4 Replies to “Some refreshingly frank talk with Gaad Saad and Douglas Murray on Islam and the future”
No there won’t be a soft landing, the leftist politicians have seen to that.
Mass immigration is the problem and the left by their stupidity is forcing a nasty hard violent solution when they could have limited immigration and insisted on assimilation a long time ago.
At the end Murray describes – I think – what Eeyore’s said about why he devoted himself to issue, this website.
If we – classical liberals – don’t stop This Thing, then the real hard right – fascist monsters – will inevitably take over. Then we’re all damned.
“Now Abel kept flocks, and Cain worked the soil. In the course of time Cain brought some of the fruits of the soil as an offering to the Lord. And Abel also brought an offering—fat portions from some of the firstborn of his flock. The Lord looked with favor on Abel and his offering, but on Cain and his offering he did not look with favor. So Cain was very angry, and his face was downcast.
Then the Lord said to Cain, “Why are you angry? Why is your face downcast? If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you must rule over it.”
Now Cain said to his brother Abel, “Let’s go out to the field.” While they were in the field, Cain attacked his brother Abel and killed him.”
Now, in today’s abundance of excess calories, fat is the considered the very worst cut, but in those lean days it was the finest. And like honey, fat is a wondrous storehouse of nutrients; but again, with today’s cruel industrial farming, it is the storehouse of toxins.
Therefore, the first paragraph set the stage, that Abel gave of his very best, and Cain just gave his tax. So G-d rejected his gift.
The second paragraph revealed that Cain had a vain ego.
The third paragraph: Cain killed Abel.
This is the division between all people in the world. The prideful and quick receivers of Identity because they are naked; and the transparent open-hearted.
What will be their fate?
“The Lord said, “What have you done? Listen! Your brother’s blood cries out to me from the ground. Now you are under a curse and driven from the ground, which opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand. When you work the ground, it will no longer yield its crops for you. You will be a restless wanderer on the earth.””
So the Cains cannot successfully run an honest business. They wander the earth looking for opportunities to exploit with division, hate and envy.
In reality, what’s being discussed here is a superannuated topic that has, once again, been trotted out as something novel. Essentially, it’s the proverbial, “old wine in a new bottle“.
At least a decade ago, there already was talk about “donor fatigue”, especially with respect to the endless beseeching by “Palestinians” for financial donations to continually rebuild homes and apartment blocks in Gaza Strip that rightfully had been demolished by the IDF after sniper attacks and Qassam rockets were launched from those sites.
[Captain] What we’ve got here is failure to communicate, merely another form of Muslim Fatigue.
With that sole caveat aside, Gaad Saad and Douglas Murray both deserve immense credit for expanding this tiresome trope in order to include, Islam Fatigue. Murray eloquently embroiders upon this weariness by alluding to Islam’s figurative role as, “the slowest kid in the class”. Even were that not the case ten years ago, it’s now true today and the global community is full well sick-and-tired of pulling up Islam’s diaperssocks.
Equally worthy of praise is how Saad and Murray make crystal clear that, when all is said and done, any “Soft Landing” for Islam has been deleted from this world’s list of meaningful future options. More than any other single meme, succinctly encapsulating the notion that—with respect to halting global jihad—Islam has actively precluded every last possibility of nonviolent resolution stands alone as a last and final message to the ummah. All subsequent communications are mere window dressing.
Even if, by some remote chance, there remains an overlooked or previously non-obvious way of avoiding this looming catastrophe, it is far better for this world’s Muslim population to believe that—between their own damning complacency and persistent, hardcore jihadist intransigence—they face an existential threat. Smart pro-Western propagandists will couch this peril in terms that exhort Muslim sects to liquidate their jihadist factions rather than inviting annihilation at the hands of constantly provoked and thoroughly enraged kuffar.
However difficult it may be to get most Western (especially EU) politicians to blurt out these sort of unequivocal pronouncements, the more often that brave people like Gaad Saad and Douglas Murray give such ideas topical currency within the media, the less chance or excuse there is for such mealymouthed apparatchiks to pretend that no presentable language exists with which to define these exigent circumstances.
There is no chance aspect about the similarity of conditions involved. These snickering termites are forced to confront their mortality, no matter how uncomfortable it becomes for increasingly evasive Muslims or their exonerative politicians to admit it. Just like Saad and Murray’s explicit language; as the counterjihad steadily removes excuses, ambiguities, or opportunities to insist that there remain viable problem-solving tools; so does it explicitly prohibit all hope for the chances of Islam having any “Soft Landing” … much less any opportunity to pretend that putting a permanent end to global jihad has anything but a happy ending.
Thank you so much, Gaad Saad and Douglas Murray.
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No there won’t be a soft landing, the leftist politicians have seen to that.
Mass immigration is the problem and the left by their stupidity is forcing a nasty hard violent solution when they could have limited immigration and insisted on assimilation a long time ago.
At the end Murray describes – I think – what Eeyore’s said about why he devoted himself to issue, this website.
If we – classical liberals – don’t stop This Thing, then the real hard right – fascist monsters – will inevitably take over. Then we’re all damned.
“Now Abel kept flocks, and Cain worked the soil. In the course of time Cain brought some of the fruits of the soil as an offering to the Lord. And Abel also brought an offering—fat portions from some of the firstborn of his flock. The Lord looked with favor on Abel and his offering, but on Cain and his offering he did not look with favor. So Cain was very angry, and his face was downcast.
Then the Lord said to Cain, “Why are you angry? Why is your face downcast? If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you must rule over it.”
Now Cain said to his brother Abel, “Let’s go out to the field.” While they were in the field, Cain attacked his brother Abel and killed him.”
Now, in today’s abundance of excess calories, fat is the considered the very worst cut, but in those lean days it was the finest. And like honey, fat is a wondrous storehouse of nutrients; but again, with today’s cruel industrial farming, it is the storehouse of toxins.
Therefore, the first paragraph set the stage, that Abel gave of his very best, and Cain just gave his tax. So G-d rejected his gift.
The second paragraph revealed that Cain had a vain ego.
The third paragraph: Cain killed Abel.
This is the division between all people in the world. The prideful and quick receivers of Identity because they are naked; and the transparent open-hearted.
What will be their fate?
“The Lord said, “What have you done? Listen! Your brother’s blood cries out to me from the ground. Now you are under a curse and driven from the ground, which opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand. When you work the ground, it will no longer yield its crops for you. You will be a restless wanderer on the earth.””
So the Cains cannot successfully run an honest business. They wander the earth looking for opportunities to exploit with division, hate and envy.
For those who can’t find to eat and swallow any food in this, they can chew on it forever here, to look at least as though they’re about to:
Part 1
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0505/fohrman_cain_abel.php3
Part 2
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0605/fohrman_cain_abel2.php3
In reality, what’s being discussed here is a superannuated topic that has, once again, been trotted out as something novel. Essentially, it’s the proverbial, “old wine in a new bottle“.
At least a decade ago, there already was talk about “donor fatigue”, especially with respect to the endless beseeching by “Palestinians” for financial donations to continually rebuild homes and apartment blocks in Gaza Strip that rightfully had been demolished by the IDF after sniper attacks and Qassam rockets were launched from those sites.
[Captain] What we’ve got here is
failure to communicate, merely another form of Muslim Fatigue.With that sole caveat aside, Gaad Saad and Douglas Murray both deserve immense credit for expanding this tiresome trope in order to include, Islam Fatigue. Murray eloquently embroiders upon this weariness by alluding to Islam’s figurative role as, “the slowest kid in the class”. Even were that not the case ten years ago, it’s now true today and the global community is full well sick-and-tired of pulling up Islam’s
diaperssocks.Equally worthy of praise is how Saad and Murray make crystal clear that, when all is said and done, any “Soft Landing” for Islam has been deleted from this world’s list of meaningful future options. More than any other single meme, succinctly encapsulating the notion that—with respect to halting global jihad—Islam has actively precluded every last possibility of nonviolent resolution stands alone as a last and final message to the ummah. All subsequent communications are mere window dressing.
Even if, by some remote chance, there remains an overlooked or previously non-obvious way of avoiding this looming catastrophe, it is far better for this world’s Muslim population to believe that—between their own damning complacency and persistent, hardcore jihadist intransigence—they face an existential threat. Smart pro-Western propagandists will couch this peril in terms that exhort Muslim sects to liquidate their jihadist factions rather than inviting annihilation at the hands of constantly provoked and thoroughly enraged kuffar.
However difficult it may be to get most Western (especially EU) politicians to blurt out these sort of unequivocal pronouncements, the more often that brave people like Gaad Saad and Douglas Murray give such ideas topical currency within the media, the less chance or excuse there is for such mealymouthed apparatchiks to pretend that no presentable language exists with which to define these exigent circumstances.
There is no chance aspect about the similarity of conditions involved. These snickering termites are forced to confront their mortality, no matter how uncomfortable it becomes for increasingly evasive Muslims or their exonerative politicians to admit it. Just like Saad and Murray’s explicit language; as the counterjihad steadily removes excuses, ambiguities, or opportunities to insist that there remain viable problem-solving tools; so does it explicitly prohibit all hope for the chances of Islam having any “Soft Landing” … much less any opportunity to pretend that putting a permanent end to global jihad has anything but a happy ending.
Thank you so much, Gaad Saad and Douglas Murray.