Saudi Arabia is ‘biggest funder of terrorists’

Independent:

Saudi Arabia is the single biggest contributor to the funding of Islamic extremism and is unwilling to cut off the money supply, according to a leaked note from Hillary Clinton.

The US Secretary of State says in a secret memorandum that donors in the kingdom still “constitute the most significant source of funding to Sunni terrorist groups worldwide” and that “it has been an ongoing challenge to persuade Saudi officials to treat terrorist financing emanating from Saudi Arabia as a strategic priority”.

In a separate diplomatic cable published by WikiLeaks last night, the militant group which carried out the Mumbai bombings in 2008, Lashkar-e-Toiba, is reported to have secured money in Saudi Arabia via one of its charity offshoots which raises money for schools.

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17 Replies to “Saudi Arabia is ‘biggest funder of terrorists’”

  1. “Saudi Arabia is the single biggest contributor to the funding of Islamic extremism” – What? And this has come out as a leaked document by the Democrats? It’s hardly a secret and it’s hardly news!
    Most of us knew five or ten years ago that this was the case. Does this mean that Obama’s goons have only just found out? It wouldn’t surprise me.

  2. Well all of wikileak’s stuff is fairly old now isn’t it? And frankly very little of it was beyond the level of gossip anyway.

  3. The fools think this is leakworthy? The real news is that Hil put this out there. The Saudis have been doing this for decades and know exactly what they are doing. The Left can screechily deny it, but it does not change the longview of reality. While Bill and Hil thought they were accomplishing something, the real joke has been on them all along. If this is part of the stealth attempt to salvage the Dems for anything in the future after Obama destroys the party, Bill and Hil better wake up and decide are they on America’s side as a vocal opposition or will they end up on the ash heap alongside Obama, remembered as attempting to destroy democracy.

    And that points up other isolated Dems, who are seeing that being connected to Obama is a liability if they want a career in politics after the Debacle. Think Corey Booker and others who have a future they don’t want ruined by Obama and the extreme Left.

  4. According to British writer and lecturer, Karen Armstrong, the west is deeply Islamophobic and the Islamophobia is the result of a long process of prejudice, dating back to the Crusades. The recent events have strengthened the prejudiced belief that “Islam is the religion of the sword”. Islamophobia can manifest itself directly in verbal or physical attacks on Muslims but also indirectly in negative images of Muslims presented by the media. Islamophobia was worsened by anti-Islamic policies, publications and activities in Europe and the US. Islamophobia is not only a cause of discrimination against Muslims but also an open threat to world peace. The western media and intellectuals play a significant role in spreading Islamophobia. Hate-mongers have come out of the woodworks in full force. Now, not a day passes without the newspapers, magazines, radio and TV talk shows, Hollywood movies, computer games and even children’s cartoons and the myriad of internet websites and chat rooms, attacking Islam and Muslims. Muslim communities in the western world and its so called leaders have taken the Ostrich-approach. They have buried their heads in the sand hoping the problems would go away. It is not going to go away. The neck of the Ostrich will be cut. Entire Muslim communities living in the west are under attack. According to a survey, 70% of Americans do not want to see Muslims living in their neighborhood. There is not a single day when Islam and Muslims are not attacked by the mainstream news media outlets. Muslims are referred barbarians who must either be civilised or banished before they pollute the egalitarian societies in which they were born or now live. According to a survey in Scotland, half of Scots see Muslims as a ‘cultural threat’. Scotland would lose its identity if more Muslims went to live there. According to DEMOS, British public is more worried about violent crime and immigration, but the British establishment has focused too heavily on terrorism.

    Masajid and Muslim organizations are regarded as training centers for terrorists. Thousands of innocent Muslim youths are being searched in streets and hundreds of them are behind the bar with out any trial. No religion advocates terrorism. However, West has directed its anger against Islam and Muslims by inventing Islamic Terrorism. It is the western extremism which is portraying Islam as an evil. It is the extremism in France, Turkey and other European countries where Muslim women are not allowed to cover their heads. Now the Turkish education chief wants headscarf ban lifted. In Britain, there is a social and economic pressure on Muslim women not to cover their heads. Despite international outrage and the US authorities’ own stated wish to close Camp Guantanamo is still holding detainees illegally… in cruel, inhuman and degrading conditions.

    There is an undeclared World War III going on in the name of War on Terrorism. The fact of the matter is that Islam is all peace and hence this war is war of terrorism and not against terrorism. Deception and lies are frequently part of the wars and with powerful Hollywood film tools and other media communications devices people of the world are thoroughly fooled, deceived and made confused. The war in Iraq and Afghanistan is an unmitigated disaster that had brought the west generally into disrepute. Inter Milan, the Italian foot-ball team played with an Istanbul team, wearing a strip with “Crusader-Style” red crosses which is offensive to Muslims. The red-cross brings to mind one thing: the symbol of the “Templar Knights”. The cross also symbolised “western racist superiority over Islam”. Inter Milan had manifested in the most explicit manner the superiority of one religion over another. Many EU countries are against Turkey joining EU on the ground that majority of Turks are Muslims with secular constitution. Widespread ignorance and Right-wing groups is the main culprit behind the demonized image of Islam in the west. Islamophobic west has become politically motivated. Western media and politicians are portraying Muslims as “satanic figures”. A recent British study has found that a torrent of negative and imbalance stories in the British media demonize the sizeable Muslim minority and their faith by spreading prejudices and portraying them as the enemy within. Many people in the west, including researchers and those working in the media, unintentionally provide a blemished image of Islam because they are ignorant about Islam and Muslims. The republication of Danish cartoons clearly shows the prevalent ignorance about Islam. The United Nation wanted to introduce a universal law to protect Muslims from Islamophobia, which is spreading like wildfire, but the so-called civilised western establishments, voted against it. It is the fundamental duty of Muslims settled in the west to raise awareness of the spirit and core of Islam.

    One by one all Muslim Organizations are going to be classified as ‘Terrorists’. BBC Newsnight has already branded world Assembly of Muslim Youth (WAMY) as terrorist. According to TES, dated 1st Feb2002, Muslim teacher’s website has been condemned for links to militant Islamic groups. It is absurd to brand Muslim teachers website as a terrorist. Its aim is to provide guidance, share experience and discuss every day issues and problems facing Muslim teachers. It is also going to help British teachers to learn to respect and understand Islamic culture and most misunderstood British Muslim community. Racism in schools is alive and well was recognized by the Focus Institute on Rights. Staff in many schools is unwittingly racist but in my view, all British teachers are chicken racist. Racism is rife in National Curriculum. There is no mention of Muslim contribution in the world. Schools reinforce the racism that has been promulgated for centuries. The curriculum is supposed to encourage respect for different nationals, religious and ethnic identities and encourage pupils to challenge injustice. A report on teachers from the minority communities found that racism coupled with a lack of support and career progression is holding some back. Even teacher trainees were encountering racism at placement schools. They would like to discuss their worries more, but only if the senior management team was visibly open and supportive. The management at schools was very defensive about any mention of racism, so the issue could not be discussed in any meaningful way. If a teacher in English school calls a teddy bear Jesus Christ, there would be seriously hostile comments in much of the media. While in Sudan a British teacher was tried and imprisoned for insulting Islam for fifteen days but was pardoned by the President and released after eight days. She said after her release that she encountered nothing but kindness and generosity from Sudanese people. She was treated well in a Government Villa instead of a prison cell. She could have been imprisoned for six months and forty lashes. It is a fact that British teachers have no respect for Islamic faith and subsequently Muslim community, according to research by the University of Derby.

    All the Masajid and Muslim organizations are there for humanitarian, educational and youth works. None of them promotes acts of terrorism or support so called Islamic Terrorism. They are busy in those aspects of education, which are neglected by state schools. They satisfy the needs and demands of the Muslim children and teenagers, which were denied by state schools and LEAs. Without their support and guidance the young generation of Muslim would have lost its Islamic Identity crucial for mental, emotional and personality development. Their contribution will be more effective if all Muslim pupils attend Muslim schools with Muslim teachers. It will help to develop positive co-relation between school and home resulting in raising the standard of education of future Muslim generations. For this purpose, I have a proposition that those state schools where Muslim pupils are in majority may be designated as Muslim Community Schools, managed and controlled by Muslim Educational Trusts and Charities. They are in a better position to educate Muslim children according to their needs and demands. A study by the National Foundation for Educational Research confirmed that all faith schools had better results than their secular counterparts. Conservative spokesman on education has praised schools affiliated to religious groups, saying Muslim schools deserved “support” not suspicion.
    IA
    http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk

  5. So what else is new? I suppose we can take some joy in Hillary finally seeing the nose on her face, of course she will probably forget this fact real fast.

    Iftikhar Ahmad a phobia is an irrational fear, there is nothing irrational about being concerned about a religion whose stated goal is to force everyone to believe their way.

  6. Richard:

    In all fairness to Iftikhar, they do not want to force us all to believe their way. They want to force their legal system upon us where people who believe their way are vastly superior to the rest of us in rights and in status, financially and in every way. They want to offer us the choice of subservience, conversion or death from their point of view.

    Of course from mine, I would choose that we nuke Mecca, Medina and then Qom. We could give 48 hours notice first if we still think we owe them the benifit of Western Judeo-Christian values but I do think Muslims should take note..

    If you offered many if not most Muslims a button that, if pushed, would annihilate the US and commit genocide on Jewish people and destroy the liberal state of Israel, most would push that button and rightly expect to be treated as heroes as if pushing that button was an act of great accomplishment. It would behoove muslims to remember…

    Israel and the US already have such a button and have had the common decency not even to mention it, let alone use it.

    So push and push and push onwards Ifitkhar and all your mustard buddies. Kill a few more. Hijack some aircraft. Blow up some buses. Sooner or later, we will actually use what we have. Only this time, it will be we, who will be passing out candies on the street.

  7. Sharia courts and state funded Muslim schools are for the Muslim community and for Muslim children. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school. Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental period.

    When Jerusalem was conquered by the Crusaders during the middle ages, Arab Muslims, Christains and Jews were massacred. They spared no body. After 100 years when Jerusalem was reoccupied by the Muslims, not a single Christian and a Jew was slaughtered. Saladin should be taught in European and American schools.Saladin should be included in European curricula, says Thorvald Steen.

    Leading Norwegian writer has criticized the education given to children in European schools, saying it is misleading and arguing that a Kurdish-Muslim commander “who opened Jerusalem to all religions” after conquering it over 800 years ago should be presented as a childhood hero for them.

    “He was an enormously important figure, and he is not mentioned in our books,” said Thorvald Steen about Salah ad-Din Yusuf ibn Ayyub — better known as Saladin in the West — who defeated and took Jerusalem back from the Crusaders in the battle of Hattin in 118. He did not seek revenge though his generals wanted it greatly after 87 years of oppression and depression at the hands of Crusaders. He could easily smash the entire city, but he did not do that and took a rather tolerant and peaceful approach, Saladin, a devout Sunni Muslim, united Muslims against the Crusaders in Jerusalem and formed a huge army famous for its chivalry which was also supported by minority Christians and Jews at the time.

    Richard the Lionheart was profoundly affected by Saladin’s pluralist and tolerant personality. Following a direct order from Pope Gregory VIII, Richard the Lionheart led the third crusader army against Saladin in 1191 after he’d conquered Jerusalem four years earlier. “The real provocation for the pope was that Saladin opened Jerusalem to all religions,” Steen said, arguing that the “pope’s teaching at the time was ‘You crusaders must bring Saladin’s head to Rome, and the more non-Christians you kill the faster you rise to paradise.

    Though he managed to defeat Saladin’s army in the battle of Arsuf, Richard the Lionheart failed to retake Jerusalem from him, eventually returning home after coming to an agreement with the Muslim commander for Jerusalem to stay under Muslim control but be open for Christian pilgrims. “Richard was a cruel fundamentalist, but he became a confused fundamentalist after discovering that the world is much different than what he thought,” Steen noted, adding, “Richard was shocked about Saladin, who he thought the devil’s man being at such a high level.” The Norwegian author argued, however, that intense propaganda was carried out in Europe to exalt the Richard the Lionheart after his death. Steen stressed that the reason William Shakespeare did not write about Richard the Lionheart is because “he is too perfect to write about in Shakespeare’s style where characters are represented with their good and bad sides together.” The way he presented Saladin has been admired, especially among Muslims.

    UNO has taken a right decision to hand over Jerusalam to Muslims because they are going to do justice and tolerate and respoect those who are differnt. Still one of the shrine of Jesus(peace be upon him) is under the control of Muslims who give it full respect and honour.
    IA
    http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk
    IA

  8. Eeyore you got me, although the imposition of Sharia is in my opinion one form of coercion to convert. Your statement about what will happen if the Moslems keep pushing is understating matters, after 9/11/01 I was talking to the child of a career soldier (here after lifer brat) we were discussing the probability of al Qaeda having nukes. He said that even if they did they weren’t stupid enough to use them because if the US is nukes within 20 years we would have killed all Moslems in the world.

    The Moslems really need to study some history, the Northern Europeans were the ones that created the world wide empires, they were out numbered when they created them but the still created them. The Northern Europeans were also the ones who put murder on an assembly line bases.

    Does anyone in their right minds really want to piss off the nations with histories like those, or the nations that kicked the butts of those nations? Think hard guys, the worlds economic situation is about to make violence in Europe a common thing, something that any student of history knows it was up until 1945. One result of this will be to bring back the European strong man/men and to force the European nations to once again build strong armies.

    By the way, if most of the people in the West were offered a chance to push the button to nuke the Islamic holy cities and end this mess I think they would choose to push the button,

  9. Does Iftikhar get paid by the word? I thought I was prolix, but geez.

    I was tempted to fisk him, but seriously, who has the time?

  10. Hey Iftikar,
    Your people do not have my permission to come to the West, you never have.
    Oil and water do not mix.
    Thanks for the info, nothing personal, just not interested in your problems.

  11. People are people, regardless of where they were born, what color their skin is, or whatever religion. All deserve respect.
    Immigrants live in ghetto’s and Swedes/Brits will move out of an entire street if one coloured person or muslim moves in.
    Tolerance in Sweden/Britain is an illusion. The problem isn’t immigrants not adapting to British culture, it’s Brits showing much disrespect and scorn to those who are of any immigrant background. even if an immigrant was well versed in English, knew the customs etc. would they still get employment? No. Would Brits treat them as a decent human? No.
    So why would they want to assimilate into a culture that is constantly tearing them down?

    All migrants claim benefits,according to British media. The Daily Mail moans that they don’t work. Now they’re complaining that they have jobs. As a decent tax paying migrant working and living here I find it offensive that xenophobia exists in a country where every Britain tells us that everybody is equal.

    At the end of the day employers are always going to employ the person who will do the job the best for the least money. Politicians of all 3 main parties will always talk tough about immigration ,but secretly they love it ,it keeps wages down and house prices up. A successful employer will choose the right person for the job, regardless of ethnicity etc. What is so hard to understand about that? If the country invites foreign workers here then don’t be surprised if they work.

    What the immigrants ask is not just social benefit and money from the government, but more human interaction and being respected as fellow human-beings. Hell if I can get more of these at the expense of paying more tax, I’d even do that. The sense of belonging doesn’t come from money or other materialistic factors for that matter. How about treating people equally? For example like saying hi when walking past each other on streets instead of exclaiming “you steal our jobs”; or NOT rejecting a job applicant for being Asian/Mideast/African/Slavic? The sense of respect stems from the small gestures of people, the way they greet you and wants to know you as a person. Then again I can’t blame the Brits cos they don’t even show much intimacy towards each other.

    Seven million Brits are unable to read and write. It is practicaly imposible for them to work for the economic, social and emotional prosperity of the British society. Because of this, British society would bleed to death without migration. Immigrants are the life blood of the British society. In todays ruthless workplace Employers will not take on a British Worker on a fair days work for a fair days pay basis when they can employ immigrants pay them peanuts, exploit and drive them like slaves. UK Company Bosses love unlimited immigration. They cant get enough of it!

    Immigration is purely about economics. If you have a skill or money; welcome aboard. If you do not; you are not welcome.

    Why everyone believes it is so easy for skilled immigrants from non EU countries to live there. First you need to prove you have enough level of education (at some point it was Master degree, second – you need to prove you earned enough in your home country; third – you have to show your English level which should be not less than 6.5 on IELTS scale; and fourth – you have to prove before coming to the UK you have enough money to support yourself here for the first time and this is £2800. As soon as you are here you have absolutely no preferences, you have to compete on labour market as anyone else. In addition to this in your visa you have a statement: no claims for public funds, so we don’t receive any benefits from the state.

    I see no reason why immigration and tolerance for other cultures is a threat to the welfare state. Immigrants keep some of our most important public services running and will likely be required even more so in the decades ahead in order to care for European’s ageing population. There are certainly legitimate concerns among the trade union movement about social dumping bringing down wages but that could quite easily be solved by tightening labour regulations and making sure all workers have the same pay and working conditions regardless of where they come from. I think the main threat is the EU (together with global financial institutions like the IMF). Why not challenge economic globalisation and the powerful corporate interests it serves instead of putting the blame on migrants from the third world who are either fleeing persecution or simply looking for a better life for themselves and their families?

    A Muslim is a citizen of this tiny global village. He does not want to become notoriously monolingual Brit. A Muslim child learns and be well versed in Standard English to follow the National; Curriculum and go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. At the same time he learns and be well versed in Arabic, Urdu and other community languages to keep in touch with his cultural heritage and enjoy the beauty of his literature and poetry.

    Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim schools. There are hundreds of state and church schools where Muslim children are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be opted out as Muslim Academies.
    IA
    http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk

  12. Iftikhar Ahmad I see the same lies are being told that were told in the 1960s, tolerance is a two way street, and all of your writing shows that you are intolerant to anyone who doesn’t follow sharia. If you are going to be intolerant others will be intolerant in return, learn to let the local culture alone and assimilate into that culture then you will be welcome. Refuse to assimilate and you will be hated and considered someone to be discriminated against.

    By the way people are not the same all over, their cultures make a big difference, it is only when you are dealing with the same or similar cultures that you can claim people are the same all over. A fact the left refuses to learn.

  13. American Black community and British Black community was forced to adopt your culture, language and faith but still they are the underdogs of American and British society. They have been treated worst than animals. Animals have more rights than Black community in both societies. Black president is the “show man” of the American society.

    In the past Muslim community has been the vicitm of Paki-bashing by the British society. Since 9/11 and 7/7, it is a vicitm of terrorism and now it is victim of sexual grooming. Lets us see what would happen next. At the time of 9/11 there were only 54 Muslim schools and none was state funded. Now there are round about 170 schools and only 12 are state funded. Now more and more Muslim schools will emerage because now Muslim community is a victim of sexual grooming.

  14. Michael:

    That is his tactic. Muslims cannot possibly win on reason or facts. It is always about winning a grand jihad against unbelievers using all stratagems of war. This particular tactic is what I call, ‘the spaghetti method’. you take a handful of it, throw it at the wall and hope some sticks. It is a mixture of taqyiia and Frankfurt’s critical theory which you see above, where he tries to make the US look racist despite having a black president, Colin Powel, Condalisa Rice etc. etc. while ignoring the Islamic worlds contemporary trading of more slaves today than when we think of slaves a few centuries ago. In fact, there is a great clip I used here on Mauritania,

    http://www.mrctv.org/videos/short-analysis-obamas-cairo-speech-2009

    which is numerically trivial compared to the Sudan, and Muslims are frequently busted in Western nations, even Canada, for keeping slaves as Mohamed was clear that slavery of black people is A OK. In fact, there is no Arabic word for black person that does not also mean slave. Abdi, I believe, is the most common one.

    I am getting fed up with his cut-and-paste attempts to overwhelm fact based criticism of Islam with tactical and voluminous sophistry. I feel that soon, his value as a classical example of Islamic deception becomes not worth it and like most other blogs, will probably spam him out.

  15. I don’t know about Britain but in the States the problems the blacks have are caused by their refusal to assimilate, they are insisting that they are special and that we must treat them as special people. If you insist on acting differently you will not be liked, their insistence that we have to change means that people will not like them.

    As for their being underdogs, jobs held for them and them alone, special treatment in the legal system, payments not to work and to have kids. That doesn’t sound like underdogs to me.

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