Teenager lashed 100 times in Timbuktu for having child out of wedlock

Telegraph:

An 18-year-old pregnant woman and her boyfriend were both lashed 100 times by Islamists in Timbuktu in Mali as punishment for “having a child out of wedlock”.

Militiaman from the Ansar Dine Islamic group sit on a vehicle in Gao in northeastern Mali, June 18, 2012

Militiaman from the Ansar Dine Islamic group sit on a vehicle in Gao in northeastern Mali Photo: REUTERS
Mike Pflanz

By , West Africa Correspondent

2:35PM BST 21 Jun 2012

The sentence was carried out on the orders of Ansar Dine, a militant Muslim organisation that has seized territory in the desert north of the West African country.

“People were watching it was like a show,” said Mohamed Ould Babby, a local official.

“I was there, I saw the youths arriving at the square, I saw them being whipped, it is the first time I have seen something like that.” The woman, who was three months pregnant, has another child with her partner but the couple is not married.

According to Ansar Dine’s strict interpretation of Islamic laws, that means the pair have committed the crime of “fornication”, which is punishable with 100 lashes.

An Islamic police official in the town said six other women who had had children outside of marriage would soon be “punished by Islamic law”.

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10 Replies to “Teenager lashed 100 times in Timbuktu for having child out of wedlock”

  1. Implement shariah law in this country, which means rapists with be executed, this will reduce rape by 90% as people will fear being caught and facing death, we all know rapists are released from prison after a few years WHYYY !! they get out and rape again !! execution is the only way to get rid of the rape/paedophile problem in the UK !!!! going to prison doesn’t rehabilitate people it just makes them lose the mind and when they’re released they commit rape even more.
    IA
    http://www.londonschoolofislami.sorg.uk

  2. Kick muslims out of England and reduce rape by 95% as well as most other crime and lower the tax burden quite a bit as well.

  3. Many people in America compain about children out of wedlock wrecking society. The Moynihan report saw it as the main cause of the poverty of African-Americans. And lashing is not an inhuman punishment. White people who commit petty theft, or do drugs are thrown in prison for years, where they are raped and beaten by Black people. I think the American prison system is in many ways more inhumane than some forms of Sharia.

  4. Columnist:

    The problem with sharia has little to nothing to do with the punishments. Yes anti-sharia activists often use the hand cutting etc. as shock tactics to get people to oppose it. But the problem with sharia is…

    1. it does not apply equally to all citizens. Muslims are nearly immune to any punishment when it comes to a conflict of any kind with a non-Muslim or even a woman who is.

    2. That the methods of determining guilt are better left in the neolithic than in a modern courtroom. While most of us agree that OJ was guilty most of us also agree that modern methods of determining guilt or innocence lean towards acquitting the guilty instead of say, killing the innocent because someone accused them of witchcraft.

    3. Prison is not always humane this is true. But I think it is still the better option than most forms of punishment in terms of meeting the requirements of a penal system. Typically these are:

    Punishment

    Rehabilitation

    protection of society from them.

    And not in that order. Before you go recommending sharia, best if you think it through. It has little to nothing to do with the method of punishment and much more to do with determining guilt and why a person is guilty. While I agree having children out of a traditional committed family is often a bad idea, the fix is not flogging the people. It is changing the risk benifit so that it is in their interests to raise the family together. This means no more welfare (in Western countries for single moms) and means taking our culture back from the Soviet forces that managed to destroy the traditional family for us.

  5. Iftikhar Ahmad is entirely right on this point. This punishment was NOT carried out in accordance with Sharia law, this kind of mindless barbarism has no place in the Sharia.

    The correct punishment under a legitimate following of Sharia, as emulating the behaviour of Muhammad, would have been instead to have waited until the mother gave birth to the child, weaned him, and then at that point she should have been buried up to her chest and stoned to death.

    This would have been to follow Muhammad’s treatment of “the woman from Gahim” as outlined in Sahih Muslim Bk 17, Number 4206. I append the relevant passage for everyone’s reference:

    “There came to him (the Holy Prophet) a woman from Ghamid and said: Allah’s Messenger, I have committed adultery, so purify me. He (the Holy Prophet) turned her away. On the following day she said: Allah’s Messenger, Why do you turn me away? Perhaps, you turn me away as you turned away Ma’iz. By Allah, I have become pregnant.

    He said: Well, if you insist upon it, then go away until you give birth to (the child). When she was delivered she came with the child (wrapped) in a rag and said: Here is the child whom I have given birth to. He said: Go away and suckle him until you wean him.

    When she had weaned him, she came to him (the Holy Prophet) with the child who was holding a piece of bread in his hand. She said: Allah’s Apostle, here is he as I have weaned him and he eats food. He (the Holy Prophet) entrusted the child to one of the Muslims and then pronounced punishment.

    And she was put in a ditch up to her chest and he commanded people and they stoned her. Khalid b Walid came forward with a stone which he flung at her head and there spurted blood on the face of Khalid and so he abused her.

    Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) heard his (Khalid’s) curse that he had huried [sic] upon her. Thereupon he (the Holy Prophet) said: Khalid, be gentle. By Him in Whose Hand is my life, she has made such a repentance that even if a wrongful tax?collector were to repent, he would have been forgiven.”

    So to be clear. She should eventually be stoned to death. But nobody gets to enjoy it.

  6. @ Iftikhar Ahmad

    My own religious system also uses corporeal punishment. You forgot to tell that you need four witnesses to prove rape in Islam.
    http://oogenhand.wordpress.com/2012/06/21/the-solution-to-rape/
    http://oogenhand.wordpress.com/2012/06/21/a-similar-solution-to-child-molestation/

    @Eeyore

    We should reverse the double standards of Sharia. A Muslim cannot testify against a non-Muslim. In a way, the thing is a bit academic, as most people in the West are neither Jews or Christians, and will be put to death immediately if they do not convert. Although, could Iftikhar Ahmad tell us what Islam thinks of Atheists who pose as Jews or Christians, very common in the West?

  7. This is sick.

    I don’t care if you think the traditional morality was ordered by God or evolved over the years, it was the morality that gave the best chance of survival for the individuals and society as a whole. Yes morality changes over time but the current changes were forced on us by the left, they decided to remove all former rules without out replacing them with any new rules. this is part of the reason for our current social unrest.

  8. Richard

    Don’t forget government WANTS a certain level of unrest. It gives all branch’s of government a sense of need.

    Remember during the great depression which is worse then what we are in today had 10X less crime in the US. I don’t know how much less it was in Europe. It was even better during the 50’s when most of the world was conservative.

  9. IA there’s a greater number of muslims in jail as a proportion of the population than non muslims in the UK . Of course this is not their fault but a racist white people who gave you the opportunity to be part of the UK but you threw it back in their face. You speak of diversity but for muslims only . Laughable . Recently the scandal over the rapes of white uk children was done by muslims but again this was not there fault. Islam and sharia never blame muslim men. No it is always the womens fault or those dirty non muslims. Sharia is a joke as are you. It belongs in the 7 cenutury in an uncivilsed world in a hot sandy middle east country. I am sometimes amazed that in the 21 century we are discussing killing women that have been raped, chopping off hands, hanging gays and so on. THanks to the PC shit heads we have allowed people like IA a voice, a disgusting hateful barbaric voice in what is a cultured society. Lucky for you IA most british people are still asleep. But a time will come when you will be on your way back to a lovely desert land hopefully with the liberals who supported you. You will be welcomed to do all the lovely sharia things you want to them for they deserve it for fostering poeople like you on the west. Peace is you even know what that means!

  10. I know the leftist governments want unrest, they can use the unrest to justify taking more control over everyone. The lower crime rates during the Depression make my point, the old morality keep most from breaking the law, now the old morality is under attack and the crime rate sours.

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