(Update at bottom of post)
Also, since posting this, some rather revealing news about what certainly appears to be this guy have been placed in the comments. For all interested, please click the links offered by the commenters. See if they fit the thesis of this post.
(It is larger there, might be easier to read the titles at the MEMRI link)
This is a fascinating clip. Please watch it all the way through before passing any kind of judgment. One of the first curious things I noticed, was an odd sense of suspicion about this imam because early on I noticed he was using reason. Something which is anathema to islam overall.
A few times this site has alluded to the ‘wedge strategy’ and even spoken about what I call, ‘Government imams’. I would suggest this is one of them.
A one on one debate between this man and Robert Spencer would be one for the books although I believe I have seen something like it before, where Robert is arguing for the demonstrably true nature of islam using reason, islamic scripture and islamic history, against an imam who is trying to retroactively rewrite the islamic narrative in order to achieve an outcome most of us would agree with.
I would love it if this worked. But it won’t, it can’t and frankly I think this contributes to motivating young cultural muslims and other young people to join up with the jihadis because of the moral outrage when it is discovered that governments and government sponsored mosques and imams, (not saying this one is but betting it is) are discovered to be exactly that, peddling an acceptable version of islam, easily discoverable to be untrue by even a cursory look at the scripture and facts. For example abrogation is in the koran itself. While this imam does an admirable job of trying to undo the horrific and incalculable damage the concept has done to humanity and the world, it remains right there in the koran clear as day.
I look forward to the comments on this one.
Thanks to a commenter, ‘Just a thought’, it would appear that someone who looks very similar and who’s name is the same except the last part of it has been changed to ‘From Egypt’ (Al Masry) may have been in the news before where a woman who rebuked his offer to make her his 4th wife or temporary whore annoyed him so much he called her a Jew.
Article here from the New York Post
Do have a look. If it is indeed the same man it demands a few answers and raises a few questions, not the least o which is if indeed he is on the payroll to sell the Obama-Cameron narrative.
Thanks GoV and Just a Thought
The hostility muslims are encountering in their daily lives is having an effect. Some of them are begining to recognize where the train of their destruction is heading. Fear is seeping into the hearts of Western muslim populations, those that protect them are openly mocked and ridiculed by the average Westerner. Storm is on the horizon, it is going to wash the filth away.
Unbelievably frank speech coming from a Muslim cleric.
I predict, this brave man will die at the hand or some Muslim jihadi.
Islam purges all who present thoughts similar to what he is saying.
With great sadness, I agree.
Yes, he is presenting shirk, the belief that Allah is not a Jealous God.
We will have to wait for a story about the Mardi coming to Earth to teach them to love Allah with all their heart mind and soul, and the second commandment is somehow like it (but only in you understand god is in everything), love your neighbor as yourself.
The Jewish scripture demanded their messiah be preceded by Elijah, so the teacher of Jesus to find freedom of conscience, John the Baptist became that figure, though nothing remotely like him in killing those who had another god. The long and the short of it, it managed to temper and modify Semitic behavior towards each other’s sects; until the Romans got their hands on it and turned into a Roman Cult that kept people happy as working in their place slaves. (See Socialism).
Islamic literature says Jesus will return to prepare the way for the Mardi, and as there is no Christian leader you can remotely put that moniker on, so again, it might best to be written as a story, and propagated as real, about a normal man in extraordinarily cruel circumstances of mindset and cultural conditioning to protect the cognitive, emotional and bodily health of children today.
What a terrible thing to have done to Jesus!
Good thing for them He taught His followers to turn the other cheek.
rotten, awful, ugly
The people who say Islam worships the same God should read this.
Eeyore has a picture of Allah-ha – I can’t find the link. I thought he was just Moh’s imaginary friend. To this I can relate, imaginary friends are the Greatest.
But the picture is pretty convincing, photo-chop.
~~ Allah looks exactly like a sock-puppet! ~~
Just tell him the feeling is mutual…
Is the Imam of Oulel-Albab mosque in Brooklyn “Tareq Yousef Al Masri?” or is he “Tareq Yousef Hassan Saleh?” Are they one and the same, or are there 2 Imams of that mosque?
The reason I ask is because if Dr. Jekyll (Al Masri) is also Mr. Hyde (Hassan Saleh), then the whole “moderate” narrative comes crashing down.
Al Marsi just means from Egypt. So we need to know if this first guy is from Egypt. It would be highly amusing if they are the same guy. Would add weight to my thesis that he is a paid imam selling the Obama-Cameron wedge ploy.
Tarek Youssef Hassan Saleh v 5th Ave. Kings Fruit & Vegetables Corp
[…]The plaintiff alleged defamation, intentional infliction of emotional distress, prima facie tort, and tortious interference with contractual relations and prospective business relationships with respect to all defendants
[…]The Supreme Court also properly granted the defendants’ cross motion for summary judgment dismissing the amended complaint insofar as asserted against them.
Tarek Youssef Hassan Saleh, etc., appellant, v. New York Post, et al., respondents.
The plaintiff commenced this action, inter alia, to recover damages for defamation. ? In an amended complaint, he alleged, among other things, that the defendants published a false and defamatory newspaper article (hereinafter the article) describing his involvement in a separate defamation action in which he, and several other parties, had been named as defendants. ? He identified 13 statements in the article as being false and defamatory in nature, including the headline and the photo caption.
[…]Here, the Supreme Court properly determined that the defendants submitted documentary evidence conclusively establishing, as a matter law, that the first, second, third, fourth, sixth, seventh, and ninth challenged statements were privileged pursuant to Civil Rights Law §?74. ? Contrary to the plaintiff’s contention, the fact that the article omitted certain information that was contained in the complaint of the separate defamation action did not alter the substantially accurate character of the article
Hassan Saleh v. Holder
Tarek Youssef Hassan Saleh v. New York United States Citizenship & Immigration Services, Department of Homeland Security and Eric Holder
Your thesis sounds plausible to me.
As to whether Hasan Saleh is Egyption, his erstwhile sweetie alleges that he “threaten[ed] her with death by “honor killing” if she ever visits her family in Egypt. “ I’m going to guess that since she’s Egyptian, she would have been more likely to dated an Egyptian than not.
Also, that little episode would certainly give him motive to change his name.
I have yet to see any authentic moderate activists who are sane and still Muslim. (I’ve seen a few seemingly decent Muslims who could be called moderate and even sane, but they aren’t activists.)
At first I thought this guy was being sneaky in some way, but then I started getting what he was saying. He gave a detailed scholarly explanation, compete with names and dates, of the genesis of the radical Muslim problem that is plaguing the world at this very moment. I have never seen such passion in my life; the hair was standing up on the back of my neck. And Bob’s right. The guy probably has a thousand armed Salafists making tracks for his front door as we speak.
This guy is backing up what Egyptian President Abdel al-Sisi is saying about the urgent need for change in Islam. This should be the cover story on every network on earth. He is clearly expressing the right side of the only truly important argument of our time… He openly challenged the Revelation of Abrogation!
And if he talked to Robert Spencer, I think he would say, “Merry Christmas, Bob.”.
And mean it.
Hmmm was denied his green card for connection with Muslim brotherhood, how did he stay?
Also sued the NY Post for defamation:
“He’s crazy,” he said of the imam. “He says he’s a holy man, but it’s just a cover to go after women.”
Perhaps all the brotherly-love talk is his latest idea for getting girls.
Another on the incident with the “weeping and cursed Jewish woman” (what he allegedly called her)…
And this from April 2009 in which he seems to make sense…
Not entirely sure what to make of this guy, other than he has a talent for getting into compromising situations, and has a knack for saying what we might like to hear.
Ok, last for now. Waiting to see what others add.
Actually, I seem to remember reading a number of Hadiths in which they checked to make sure the guy wasn’t crazy before they chopped off his hands or whatever. But then, who can say what they used to do with crazy guys…
Unfortunately this man will have very little influence in the Muslim community. I think he should be supported and protected as this will encourage others like him to speak out. However , in the long run , we will probably have to take some quite ugly measures to defend our civilization.
“al-maSri” means, literally, “the Egyptian.” And yes, he is Egyptian. You can hear it in his accent. He pronounces the letter ? like a G.
This website won’t handle Unicode. I meant to say “He pronounces the letter Jeem (http://www.charbase.com/images/glyph/1580) like a G.”