10 Replies to “Tucker Carlson #9 Andrew Tate and his Aufhaben by the state”
In an article about the loverboy method it seems Andrew Tate’s own website statements condemn him.
Whether or not the Romanian courts are being overzealous or not, or fair with him or not is a different question.
I assume the loverboy law purpose is, essentially, to protect family values by discouraging libertarian sexual mores. Considering that the fertility rate of Western nations has fallen below the sustainable rate of 2.1, and that people of European descent face a future of reduced political power, it should be noted that there is a certain value in creating a law that encourages traditional sexual values which lead to traditional family values and ultimately,
higher birth rates.
Let us remember that the sexual revolution was largely based on fraudulent “science” created by the sick mind of Alfred Kinsey who wanted to normalize the sexual abuse of children. Libertarian values have not produced a healthy society. The West is dying and porn is not going to save it.
Below is a link to the article and a few excerpts.
TikTokers are explaining the ‘Loverboy’ sex-trafficking method Andrew Tate is accused of using to exploit women
Tate has been very open about his webcam business, claiming on the Fresh & Fit podcast last year that he was earning $600,000 a month from 75 female webcam models.
On Tate’s own website, which no longer exists but screenshots of which have been widely shared, Tate wrote that 50% of his employees were his girlfriend at one time and “none were in the adult entertainment industry before they met me.”
On the site, he explained a process that closely resembles the loverboy method.
“My job was to meet a girl, go on a few dates, sleep with her, test if she’s quality, get her to fall in love with me to where she’d do anything I say, and then get her on webcam so we could become rich together,” it reads.
I find the use of the word, “Exploit” to be deceptive at the very least.
Let’s use the term another way:
“Her method was to find a man with a lot of money, give him attention and make him feel special to her, then sleep with him and then get him to pay for her offspring for the rest of his natural life and beyond. She would often exploit men that way taking advantage of their natural desire for her”.
How’s that? Cause its a hell of a lot more common and a much better use of the word, “exploit”.
I remember once sitting at a bar with a stunning bartender back in the 80s. Over her shoulder was a TV playing MTV with some song and stunning women dancing suggestively.
I remarked to her how hypnotic that was since I hadn’t had a TV at home for some years and had forgotten how hypnotic it could be. She responded that it was such a shame to see those women exploited like that.
My answer to her was a question:
If I go to a dog park and wave a steak at all the dogs and they run over to get it, am I exploiting them? Or are they exploiting me?
She was smarter than I thought at first. She didn’t answer. But she did indicate that she had not looked at it that way.
YOu are still correct though that what is good for the family and birthrates is good for humanity. So first thing we have to do is end the bias towards women in all institutions. As that isn’t going to happen, we can pretty much kiss Western Civ goodbye.
On the other hand, once we are more officially communist and have lost ALL our basic rights and dignities as people, they will drop all the BS. No more global warming BS (See China) No more trans BS (See China) No more feminism (see China) none of it as these are ALL dialectical weapons against the West.
So feminists have a choice to make. Give up their grotesquely unfair power advantage, and yes oh-my-God they have a massive one, or we all become slaves to Communism.
Remember what Ceausescu actually did to women? He had roaming rape gangs for any women that were not married and ideally pregnant by a certain age. Say 20 although I don’t remember the specifics. He made damn sure his population would grow. The irony is it was his forced offspring that killed him and put his head on a pike.
The double irony is it was those policies that saved the Romanian people from what appeared to be a demographic extinction.
As to the word “exploit” which has upset you, I think we all know that two wrongs don’t make a right.
But why do you bring up the communist Ceausescu? It seems a little off topic, as I am not arguing for communism and I’m not arguing for feminism. My argument is in support of traditional family values.
Romania is embracing their tradition of Christian values and rejects corrupt values that erode the family and contribute to reduced birth rates. Their fertility rate is slowly rising and Ceausescu has nothing to do with it. Meanwhile in Canada, the fertility rate has fallen to 1.458 and all over the West fertility rates are in decline as they have been since the introduction of the Pill and the sexual revolution. The populations of the West are collapsing and there are many factors causing this. Cultural values are part of the issue but not all of it.
If you can get past the title of the article linked below to read it, perhaps you will see what I’m getting at.
Two wrongs do not make a right. Neither does one wrong. But this is about the consequences of these wrongs, not the math of them.
I brought up Ceausescu because he was a leader of Romania under the communists. So same country. Hey you are totally right in terms of establishing family values and its importance to our survival. Also the top few paragraphs of that article are very good.
I wonder though how we get from where we are now, to what used to work, which in my opinion has been most deliberately broken by people with a lot of insight into our nature.
Do women have the needed amount of character to sacrifice power for the sake of the culture and species? Do men?
Can the horses be put back in the barn? It would likely be easier to start over with a new set of ideas. Or, hopefully the tyrants don’t notice the Amish and yes, the meek shall inherit the Earth.
I think we agree on many things.
A former Romanian once told me that countries go communist, but then they return to the way they were before.
Perhaps that will give you some hope.
As for Romania, yes, it was communist under Ceausescu and the fertility rate went up and down during his reign, but it kept falling after he was ousted (1989) until 2004 when the trend slowly began to reverse. Romanians threw off the communist culture and reverted to their Christian heritage and the birth rate, though still low, began to go up.
As for how to change the course we are on, I agree that is difficult. For some people, a new set of ideas is needed, and also I think Christianity could use another reformation, but for others, the old ways work quite well.
A quote from the article I posted to you in which the author compares casual Christians to devoted Christians:
“Compared to secular men, devout Christian family men who attend church regularly are more loving husbands and more engaged fathers. They have the lowest rate of divorce. And astonishingly, they have the lowest rate of domestic violence of any major group in America,” she writes. In sharp contrast, “nominal Christian men have the highest rates of divorce and domestic violence—even higher than secular men.”
The evidence, Pearcey shows, not only gives the lie to the supposedly equivalent rates of divorce in the evangelical and secular communities; it explodes the claims made by feminists and the secular media that evangelical notions of complementary headship and submission are a breeding ground for violence against women.”
The Romanian fertility rate is slowly increasing.
Maybe they are doing something right.
One more thing. By establishing a porn business in Romania, Andrew Tate was subverting Romania’s efforts to recover from a communist occupation. Was this just a coincidence?
The porn business erodes the family values that Romanians were painstakingly rebuilding. The have been rebuilding their civilization and their population at a time when Western countries are collapsing. The last thing they needed was for young adults to be sucked into working in and consuming porn instead of building families. IN SPITE OF HIS TALK ABOUT STRONG MASCULINITY, TATE MIGHT AS WELL BE A COMMUNIST.
Those are really solid points!
I have a friend that moved from Denmark to Bulgaria. The culture there is intact. They have no mass immigration or dialectical destruction of their culture. People have spontaneous displays of dance and song on the streets as well as art.
I don’t know about demographic trends but there is no demand for halal in the stores.
Naive women (and men) are prone to exploitation: said method here and “the lonely hearts club” scheme (to exploit men). It’s more like a drug pusher or conman and there are websites and books on how to be the conman. Mr Tate took in Tucker so evidently Tate is quite the conman.
Don’t be a three-card Monty mark.
I really only knew Andrew Tate from the main stream media, when he was arrested I posted some comments about misogony and that «of course he converted to islam» etc.
Yesterday I watched this +2 hour video on the danish site Snaphanen, short story: I owe the man an apology.
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In an article about the loverboy method it seems Andrew Tate’s own website statements condemn him.
Whether or not the Romanian courts are being overzealous or not, or fair with him or not is a different question.
I assume the loverboy law purpose is, essentially, to protect family values by discouraging libertarian sexual mores. Considering that the fertility rate of Western nations has fallen below the sustainable rate of 2.1, and that people of European descent face a future of reduced political power, it should be noted that there is a certain value in creating a law that encourages traditional sexual values which lead to traditional family values and ultimately,
higher birth rates.
Let us remember that the sexual revolution was largely based on fraudulent “science” created by the sick mind of Alfred Kinsey who wanted to normalize the sexual abuse of children. Libertarian values have not produced a healthy society. The West is dying and porn is not going to save it.
Below is a link to the article and a few excerpts.
https://www.insider.com/andrew-tate-tiktok-explains-loverboy-method-he-is-accused-of-2023-1
TikTokers are explaining the ‘Loverboy’ sex-trafficking method Andrew Tate is accused of using to exploit women
Tate has been very open about his webcam business, claiming on the Fresh & Fit podcast last year that he was earning $600,000 a month from 75 female webcam models.
On Tate’s own website, which no longer exists but screenshots of which have been widely shared, Tate wrote that 50% of his employees were his girlfriend at one time and “none were in the adult entertainment industry before they met me.”
On the site, he explained a process that closely resembles the loverboy method.
“My job was to meet a girl, go on a few dates, sleep with her, test if she’s quality, get her to fall in love with me to where she’d do anything I say, and then get her on webcam so we could become rich together,” it reads.
I find the use of the word, “Exploit” to be deceptive at the very least.
Let’s use the term another way:
“Her method was to find a man with a lot of money, give him attention and make him feel special to her, then sleep with him and then get him to pay for her offspring for the rest of his natural life and beyond. She would often exploit men that way taking advantage of their natural desire for her”.
How’s that? Cause its a hell of a lot more common and a much better use of the word, “exploit”.
I remember once sitting at a bar with a stunning bartender back in the 80s. Over her shoulder was a TV playing MTV with some song and stunning women dancing suggestively.
I remarked to her how hypnotic that was since I hadn’t had a TV at home for some years and had forgotten how hypnotic it could be. She responded that it was such a shame to see those women exploited like that.
My answer to her was a question:
If I go to a dog park and wave a steak at all the dogs and they run over to get it, am I exploiting them? Or are they exploiting me?
She was smarter than I thought at first. She didn’t answer. But she did indicate that she had not looked at it that way.
YOu are still correct though that what is good for the family and birthrates is good for humanity. So first thing we have to do is end the bias towards women in all institutions. As that isn’t going to happen, we can pretty much kiss Western Civ goodbye.
On the other hand, once we are more officially communist and have lost ALL our basic rights and dignities as people, they will drop all the BS. No more global warming BS (See China) No more trans BS (See China) No more feminism (see China) none of it as these are ALL dialectical weapons against the West.
So feminists have a choice to make. Give up their grotesquely unfair power advantage, and yes oh-my-God they have a massive one, or we all become slaves to Communism.
Remember what Ceausescu actually did to women? He had roaming rape gangs for any women that were not married and ideally pregnant by a certain age. Say 20 although I don’t remember the specifics. He made damn sure his population would grow. The irony is it was his forced offspring that killed him and put his head on a pike.
The double irony is it was those policies that saved the Romanian people from what appeared to be a demographic extinction.
As to the word “exploit” which has upset you, I think we all know that two wrongs don’t make a right.
But why do you bring up the communist Ceausescu? It seems a little off topic, as I am not arguing for communism and I’m not arguing for feminism. My argument is in support of traditional family values.
Romania is embracing their tradition of Christian values and rejects corrupt values that erode the family and contribute to reduced birth rates. Their fertility rate is slowly rising and Ceausescu has nothing to do with it. Meanwhile in Canada, the fertility rate has fallen to 1.458 and all over the West fertility rates are in decline as they have been since the introduction of the Pill and the sexual revolution. The populations of the West are collapsing and there are many factors causing this. Cultural values are part of the issue but not all of it.
If you can get past the title of the article linked below to read it, perhaps you will see what I’m getting at.
https://thefederalist.com/2023/07/11/how-christianity-fixes-toxic-masculinity/
Two wrongs do not make a right. Neither does one wrong. But this is about the consequences of these wrongs, not the math of them.
I brought up Ceausescu because he was a leader of Romania under the communists. So same country. Hey you are totally right in terms of establishing family values and its importance to our survival. Also the top few paragraphs of that article are very good.
I wonder though how we get from where we are now, to what used to work, which in my opinion has been most deliberately broken by people with a lot of insight into our nature.
Do women have the needed amount of character to sacrifice power for the sake of the culture and species? Do men?
Can the horses be put back in the barn? It would likely be easier to start over with a new set of ideas. Or, hopefully the tyrants don’t notice the Amish and yes, the meek shall inherit the Earth.
I think we agree on many things.
A former Romanian once told me that countries go communist, but then they return to the way they were before.
Perhaps that will give you some hope.
As for Romania, yes, it was communist under Ceausescu and the fertility rate went up and down during his reign, but it kept falling after he was ousted (1989) until 2004 when the trend slowly began to reverse. Romanians threw off the communist culture and reverted to their Christian heritage and the birth rate, though still low, began to go up.
As for how to change the course we are on, I agree that is difficult. For some people, a new set of ideas is needed, and also I think Christianity could use another reformation, but for others, the old ways work quite well.
A quote from the article I posted to you in which the author compares casual Christians to devoted Christians:
“Compared to secular men, devout Christian family men who attend church regularly are more loving husbands and more engaged fathers. They have the lowest rate of divorce. And astonishingly, they have the lowest rate of domestic violence of any major group in America,” she writes. In sharp contrast, “nominal Christian men have the highest rates of divorce and domestic violence—even higher than secular men.”
The evidence, Pearcey shows, not only gives the lie to the supposedly equivalent rates of divorce in the evangelical and secular communities; it explodes the claims made by feminists and the secular media that evangelical notions of complementary headship and submission are a breeding ground for violence against women.”
The Romanian fertility rate is slowly increasing.
Maybe they are doing something right.
https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/ROU/romania/fertility-rate
One more thing. By establishing a porn business in Romania, Andrew Tate was subverting Romania’s efforts to recover from a communist occupation. Was this just a coincidence?
The porn business erodes the family values that Romanians were painstakingly rebuilding. The have been rebuilding their civilization and their population at a time when Western countries are collapsing. The last thing they needed was for young adults to be sucked into working in and consuming porn instead of building families. IN SPITE OF HIS TALK ABOUT STRONG MASCULINITY, TATE MIGHT AS WELL BE A COMMUNIST.
Those are really solid points!
I have a friend that moved from Denmark to Bulgaria. The culture there is intact. They have no mass immigration or dialectical destruction of their culture. People have spontaneous displays of dance and song on the streets as well as art.
I don’t know about demographic trends but there is no demand for halal in the stores.
Naive women (and men) are prone to exploitation: said method here and “the lonely hearts club” scheme (to exploit men). It’s more like a drug pusher or conman and there are websites and books on how to be the conman. Mr Tate took in Tucker so evidently Tate is quite the conman.
Don’t be a three-card Monty mark.
I really only knew Andrew Tate from the main stream media, when he was arrested I posted some comments about misogony and that «of course he converted to islam» etc.
Yesterday I watched this +2 hour video on the danish site Snaphanen, short story: I owe the man an apology.