Here is an interesting article from the Norwegian Press. The claim is made, and to be frank correctly, that forcing children into crime is a part of Gypsy culture.
Well let’s ask any non-Gypsy that has fallen asleep on a Spanish train and see if they concur.
In the countless arguments I used to have with people about how not only is multiculturalism an oxymoron, I also argue that no one really believes in it. When people speak of multiculturalism they typically mean that they get pleasure in feeling morally superior to the imagined cultural-monogamist (read conservative as they project them) by eating Chinese food or listening to anyone other than Pat Boone.
These same people however would have to restrain themselves from calling the board of health if they saw 25 rotting duck carcasses sitting on the front steps of a Chinese grocery store, covered in flies in 90 degree heat and direct sunlight. Something which is quite definitely a part of Chinese culture. At least in China town in Ottawa.
Law, I try and point out to people, is nothing more and nothing less than the cultural values of a given people codified on paper and perhaps sanctified through process or decree. Often subject to change, interpretation but nonetheless, a codified set of rules which indeed define the culture where the culture…
…dictates how people are to treat each other within groups and between demographics such as age, gender etc.
…dictates how people are to view goods and property. How can a think be said to be yours. Is your property yours to the extent you are allowed to defend it from those who would take it? Is your property subject to seizure from another merely because they belong to another demographic, IE, aristocracy, royalty, amber-indians etc. Different cultures therefore, have different laws. One only needs to remember that Europeans actually colonized parts of the middle East and Africa in order, initially anyway, to end the widespread practice of slavery which is still very common amongst Arab Muslims and even overt in some countries like Mauritania and Sudan etc.
Yet when I spoke to multicultural apologists and advocators about theft as part of Gypsy culture they would attempt to scuffle their way out of it by calling me racist, or ignorant as they typically do not have the imagination to recognize that humanity can have more than one view on what it means to own something.
Not that Gypsies would tolerate you stealing from them. Break into a Gitano’s camper and steal his guitar and see if he waits to call the police or just maybe offers the thing to you. I doubt even Lloyds of London would insure you if you planned to do that. So clearly Gypsies have the same understanding of property ownership ‘Payos’ (Gypsy term of contempt for people who work for a living) do, but only when it comes to them. So yes, culture does dictate law and this is why multiculturalism is an oxymoron.
You simply cannot have more than one code of conduct, understanding of the way people and property are to be respected, in one geographical area.
Below the fold, Michael Laudahn was kind enough to do a proper, non-machine translation of this article:
This is Roma culture, not human trafficking’
The family’s lawyer rejects the notion that this is a case of human trafficking, pointing at the condition that Romas always have traveled.
[Image caption:] The public prosecutor has pleaded for 26 years and 2 months of prison together against six Romanians of the Roma ethnic group, for human trafficking involving children. According to police, they have abused the underage girls in their travelling band by making them beg and steal, in addition to forced marriages and sexual assaults. Carl-Christian Grythe Hoff is the lawyer of this Romanian woman.
‘They originate from poor conditions in Romania. The children are not being abused, but they contribute to improve the living conditions of the entire family’, says Are Bohne, lawyer of one of the accused.
‘But the girls are also exposed to sexual assaults and forced marriages?’
‘In the Roma culture, children are being considered adults when they are pubescent. It is normal that they marry at an early age.’
‘But according to international conventions and Norwegian law, coming-of-age takes place at 18?’
‘That is not so in Romania. There, 13- or 14-year olds are not being considered children’, says Bohne.
The culture argument is being rejected by international experts.
‘The culture can never be accepted as an excuse for assaults or crime’, says Carolina Lasen Diaz, Council of Europe.
‘The indicted often argue, claiming this were part of their culture. But this doesn’t make it more legal’, says team leader human trafficking at Europol, Steve Harvey.
Why were they not discovered if they committed crime in almost all of southern Norway’s police districts? Politiadvokat Rudolf Christoffersen says this happens, because neither police nor children protection agencies are able to recognize that children can be abused by their own family.
‘Is it fear of stigmatizing a persecuted ethnic group which has kept police from intervening?’
‘Yes, it is. Most of the time in this case, we were accused of being racists, and to have arrested the accused because they are roma. The truth is exactly the opposite. You cannot abuse children and then hide yourself behind a culture. The roma people’s children have the same right for protection like other children. Anything else would be discrimination’, says Christoffersen.
Neither the children’s department nor the children protection agency’s Oslo emergency response team wish to comment if the children protection agency has failed in roma children cases. Chef Helge Skjetne, municipal council section having responsibility for children’s protection in the capital rejects that Oslo’s children protection agency had failed in roma children cases, provided they were in a position to intervene.
The two youngest girls in the Bergen case suffer from trauma after what they have experienced, they feel abandoned by the family, according to their assigned lawyers. The mother accused thinks her daughter lied, in order to obtain material goods. The verdict will be pronounced in july.
In may, Nova researcher Ada Engebrigtsen published the research report ‘Tiggerbander og kriminelle bakmenn eller fattige EU-borgere? Myter og realiteter om utenlandske tiggere i Oslo’ [Beggar gangs and criminal backers or poor EU citizens? Myths and realities about foreign beggars in Oslo]. The report comes up during the defence’ pleading.
In her report, she writes: ‘As a principal rule, beggars are ‘independent business families’ and not victims of criminal networks, who profit from their work’.
Moreover: ‘Human trafficking can happen in this ethnic group too, but this is rather the exception’.
She points at other research which says that the myth according to which beggars can be human trafficking victims does not correspond to the facts of reality.
Engebrigtsen has calculated that beggars in Norway on average earn between 20 and 40 crowns per hour, and she thinks that the surplus is not big enough to be interesting for backers.