Islamic Sophistry: probably the worst reason we are losing civilization

Not long after the invention of the modern Internet and tools like search engines and YouTube became practical, it occurred to me that schools should probably be eliminated more or less altogether and replaced with teaching children up to about the age of 14, the use of logic, reason, and determining the value and validity of information and then cutting them loose to learn on their own from materials online.

As the educational system becomes more and more captured by enemies of civilization, that idea is more and more appealing. Trump was right to eliminate the Dept. of Education, if indeed he did, and as Stephen Coughlin asserts, Ronald Raegan’s greatest failure was not keeping his promise to eliminate the dept. of education. In Canada at this point we fully replaced education with indoctrination.

The clip below is from 2012 and is a phenomenal example of Islamic sophistry. I posted it to the VTB Substack and asked people to treat it like a game and point out some of the fallacies he used. I will post the responses so far, which are very good, under the video. First my text:

For anyone who may have read G. K, Chesterton’s stellar work on the Islamic dominance of Great Britain in 1914, yes 111 years ago, they would have noticed Chesterton’s phenomenal grasp of Islamic sophistry. The kind of pretzel logic Muslims often use to sell the unsellable to the rationally challenged.

This video is so chock-a-block full of logical fallacy one could make a board game out of it. ‘See how many you can spot’ sort of thing.

I’ll start you off with a few examples. But see if you can pick off any yourselves and put them in the comments.

This example may not exactly be sophistry but it certainly speaks to classic Islamic deception.

The imam claims that both men and women would be stoned to death for the crime of adultery, and therefore, it is equal rights for men and women in a manner of fashion.

But men can have 4 wives and take as many infidel sex slaves as he wants and would not be guilty of adultery, whereas a woman who has any form of sex whatsoever with anyone not the designated husband (I say designated husband because quite often in Islam, marriage is forced on women) is guilty of this capital offence.

So the statement is in itself ludicrous. Personally I am not aware of any situation in which a man was killed by any means for adultery under sharia law. But one might see a situation where had he had sex, voluntary or rape of a Muslim woman, he could be considered guilty, however in Islam, the woman is always to blame for tempting the man.

More the pity the panel debating this Imam had no clue about any of the actual epistemology of Islam as a whole.

See how many you can catch. There are a lot. Would love to read your observations in the comments.

One great answer:

There is no equivalence between male circumcision & female genital mutilation. There is no equivalence between stoning a woman for adultery & capital punishment for murder. Treason is a crime against a country’s govt. How is leaving Islamic religion (apostasy) worthy of death? Islam is licensed sadism. Mohammed is considered the perfect example for Islamic life. His ways of murder & abuse of women & children are mirroring a devil’s ways. Islam is the result of a pirate’s dream to rob & conquer others until the entire world is under his boot.

Jesus Christ said to love God with all your heart, soul, mind, & strength. And to love your neighbor as yourself. Those two commandments fulfill all the laws of the Old Testament & the prophets.

I would ask people who happen across this post to play along. Leave a comment pointing out a logical fallacy this man uses when trying to justify Islamic sharia to the ‘infidel’. It’s a game the whole family should be able to play. it’s fun, challenging and mostly, it is existentially important that we can and do play it.

As a post script: The left also depends on sophistry. We have a word we use too often to describe it.

 

About Eeyore

Canadian artist and counter-jihad and freedom of speech activist as well as devout Schrödinger's catholic

5 Replies to “Islamic Sophistry: probably the worst reason we are losing civilization”

  1. ISLAM IS GREAT IF YOURE A MAN..
    IT ONLY WORKS IF YOURE NOT A WOMAN.
    MY BIGGEST QUESTION HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO THE WOMAN..
    IF YOURE TRULY FLEEING TO THE WEST FOR FREEDOM AND A BETTER LIFE, WHY DO YOU REMAIN MARRIED TO AN ISLAMIC MAN?
    AND TO THE WESTERN COUNTRIES WHY ARE YOU ALLOWING MEN FROM ISLAM TO BEAT THEIR WIVES WHILE YOU JAIL YOUR OWN ACTUAL CITIZENS FOR THAT SAME ACTIVITY?
    AND FINALLY TO ALL THE EQUAL RIGHTS GROUPS WHY DO YOU REMAIN SILENT?
    ONLY THE JEW AND THE CHRISTIAN SPEAK OUT..
    DOES EVERYBODY ELSE REALLY BELIEVE THEY WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM ISLAMIC TERROR IF THEY DID TAKE CONTROL OF YOUR COUNTRIES?

    • religion of peace
      as long as you ignore their actual mandate as follows
      on who they want to get rid of.
      first the saturday ppl
      then the sunday ppl
      then everyone else..

    • A lot of people believe that.

      This is my favorite example of it 🙂

      https://youtu.be/3753d9M6nKw

      But if you believe in any kind of intelectual curiosity, invention, reason, liberty, innovation, then it sucks if you’re a man as well.

      Why do you think so many Muslim men come to the West? Yes, its to convert us all to islam and wage war on us, but they bloody well enjoy or liberties while they have them, and even as they use them against us to take over.

    • an oppressive death cult is never great — not even when you’re the oppressor to some degree

      the real power ranking of islam is this:

      allah & muhammad > jihadis > muslim men > cattle > muslim women > black muslims > pigs > rats > dogs > kafir men > kafir women > black kafirun

      … still great?

  2. to the topic: i cannot watch any more takiyya, it is so tiring and annoying

    and also the frustration of seeing fellow westerners mislead or pretend to believe the con

    i am fed up with it

    tried to enlighten so many people about islam — it is close to impossible, the fog of ignorance is very thick

    only the smartest and wisest 0.1 percent are able to wise up, maybe less

    blogs like this can make a difference though and reach that 0.1 percent