Seems the outrage, killing and rioting is more about us than about mistreatment of a book.
Obama’s act of self flagellation, as well as his order to have the generals of the US army also castigate themselves before a murderous bunch of animal-raping misogynistic savages in Afghanistan and the rest of the Islamic world, is perceived by his critics as an act of surrender and appeasement. And certainly that is a likely reason for it as well as the notion that by doing so, one averts more hostility towards US and allied troops in Afghanistan.
The other possible explanation is that Obama is so utterly confident in his superiority to these people that he feels he and the other US commanders are in such a position of strength that the real cost of these acts of contrition are not measurable. And this might also be true. Despite the truth of all these analysis, it was the wrong thing to do.
The right thing would be to say that prisoners who defiled the Koran (if you buy into that narrative at all) by using it to write incendiary remarks or communicate plans to attack, or in fact the people who printed versions of the Koran, the implications being that Iran did it, with changed or modified text to create additional hostility towards non-Muslims, lose their privilege of having this fetid journal of a madman in their cells and they get burned. If they don’t like that, then don’t abuse the privilege of being allowed to have this crappy book in jail.
An anti-U.S. protest in Mehterlam, Afghanistan, February 23, 2012
We have officially lost our minds.
The New York Times reports that President Obama has sent a formal letter of apology to Afghanistan’s ingrate president, Hamid Karzai, for the burning of Korans at a U.S. military base. The only upside of the apology is that it appears (based on the Times account) to be couched as coming personally from our blindly Islamophilic president — “I wish to express my deep regret for the reported incident. . . . I extend to you and the Afghani people my sincere apologies.” It is not couched as an apology from the American people, whose frame of mind will be outrage, not contrition, as the facts become more widely known.
The facts are that the Korans were seized at a jail because jihadists imprisoned there were using them not for prayer but to communicate incendiary messages. The soldiers dispatched to burn refuse from the jail were not the officials who had seized the books, had no idea they were burning Korans, and tried desperately to retrieve the books when the situation was brought to their attention.
Of course, these facts may not become widely known, because no one is supposed to mention the main significance of what has happened here. First, as usual, Muslims — not al-Qaeda terrorists, but ordinary, mainstream Muslims — are rioting and murdering over the burning (indeed, the inadvertent burning) of a book. Yes, it’s the Koran, but it’s a book all the same — and one that, moderate Muslims never tire of telling us, doesn’t really mean everything it says anyhow.
Islam 101: Spilling blood is not offensive.
Seven die in Koran burning protests
At least seven people have been killed in protests around Afghanistan against the burning of Korans at a US air base.
The latest violence raised the total number of people killed since the protests broke out to 20.
The governor’s office in western Herat province said six died in three incidents there.
Three people were killed when a truck full of ammunition exploded after protesters set it ablaze. Three others died in two separate incidents when armed men among the protesters exchanged gunfire with security forces.
Another protester died when Afghan security forces fired in the air to prevent demonstrators from storming a Hungarian base in the north.
Well Surprise Surprise Surprise!
Can you imagine? If say, President Reagan would have groveled before Stalin along with a bunch of his generals if they had damaged a copy of the communist manifesto?
Once again, Muslims show us that Islam is more of a fetish than a religion. “You hold this thing sacred for no reason other than I will hurt you if you do not” defines fetish. Religious people tend to hold things sacred because there is something of great personal value and meaning to them inside it.
BAGRAM, Afghanistan (Reuters) – About 2,000 Afghans protested outside the main U.S. military base in Afghanistan on Tuesday over a report that foreign soldiers improperly disposed of copies of the Koran.
U.S. helicopters fired flares to try to break up as many as 2,000 demonstrators who massed outside several gates to the base, chanting anti-foreigner slogans and throwing stones.
Roshna Khalid, the provincial governor’s spokeswoman, said copies of the Muslim holy book had been burnt inside Bagram airbase, an hour’s drive north of the capital Kabul, citing accounts from local laborers.
“The laborers normally take the garbage outside and they found the remains of Korans,” Khalid said.
NATO’s top general in Afghanistan attempted to contain fury over the incident, which could be a public relations disaster for the U.S. military as it tries to pacify the country ahead of the withdrawal of foreign combat troops in 2014.
This is interesting. And endorsed by Hillary Clinton who I thought was a lot smarter than this.
Here are a few gems from this article:
“The workshop will represent a quantum leap in media action, as it discusses, beyond rhetoric, the practical steps to address the phenomenon of Islamophobia,” the OIC said.
Resolution 16/18 aims to combat intolerance, negative stereotyping and stigmatisation of discrimination, incitement to violence, and violence against persons based on religion or belief.
Well of course this is preposterous. The idea that one cannot discriminate based on belief. In essence this means that Islam and only Islam will have the right to preach genocide, war, discrimination and apartheid as it is central dogma to the belief system, while any attempt to point this out will result in a criminal charge at best. A visit from the local sharia-brownshirts at worst.
The second quote is by necessity self contradicting. Clearly the Muslim belief that only Muslims may enter Mecca or Yathrib (Medina) will be sacrosanct while say, someone else’s belief that no Muslims should work, visit or live somewhere will be illegal.
So no, it will not be a protection for persons based on religion or belief. It will be a shield for Muslims to commit any discriminatory act they wish, say whatever they wish, force complicity for whatever policy they wish while anyone else will be criminalized for having their own views. This will be the practical outcome. One only needs look at any nation where Islam has over 10% of the population and is anywhere close to “the whip hand” (as Enoch Powell is noted for reading from a constituent’s letter.)
In other words, it is highly unlikely that my firm belief in freedom of speech. In the right, no; the responsibility to mock, chastise, and criticize both anonymously (as is my right by law as a central tenet of democracy) and openly totalitarian and authoritarian and indeed, ultra conservative systems like Islam and other theocracies which remove my individual rights will not be protected under this new bill. If it did, it would be redundant by U.N standards itself according to Eleanor Roosevelt’s charter.
In fact, the Muslim nations are so very far out of bounds of this charter that it utterly boggles the mind that any UN or official from any civilized nation would entertain any sort of ‘rights’ law suggested by a Muslim nation and perhaps least of all Saudi Arabia. (although that would be highly debatable) It is critical to remember that people have rights. Beliefs do not. This should be said as a mantra by all and daily. One cannot give rights to a political system, a belief system or an alternative physics. People can have rights so long as we are prepared to fight for them. Belief systems are to be promoted or opposed as people see fit and in their own enlightened interests.
I hope all people carefully asses the risk-benifit equation of freedom and liberty vs. what they think they might lose by opposing the rapid encroachment of Islam and it’s barbarous and horrific laws on all of us.
And so for those who will defend freedom of speech, and also for those who believe in a totalitarian theocracy, I dedicate this video:
One thing is for sure. That mosque needs a new security camera. That is the blurriest video I have seen since Blair Witch. I think they could hire a guy to sit in the lobby and draw everyone who comes in and get a clearer picture. Makes me wonder why they did that. Could it be that the perp is a Hindu?
A former soldier has been sentenced to 70 days in prison for setting fire to a copy of Muslim holy book the Koran in the centre of Carlisle.
Andrew Ryan had previously admitted religiously aggravated harassment and theft of a Koran from a library.
The 32-year-old, of Summerhill, said he had been “shocked” watching a Muslim burning a poppy on Remembrance Day.
Shoppers and schoolchildren witnessed the burning, outside the old Town Hall, on 19 January.
Sitting at Carlisle Magistrates’ Court, District Judge Gerald Chalk described it as a case of “theatrical bigotry”.
‘My country’He said: “It was pre-planned by you as you stole the book deliberately.
“You went out to cause maximum publicity and to cause distress.”
Ryan struggled with security guards in court after the sentence was passed.
While being handcuffed he shouted: “What about my country? What about burning poppies?”
About 10 people were in court to support Ryan, and as they left the court they shouted “do you call this justice?”.
After sentencing, Insp Paul Marshall, of Cumbria Police, said: “This incident was highly unusual for Cumbria as we have such low levels of hate crime in the county.”
My two cents:
Since youtube took my channel down, I have about a thousand videos that were taken off line. Many were downloaded by other like minded people and reposted to their own YT channels, but many were lost altogether, some early ones I didn’t even have backups for.
So I decided to remake this one as I put a fair bit of work into it initially and it appeals to me at a few levels. For what it’s worth, I will stop making videos which profane Islamic ‘sacred’ materials as soon as Islam grants the respect to everyone else they demand for themselves, and when they stop demanding that other people hold their fetish objects as sacred on pain of whatever they can think of at the time. Usually death.
I indulged in a little editorializing at the end of this video