itself is called takfir, derived from the word kafir (unbeliever), and is described as when “one who is, or claims to be, a Muslim is declared impure.”
From -2:03 to -1:27, credits are shown instead of the interview. Editing error? The timing of the subs is a bit off around -1:27 as well.
DAMN!
That happens sometimes when I import the end sequence. It just PLOPS it in by itself! It looks fine till I export and if I don’t audition the damn thing I dont know it did it before I upload!
“One month after the shooting of Charlie Hebdo editorial staff in 2015 he organised a protest march. Not against the murder of eleven members of the editorial staff, but against insulting cartoons. ’Learn manners’, one banner said.”
[..]
one of two Dutch women who used to live with the Siddiqis during their childhood. They were supposed to receive an Islamic education but they were made to be domestic slaves instead. „The family members called me ’the dirt beneath their feet’, I always had to clean, wasn’t fed properly and was beaten with a baseball bat.”
Even more disturbing is the statement by the sisters that they were systemically sexually abused by Abdulwahab Siddiqi, now deceased, the father of the current sheik Faiz. Faiz, too, couldn’t keep his hands to himself. One of the women stated that Siddiqi senior made her keep quiet about the rape by threatening her with jinns, a kind of Islamic demons. If she were to speak out, they would take revenge. „The jinn would destroy my parents and my future. I was afraid every day. I was eleven years old, I had nowhere to go.”
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Anyone of any other Muslim Sect are considered to be apostate or ‘murtadeen’ (not really ‘Muslim’) Islam has around 73 different sects remaining in existence, and all of the different sects hate and kill each other and they all make war upon one another because: “They do not believe as we do”. Islamic sects are not simply “denominations” if that word is understood to mean various valid approaches to the same religion.
Members of one Islamic group do not usually recognize members of other groups as valid or true fellow Moslems, and open conflict between sects has been a normal course of practice throughout Islam’s history, Islam has been at war with itself and the entire world since shortly after its founder Mohammad died.
Shi’ites make up the second largest sect in Islam after the Sunni – Islam has more than 73 different sects with each claiming they are the CORRECT one.
They all hate and kill and make war on EACH OTHER!
Are we ready for this kind of thinking in the West? Because this is what Shariah law will bring to us!
Al Qaeda’s Sunni ideology regards Shi’ites as heretics and profoundly distrusts Shi’ite groups like Hezbollah. Al Qaeda is reported to have given Sunni extremists in Iraq the green light to attack Shi’ite civilians and holy sites. An Al Qaeda recruiter in Yemen described the Shi’ites as “dogs and a thorn in the throat of Islam from the beginning of time”.
(For a closer look at the intricate complexity of the Muslim Sectarian ties and infighting, see: “The Enemy of My Enemy Is Still My Enemy”) http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/26haykel.html?_r=0
Understand that the so-called “Radical Moslems” are following the unholy koran to the letter, and that they believe that the so-called ‘Moderate Moslems’ and all those of any other Moslem Sects are just as bad as infidels and that they must be properly “Islamized” or be killed.
They believe the so-called “Moderates” and those of any other Sects are not “Moslem” enough and must be killed!
>>>>>>>>>
1. Within the Sunni, the major divisions are according to the school of Shariah they follow. There are four schools: Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi’i, and Hanbali.
The Turkic peoples are generally Hanafi, the North Africans are generally Maliki, the east Africans, Malaysians, and Indonesians are generally Shafi’i, and the Saudis are Hanbali. (Wahabbi is a branch within the Hanbali School).
2. The Wahabbi don’t like being called Wahabbi. They prefer “Salafi” or “Muwahhidun”. If you have to deal with Saudis, you should probably keep that in mind. (Much like Muslims in general dislike being called “Mohammadans”, which implies they worship Mohammad as Christians worship Christ.)
3. One of the bits of trivia for historians is that the Ismailis, currently led by the Aga Khan, were the sect that produced the medieval Assassins. Yes, those Assassins. Despite video games they no longer do such things, but the connection is there.
As the second bit of trivia, actress and pinup girl Rita Hayworth married one of the Aga Khans in 1948. They had one child before she divorced him three years later when he was seen out with another woman. She refused to raise their daughter as a Muslim.
4. One notable sect is the Ibadi, the last group connected to the Kharijites. (Though they don’t appreciate being connected to that name as above.)
The Kharijites first showed up when the Sunni and Shia were fighting over the split. The Kharijites essentially declared them a plague on both houses and forced them to stop fighting. Naturally, both sides immediately set out to exterminate the Kharijites.
The Ibadi are noteworthy not just for surviving, but because they are the dominant sect in Oman.
5. Finally, the Ikhwan should be noted as a distinct sect within Sunni Islam as well.
The founder’s father was a Hanbali Imam, and the founder, Hassan al-Banna, was an Islamic scholar. While this makes them close to the Salafi in beliefs, it also makes them major political rivals.
The Ikhwan is better known by the English version of their name – the Muslim Brotherhood.
They are the ones that “won” the elections in Egypt before the army reminded everyone who is in charge.
They are the parent group of Hamas and other terrorist groups.
They are the parent group of CAIR and several other Islamic groups operating within the United States, including the Muslim’s “Holy Land Foundation”, which was convicted for sending money to terrorists.
They are connected to the “Blind Sheik”, whose group emerged when the Muslim Brotherhood “renounced” violence. That group, Jamaat al Islamiya, was responsible for the 1993 WTC bombing and the assassination of Meir Kahane. (A Zionist who promoted the expulsion of all Muslims from Israel, Gaza, Judea, and Samaria. He was also the founder of the Jewish Defense League “JDL”.)
They are the “third leg” of the Salafi/Al-Qaeda/Ikhwan Axis of Sunni Islamism currently active. The Salafis trying to convert their way to victory, Al-Qaeda trying to terrorize their way to victory, and the Ikhwan balancing between charity and surgical terror strikes.
Islam has committed more than 30,539 Islamic terrorist attacks around the world since 9/11/2001. (as of 3/31/17). They will NOT stop until all the world is under Muslim control, then they still will be killing each other, because they hate and kill all other Muslim sects, except their own.
Get the latest update to Islamic the Terrorist carnage and terror attacks since Sept 11, 2011, at http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
Islam has declared an unending war against the entire world, and war against all other Moslems who are not of the same Mozlem sect, all because: “They do not believe as we do”.
How would that work out when we have them warring on each other here in the States?
Just as it works out in Muslim Controlled countries… Constant unrelenting war, sometimes subtle and sometimes overt, but always a constant war.
Ever watch an old movie concerning life among Arab Muslims; one tribe was always raiding the other? That wasn’t just silly old ‘Movie’ BS!
These days they love to blow-up each other’s Mosques.
Due to the mere existence of Islam… there are dead bodies and destruction everywhere, both Muslim and non-Muslim alike! No one can be exempt or safe!
Thanks for the interesting info. I was not aware that successors to the Khajirites were still around. Khajirites are considered the original takfiri, so that’s basically a slur in islam. I’ve seen ISIS compared to them (to discredit?).
Algerian Berbers (Amazigh) are Ibadi, while the Arabs there are Maliki, which seems to contribute to tensions between those groups:
http://www.amazigh.nl/over-de-amazigh/bekende-imazighen/imazighen-politiek/religious-violence-and-the-cultural-alienation-of-north-african-youth/
Shouldn’t the Ikhwan be considered more a political than a religious group? Iv’e seen this claim anyway.
Thankyou for your comments, I will be doing some research on it and editing my essay.
I learned a new word!
Takfiri
A takfiri is a Sunni Muslim who accuses another Muslim (or an adherent of another Abrahamic faith) of apostasy. The accusation itself is called takfir, derived from the word kafir (unbeliever), and is described as when “one who is, or claims to be, a Muslim is declared impure.”
Get the latest update to Islamic the Terrorist carnage and terror attacks since Sept 11, 2011, at https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=Last30
Thank you pineapplefish56!!!
From -2:03 to -1:27, credits are shown instead of the interview. Editing error? The timing of the subs is a bit off around -1:27 as well.
DAMN!
That happens sometimes when I import the end sequence. It just PLOPS it in by itself! It looks fine till I export and if I don’t audition the damn thing I dont know it did it before I upload!
THANKS for catching that Ill re do it
New version nearly ready
The British-Pakistani cult mentioned in the video is the Hijaz-group, led by Faiz ul Aqtab Siddiqi. He runs a sharia court in the UK, and wants to establish one in the Netherlands:
https://www.telegraaf.nl/nieuws/1369560/in-the-grip-of-the-sheik
“One month after the shooting of Charlie Hebdo editorial staff in 2015 he organised a protest march. Not against the murder of eleven members of the editorial staff, but against insulting cartoons. ’Learn manners’, one banner said.”
[..]
one of two Dutch women who used to live with the Siddiqis during their childhood. They were supposed to receive an Islamic education but they were made to be domestic slaves instead. „The family members called me ’the dirt beneath their feet’, I always had to clean, wasn’t fed properly and was beaten with a baseball bat.”
Even more disturbing is the statement by the sisters that they were systemically sexually abused by Abdulwahab Siddiqi, now deceased, the father of the current sheik Faiz. Faiz, too, couldn’t keep his hands to himself. One of the women stated that Siddiqi senior made her keep quiet about the rape by threatening her with jinns, a kind of Islamic demons. If she were to speak out, they would take revenge. „The jinn would destroy my parents and my future. I was afraid every day. I was eleven years old, I had nowhere to go.”