Mich.: Witnesses May Have To Remove Veil

Ginnah Muhammad and lawyer Nabih Ayedfrom CBS News 

The Michigan Supreme Court voted Wednesday voted to give judges authority over how witnesses dress in court after a Muslim woman refused to remove her veil while testifying in a small claims case.

A statewide court rule letting judges regulate the appearance of witnesses, such as asking them to remove face coverings, was approved by a 5-2 vote. The dissenters said there should be an exception for people whose clothing is dictated by their religion.

Justices heard last month from a Muslim woman who sued because her small claims case was dismissed when she refused to remove her veil.

Hamtramck District Judge Paul Paruk told Ginnnah Muhammad he needed to see her face to judge her truthfulness. The 45-year-old from Detroit kept her niqab on during the 2006 hearing.

“If state courts can require people to remove their veils to get their driver’s license photos, they can require people to testify without a veil absent some extraordinary circumstance,” said CBS News legal analyst Andrew Cohen.

“The reason we don’t see many of these stories is that it’s absolutely fundamental in a trial for the judge and jurors and defendants to see the facial expressions of a witness who is testifying, unless that witness is in mortal danger of being identified,” said Cohen, so I think this challenge will fail.”

Some Muslim leaders interpret the Quran to require that a woman wear a headscarf, veil or burqa in the presence of a man who is not her husband or close relative.

After Muhammad sued the judge, the Michigan Judges Association and Michigan District Judges Association pressed a court rule that gave judges “reasonable” control over the appearance of parties and witnesses to observe their demeanor and ensure they can be accurately identified.

“No First Amendment right is absolute,” said Cohen, “and this one bends to other amendments which protect a defendant’s right to a fair trial, which includes allowing the judge and jury to measure the facial expressions of witnesses. So this ruling is NOT a surprise, nor particularly controversial.”

The two justices who voted against the rule Wednesday said they favored a religious exception endorsed by the American Civil Liberties Union of Michigan and religious groups.

Muhammad originally went to court to contest a $3,000 charge from a rental-car company to repair a vehicle that she said thieves had broken into.

The Detroit area is home to one of the country’s largest Muslim populations. Legal observers have said the veil flap is a cutting-edge issue that will arise elsewhere in the United States.


2 Replies to “Mich.: Witnesses May Have To Remove Veil”

  1. What rights would we have if we were to stand trial in a province of Mahoundistan/Sewagestan? The right to bare our backs for the lashes, to lay our heads on the chopping block, and no right to appeal those barbarians’ “judicial” decisions on the grounds that there are no true justice systems in the open sewers of Dar al-Mahoundianism, just to mention a few. But mahoundians can soil advanced Western countries with their dirty hoofs and demand all sorts of exceptions and rights when they’re in our courts, including the “right” to get leniently sentenced for (dis)honor killings.

    And, of course, those ACLU dipsticks had to side with the mahoundian swines on the mahoundian inferiority-denoting garment issue. If they had any sense of decency, they should go and try dressing like infidels on the streets of Riyadh, in order for them to learn a thing or two about these invading mahoundian aberrations with WHICH (not whom) they like to side so much against true human rights (not sharia-compliant ones.)

    And, by the way… If those mahoundian swines don’t want their half-men to take off their burqas and ninja masks, why don’t they take a quick trip to Mecca, Cairo, Mahoundianabad, Karachi, Sanaa or Birmingham, UK? I’m sure they’d find plenty of sharia courts in those places, more than ready to deal with their cases without any demands that their jihadist-breeding, welfare benefit-gobbling machines uncover their faces.

  2. Canada recently heard a similar claim from a burqua clad woman in a sexual assault case; her request to remain veiled was denied. Like Canada, the United States’ legal system is one which has been inherited, (although modified more so), from England. Regardless, the principle that a defendant, any defendant in a civil or criminal proceeding, has the right to face his accusor is a non-negotiable aspect of the legal code. Both Canadian and American courtrooms are places of absolute and full disclosure.

    It is entirely irrelevant what a Muslim religious leader claims as Quaranic intrepretation. Islamic edict has no validity in a secular courtroom; rather it is the stuff belonging only to the Middle East. It is even more preposterous that a woman would avail herself of a court system wholly based on equality and fairness draped in a cloth which symbolizes the exact opposite.

    It is to piss in the wind to think that such backwarness could vie successfully for a respectful place with long held systems of social moderation and legal advancement.

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