Del Bigtree interpretation of Vaccine creator, Geert Vanden Bosshe Ph.D thesis on why mRNA shots ruin immunity to variants

This fellow is perhaps a little over the top in his hyperbole, but if he is right, maybe not.

This explanation does at least offer a model as to why places with the highest vaxx rates have a much higher hospitalization rate than the same places did a year ago before the damned shots were even available.

PC offers this observation on this video that deserves a spot with it.

“You might note that antivaccine “thinking” tends to be black and white. Either the vaccine is 100% effective, or it’s crap; the vaccine is either 100% safe, or it’s deadly. Like Vanden Bossche, they are very clever at sounding complex and nuanced in the service of demonizing vaccines. Vanden Bossche tries to impress with jargon and his handwaving invocation of variants coupled with invocations of natural killer cells and the innate immune system, and it does sound very impressive indeed. However, at its heart, it’s all speculation without any firm evidence, as well as a “reimagining” (if you will) of the old-fashioned antivaccine tropes that vaccines are (1) ineffective (Vanden Bossche’s claim that they don’t work against variants); (2) dangerous; and (3) make the vaccinated dangerous to the unvaccinated (Vanden Bossche’s claim that vaccines drive the evolution of more transmissible and dangerous variants).

Is it possible that SARS-CoV-2 could evolve variants that evade immunity from vaccines? Of course. Vaccination is a selective pressure, but it’s just one of many, and the current crop of variants all evolved before there even was a mass vaccination program. The bottom line is that the best way to forestall the development of further variants, one or more of which might be able to evade the immune response, whether due to prior infection or due to vaccination, is by vaccinating as many people as possible as fast as possible and following public health interventions:

There needs to be extensive genomic surveillance studies that are done to assess how the vaccines’ efficacy is affected by the Lambda variant,” Kullar wrote. Until Covid-19 cases overall decrease, “the best way to prevent the emergence of more variants is getting fully vaccinated, not traveling internationally, and following strict infection prevention measures including wearing a face mask, physically distancing from others, and not attending large social gatherings.”

https://respectfulinsolence.com/2021/08/23/geert-vanden-bossche-is-back-and-still-blaming-vaccines-for-covid-19-variants/#comments

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11 Replies to “Del Bigtree interpretation of Vaccine creator, Geert Vanden Bosshe Ph.D thesis on why mRNA shots ruin immunity to variants”

  1. “You might note that antivaccine “thinking” tends to be black and white. Either the vaccine is 100% effective, or it’s crap; the vaccine is either 100% safe, or it’s deadly. Like Vanden Bossche, they are very clever at sounding complex and nuanced in the service of demonizing vaccines. Vanden Bossche tries to impress with jargon and his handwaving invocation of variants coupled with invocations of natural killer cells and the innate immune system, and it does sound very impressive indeed. However, at its heart, it’s all speculation without any firm evidence, as well as a “reimagining” (if you will) of the old-fashioned antivaccine tropes that vaccines are (1) ineffective (Vanden Bossche’s claim that they don’t work against variants); (2) dangerous; and (3) make the vaccinated dangerous to the unvaccinated (Vanden Bossche’s claim that vaccines drive the evolution of more transmissible and dangerous variants).

    Is it possible that SARS-CoV-2 could evolve variants that evade immunity from vaccines? Of course. Vaccination is a selective pressure, but it’s just one of many, and the current crop of variants all evolved before there even was a mass vaccination program. The bottom line is that the best way to forestall the development of further variants, one or more of which might be able to evade the immune response, whether due to prior infection or due to vaccination, is by vaccinating as many people as possible as fast as possible and following public health interventions:

    There needs to be extensive genomic surveillance studies that are done to assess how the vaccines’ efficacy is affected by the Lambda variant,” Kullar wrote. Until Covid-19 cases overall decrease, “the best way to prevent the emergence of more variants is getting fully vaccinated, not traveling internationally, and following strict infection prevention measures including wearing a face mask, physically distancing from others, and not attending large social gatherings.”
    https://respectfulinsolence.com/2021/08/23/geert-vanden-bossche-is-back-and-still-blaming-vaccines-for-covid-19-variants/#comments

  2. I do not know who PC is and I cannot see how his commentary can be taken seriously if he does not have a medical degree?What are P.C’s formal qualifications (if any) ?

  3. PC wrote:
    “The bottom line is that the best way to forestall the development of further variants,
    one or more of which might be able to evade the immune response,
    whether due to prior infection or due to vaccination,
    is by vaccinating as many people as possible as fast as possible and following public health interventions:”
    Correct me if I understood the above wrongly:
    He writes that the solution for stopping the development of further variants who evade immune response, because of prior infection OR DUE TO VACCINATION, is vaccination.

  4. Shelagh, there are no qualifications for thinking.

    However there do seem to be different levels of deductive reasoning…
    https://vladtepesblog.com/the-agenda-and-views-of-this-site/

    Now, totalitarian countries with mafia crime families running them want to see the removal of Western Values such as, ‘innocent before being proven guilty,’ and ‘free speech.’

    So intimidation is inflicted on the toddlers.

    Their reaction to leave the herd is fight, flight, freeze and faint.

    You and I will get the finger-pointing: “I cannot see how his commentary can be taken seriously if he is not an Islamic Scholar, an Intellectual or a Sex Therapist. All those hiding behind reasons they are superior, and we are not.

    Please get into the habit of citing sources to expound your opinions and be prepared to be wrong For this a valued conversation.

    “I do not know who PC is…”

    What a weasly statement. Marxists use this. But for the Socialist masses, it is simply ingrained into the herd. They need Experts to run their lives, and how easy then for an Expert to appear on youtube.

    • If you are going to advocate a vaccine associated with the highest number of adverse events and the highest number of deaths of any vaccine in history and you don’t have a medical degree and the necessary medical foundation on which to base your advocacy, then you my friend are morally culpable if anyone is influenced by your propaganda ,into taking the shot ,and dies or suffers a lifelong disability

  5. Thanks PC. Good work. BUT:

    “…The bottom line is that the best way to forestall the development of further variants, one or more of which might be able to evade the immune response, whether due to prior infection or due to vaccination, is by vaccinating as many people as possible as fast as possible and following public health interventions…”

    There was never a successful vax against any corona for a reason, right? This reason has not changed. Playing wack-a-mole with mRNAs and “variants” seems a ghoulish sport given history, and the laundry list of lies our eyes can see. And it is not folly to be suspicious for unarticulated reasons.

    Further, given that the economic catastrophe we are soon to witness can ONLY be intentional (because we see central banks trying so very hard to destroy their currencies), collateral damage from C19 public health interventions are a “bottom line” to Hell, as are many good intentions.

    Plus, we have learned that a virus with animal reservoirs cannot be forestalled in any permutation. Is the folly and menace not in believing it can be?

  6. Covid – with a survival rate of 99.97% without treatment needs masks/ social distancing/ etc? And now needs mass “vaccination” (mRnA gene therapy injection) to get out of this? Out of what? The disease is clearly not the problem. Only since mass mRnA gene therapy injection have people started having a lot of medical problems. That’s what I have seen, no one in my life were sick with it or anyone I knew since “pandemic” started until early this summer. Then all of a sudden people of all ages in my life were having medical issues, and lots of people, and a bunch just dropping dead suddenly. Only thing that changed were the gene therapy injections had been rolled out earlier this year. There is no reason to entertain the thought of “vaccination” for covid 19 with a survival rate of 99.97% without treatment, and because of this great site we all know here that there are many treatments. So why this experimental gene therapy shot forced on the world?, common sense would tell us it is not for our health or our own good.

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