U.S. moves warship, sea-based radar to watch North Korea

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CNN:

By Barbara Starr, Jethro Mullen and K.J. Kwon, CNN
April 1, 2013 — Updated 2029 GMT (0429 HKT)
The U.S. Navy is moving a sea-based radar platform, like the one seen in this 2006 file photo, closer to the North Korean coast in order to monitor that country's military moves, including possible new missile launches, a Defense Department official said Monday, April 1.<!-- -->
</br> The U.S. Navy is moving a sea-based radar platform, like the one seen in this 2006 file photo, closer to the North Korean coast in order to monitor that country’s military moves, including possible new missile launches, a Defense Department official said Monday, April 1. 
U.S., South Korea make military moves
 STORY HIGHLIGHTS
  • The moves are the first of what may be other naval deployments
  • South Korea warns North of “strong response” to any attack
  • U.S. deploys F-22s to South Korea as part of joint military exercises
  • North Korea said it was entering a “state of war” with the South

Seoul, South Korea (CNN) — The U.S. Navy is moving a warship and a sea-based radar platform closer to the North Korean coast in order to monitor that country’s military moves, including possible new missile launches, a Defense Department official said Monday.

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13 Replies to “U.S. moves warship, sea-based radar to watch North Korea”

  1. If the NORK army is starving, we can blink. I would not want that, but it might not matter.

    So long we don’t give them any tribute. The starvation will force regime change or a war.

    A starving army & a fat leader is no laughing matter.

  2. @Richard

    I simply do not have the data such as are soldiers starving. In the 1990s many civilians starved to death.

    Some people are saying that the north always tests a new South Korean President. I can’t fault that line of thinking too much.

    I think that part of it is that their political economy needs payoffs. They got use to extorting money in the 1990s. The might have a psychological/sociological need for it. My hope is that we pay no further tribute. I consider it tribute, because we gave it in good faith for specific actions. We were not repaid. We were taken advantaged of. To continue to use that same formula for negotiating at this point is caving it is tribute.

    If we can just keep the weak kneed among us from giving tribute, the North Koreans will gradually see their regime sputter out. At best they will throw Kim Jong Un in prison, throw open the gates of the totalitarian state & tell the South Koreans we need help. Not at all likely but one can dream.

    More likely there will be a some coups but no more than a few cross border skirmishes if we present a strong front & threaten them with bloody heII.

    I was a colder winter here. Maybe it was there as well & the crops will come in later. Privation will lead to more threats over the next 6 months. We’ll see.

  3. Citizens Asked for ‘Patriotic Rice’

    North Korea turns to food donations to feed soldiers and workers.

    2012-12-04

    http://www.rfa.org/english/news/korea/rice-12042012151634.html

    Maybe a little more strident than the usual shakedown of a incoming South Korean President because they are hungry.

    So we follow the weather in North America to hear about the local crop, for gardens, driving & picnics.

    I would never though of following the crops of other countries to see of there will be a war.

    I do not care for the left’s terminology of Food security. It is another one of their obscuring euphemisms. This is is the real language. “Droughts are natural, famines are man made.” The keep having famines in North Korea & we cannot touch them. So it must be their own damn fault.

  4. The rice crop will be poor, all collective farms have poor crops j you can take that as a given, in the USSR close to 1/3rd of the food was grown on the small patches the farmers were allowed to use to grow food for themselves. Collective farms where you don’t get the results of your labors always do poorly.

    I am basing my prediction of war on several things:

    1) Crazy fat boy has to prove he is strong enough to rule the nation.

    2) Both Iran and China want a diversion in that region to draw attention and the US military away from them. Since Obama has cut our forces so much we don’t have men and equipment enough to fight in Korea and the Middle East at the same time.

    3) The worlds economy is collapsing and Crazy Fat Boy needs the resources of the South to survive.

    Having said that the military in the North is probably short on food and their equipment is reported to be obsolete, not even China and the USSR was crazy enough to give NK top of the line equipment. Also based on the reports of what the South Korean units that fought in Nam did the normal predictions is South Korean hot knife v North Korean butter. The big question is will they stop at the Yalu and will China remain out of the fight if they do?

  5. If you read this you might cry. Yes older news, but some of the crop has to be held back as seed for next year’s crop. Did they hold enough back or were they just so hungry as to eat too much seed stock. It has happened before to people on every continent.

    This is not “sexy” like a nuke or something powerful, but it is something that must be followed if you want to read the tea leaves. I don’t think nukes are sexy by the way. Personally, I like something like Orion class spaceships or the vision of Gerard O’Neill (unlimited resources). Now that is sexy. No more war over scarce resources.

    Special Report: Crisis grips North Korean rice bowl
    Fri Oct 7, 2011 7:47pm EDT
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/07/us-korea-north-food-idUSTRE7956DU20111007

    Drought imperils North Korea rice harvest
    Published: May 27, 2012 at 10:51 AM
    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2012/05/27/Drought-imperils-North-Korea-rice-harvest/UPI-23011338130298/

  6. @ Richard

    I read your post of April 1, 2013 at 9:47 pm. I can’t say your forecast is accurate, but it is no worse than mine. It could be better for all I know. I got nothing.

    The South Koreans are professional. I have read criticisms of their not providing security in Vietnam by their actions & inactions. That is their efforts hurt America & South Vietnam not helped. But that is in th past.

    I GTG. But your posts are interesting & I will check your reply tomorrow.

  7. The testing, yes they always test a new leader usually by shelling an island both claim and the South holds. The problem here is that the new leader in the South is tired of the Norths actions and is promising to hit back several orders of magnitude harder then the North hits.

    Crazy Fat Boy will be forced to either surrender (causing massive turmoil in the Norths military and security apparatus) or retaliate and cause a general war. Some of the Northern Generals, hell maybe all of them know they are going to lose but they are the product of several generations that have thought of Crazy Fat Boys family as Gods so they will probably obey orders.

    You have to remember that at times the tensions that have been suppressed between nations causes wars even when both sides don’t really want war. During the Cold War the tensions in Korea and elsewhere build up thanks to mutually assured destruction, neither side wafornted to risk nuclear destruction so we sat hard on our allies to prevent local wars from going big. Now the USSR doesn’t exist and our leaders believe their own propaganda (a sure sign of low intelligence) they believe that China and Russia is our friends and that the problems of the world were all caused by the west. For this reason the only nation they are willing to set on hard are those who don’t want to start a war and they are willing to turn a blind eye to the ones who do, or at least think they can manage to go near the Chinese border with out getting a reaction from China.

    By the way China has spent the last 20 years telling its officer corp that they are going to have to fight against the US and have even had several books written on how China has the advantage because of some mystical ratio in power that they say they have.

  8. The not providing security in Nam was because they are still trained to win the wars they fight, our troops are trained to build nations. The two philosophies don’t mix too well on the battlefield.

  9. @ Richard
    On your side their are the examples of WW1 (I don’t know abut the prelude; the European Cockpit wars of 1912/1913), the War between Athens & Sparta, the international standoff off Valparaiso, Chile in 1966 & the Spanish Bombardment over honor, etc.

    The Athens/Sparta War & many offensives that made no sense were over honor (Greek: Time). The same was so for WW1. Everyone from the kings to the man on the street wanted war. Several months later by the fall & winter the average an wanted Peace. The Christmas truce proved this. Yet the war had to go on.

    I also read Michael Shermer’s piece in the March 2012 piece in Scientific American on Overoptimism. Stuff like that plays a role. It wasa good piece &I generally dislike Shermer.

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