So glad somebody noticed.
From The Morningstar Online:
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EmailThe new head of police domestic extremist units was condemned today after denying that the English Defence League was a right-wing extremist group.
Detective Chief Superintendent Adrian Tudway, who took over the role of national co-ordinator for domestic extremism last week, claimed police had to walk a “tightrope” when targeting small groups which they believe are bent on violence.
Senior officers have gone on the offensive following the student protests and the resulting occupation of 30 Millbank two weeks ago, saying that more resources are being invested in identifying potential “flashpoints of disorder.”
Mr Tudway said his officers were focusing on the “fringe” where protest “spills over” into violence and disorder.
His comments came on the eve of tomorrow’s wave of protests against rising university fees.
The National Public Order Intelligence Unit, National Domestic Extremism team and National Extremism Tactical Co-ordination Unit employ about 100 people with a budget of £8.1 million.
The police units, which are set to be integrated into the Met Police under a rebranding exercise, have come under fire for using intrusive surveillance tactics to identify hundreds of people who have attended protests and then sharing the information with other forces.
However Mr Tudway insisted that intelligence officials do not examine the work of trade or student unions and went on to say that the EDL was not an extreme right-wing group.
“The present particular challenge to us, constitutionally, is they are not extreme right-wing organisations,” he said.
“On the one hand, they are seen by many as the single biggest threat to community cohesion in the UK, but they are most certainly not extreme right-wing organisations.”
Communist Party of Britain general secretary Rob Griffiths said that “nobody should be fooled” by the claim that the police to not monitor trade unions and student groups.
“It is well known from recent history that the intelligence services disrupt trade unions and the peace movement by targeting socialist and communist activists within them and making this the excuse for spreading the net across the whole organisation,” he said.
“If he does not know the fascist affiliations of leading and founder members of the English Defence League then we should club together and buy him a subscription to Searchlight magazine, where he would find these links set out in fine detail.”
Are the Brits changing their minds about the EDL?
I think if “far right” has any meaning at all it would mean a combination of extreme hostility toward the government, deep antisemitism, fondness for Adolph Hitler, and a belief in white supremacy. Is that about it? Maybe Detective Chief Superintendent Adrian Tudway didn’t think the EDL fit that description and simply called it like he saw it. Every top official isn’t necessarily a spineless political weasel, I guess… The truth is said to be the best debating tool. Sometimes it does just sort of sit there and quack.
Hitler was a big government man, in fact he was a Marxist, in fact the Fascist who started that party said they were going to create a Marxism that works. As far as the anti-Semitism I have seen a lot of leftist who were anti-Semites but very few on the right, of course I include the KKK on the left since they want to be the bosses and not let anyone else have any rights. I know it is confusing on just who is a member of the far right, the left has spent a lot of time and money confusing the issue because they don’t want us to think anyone on the left is dangerous.
Richard:
It is confusing, isn’t it. I mean, being violently anti-government doesn’t necessarily make you far right. Ronald Reagan was right-wing, but he wasn’t anti-semitic, and I don’t think he was a fan of Adolph Hitler. Timothy McVeigh, I suppose, is the kind of far-right we’re looking for. Have you ever read The Turner Diaries? That’s what Tim had in his car, and I believe that someone who thought that book was non-fiction might just blow up a government building, especially if he thought there were a lot of black government workers in there. But, I’ll tell you, to lump Winston Churchill, Maggie Thatcher, and Geert Wilders together with some farm boy who got brainwashed by Dr Pierce’s really evil hate-novel, is a huge stretch. I don’t even know if their is an extreme right, at least one with large enough numbers and enough purpose to do much harm. I’m picturing a couple of really fat guys with armbands and a flag, cowering against the protesters as the police escort them to their Taurus. Oh, but they want the EDL to be extreme right-wing, don’t they. They want this whole Muslim thing to boil down to nothing more than a handful of narrow-minded white men making trouble for the Innocent Muslims because, hey, that’s just what white men do. They want it to be one way, but it’s the other way.
Timothy McVeigh, wasn’t what I would call far right, and if you ignore the conspiracy theory aspects there is some evidence that he was hired but Iraqi intelligence to do the bombing. I know it sounds crazy and I ignored that theory until one night when I had insomnia and was looking for something stupid to read so I could go to sleep. The most telling things is that he was broke and his bombs wouldn’t work then suddenly he had enough money to go to the Philippines and stay in the same hotel as the man who made the bomb for the first Trade Center attack, he came back home after about a week and then his bombs worked.
Also the KKK is not really a part of the far right, they are further right then the Socialist and possibly then the Fascist but they are still more big government then they are small government. They want small government and freedom for themselves and their friends and want to be able to boss around the rest of us.
The KKK was part of the FDR New Deal Coalition. They were social reformers who used the power of government to redistribute wealth for the benefit of their particular group/race (and others). Their modern equivalent is the NAACP.
That is a very good description of them, they get along with the American Nazi party, and loved Hitler, their original agenda was to prevent the blacks from taking over the south after the civil war, and they rarely used violence, preferring to use mind games. After reconstruction was over the good people left the Klan and the Alpha Hotels took over, the Klan has been getting worse ever since.