Dear USA:
I get that you are afraid of large scale black rioting if you impeach Obama and remove him from office. But I would ask you to weigh the costs of that against his engineering a military loss to the Islamic State or to Russia or a nuclear exchange. Unthinkable? Ask yourselves if I had said 9 years ago that we would find ourselves where we are today if that was also unthinkable. We know that the ROE in every conflict under Obama against religious muslims either by design or by accident has guaranteed a loss. In Iraq, Afghanistan and now against the IS. The only battles the US won created space for the IS to assimilate such as Libya and in a way, Egypt.
Turkey shooting down a Russian fighter strikes me as a move designed to put major powers in between the Russians and the Islamic State. So the cost of impeachment of Barack Obama may be immeasurably lower than the cost of keeping him in for another year.
From the Independent:
Turkey has shot down a Russian military jet which it says violated its airspace near the Syrian border.
The Russian Defence Ministry and Turkish Presidency, quoted in Russian and Turkish media reports, have both described the plane as Russian, and video posted by the Haberturk TV station appeared to show the jet coming down in flames.
A military official, quoted by Turkey’s Dogan news agency, said the plane was shot down by Turkish F16s, and that the pilot was given prior warning.
Various reports described the plane as coming down in hostile Syrian territory, and the fate of the two pilots on board was unknown.
(Video of take down and more photos at link above)
The photo below is alleged to be of the Russian pilot shot to death by captors as he attempted to maneuver his landing into safe territory
Pilot identified here:
Thank you Tundra Tabloids, WTD., Oz-Rita, Wrath of Khan, and others who sent in material on this insane story.
There is currently disagreement on where the Russian aircraft was when it was shot down. But one thing is for sure. Whatever muslim filmed it, was delighted by it.
UPDATE: Video showing cluster of delighted religious muslims surrounding body of dead Russian pilot
UPDATE 2 RT live feed on this story
Putin Press conf.
UPDATE 2 Related story on IS shooting down Russian aircraft with SAM
(Where would these dune dwellers get weapons that can defeat Russian counter measures?)
Syria: Russian pilots eject as Su-24 downed close to Latakia
the same in HD –
Wrong move…NATO in favor for Daesh…
What about Paris, monsieur? What about Europe, …WW \|/ ?
…For some oil?
…For a bunch of killers?
…For nothing…
Militia hit Russian helicopter with TOW missile launcher
DAILY MAIL – Syrian rebels chant ‘Allahu Akbar’ over body of dead Russian pilot after Turkey shoots down jet for violating its air-space… then chopper searching for co-pilot is blown up by anti-Assad troops
Turkish army has shot down a Russian Sukhoi Su-24 war plane near its Syrian border, officials confirm
The Russian jet had violated Turkish air space and ignored ten warnings in five minutes, army says
Putin called Turkey’s decision to shoot down the plane a ‘stab in the back by the terrorists’ accomplices’
Russia claims the jet, which crashed in Syria’s Turkomen Mountains, had been in Syrian airspace when it was hit
In response, Turkish army released flight tracking data showing where the jet violated its airspace
One pilot dead, the other reportedly captured by Turkmen – ethnic Turks subjected to Russian airstrikes this week
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3331558/Turkey-shoots-fighter-jet-Syrian-border-Local-media-footage-flaming-plane-crashing-trees.html
REUTERS – Davutoglu: Turkey has right to respond when airspace violated
REUTERS – Turkey believes Russian pilots still alive, seeking their release: government official
ANKARA (Reuters) – Turkey believes the two pilots from a Russian war plane it shot down close to the Syrian border on Tuesday are still alive and is working to secure their release from Syrian rebels, a Turkish government official told Reuters.
“Our units, who received the information that the two pilots were alive, are working to get them from opposition rebels safely,” the official said.
http://news.yahoo.com/turkey-believes-russian-pilots-still-alive-seeking-release-163238526.html
Protesters rally outside Russian embassy in Ankara
the Blaze – Following Shoot-Down of Russian Jet, Obama Says ‘Turkey Has the Right to Defend Its Territory and Air Space’
Amid questions over Turkey shooting down a Russian plane, President Barack Obama said much of the problem is Russia’s lack of focus in fighting the Islamic State.
“Turkey, like every country has the right to defend its territory and air space,” Obama said Tuesday during a joint press conference with French President Francois Hollande. “It’s important right now to make sure Turkey and Russia are talking to each other.”
But Obama went on to criticize the policy of the Russian government for trying to keep Syrian dictator Bashar Assad in power.
“It points to an ongoing problem with Russian operations in that they are operating close to a Turkish border and going after Syrian rebels,” Obama said. “If Russia concentrated on ISIL, some of those conflicts are less likely to occur.”
“Our view from the start, Russia is welcome to be part of this broad-based coalition,” Obama continued. “The problem has been Russia’s focus with propping up Assad rather than ISIL.”
Hollande said, “We must prevent an escalation,” and that the U.S., France, Turkey and Russia must work together to combat the Islamic State and find a political solution in Syria.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/11/24/obama-turkey-has-the-right-to-defend-its-air-space/
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey-has-right-to-defend-territory-air-space-obama-says.aspx?pageID=238&nid=91631&NewsCatID=352
BREAKING
Roubaix hostage situation ongoing Reuters cites medical services and says several people have gunshot wounds and a hostage situation is ongoing in the northern town of Roubaix, near Belgium.
http://www.forexfactory.com/news.php?do=news&id=567434
http://bnonews.com/news/index.php/news/id2733
Roubaix
Police are saying it is robbery, that is not connected to terrorism.
Turkish hypocrisy:
A formation of Turkish fighter jets violated Greek airspace a total of 20 times on Wednesday before being chased off by Greek aircraft, Kathimerini English reports.
A total of six Turkish fighter jets flying in formation carried out repeated violations of Greek airspace, according to the newspaper, which is one of the most respected in Greece. The reported violations took place in Greek airspace over the north, central, and southern Aegean Sea
http://uk.businessinsider.com/turkish-and-greek-jets-engaged-in-dogfight-2015-7?r=US&IR=T
Rotten filth, heinous Turk, as if Greece doesn’t have enough problems. Toxic waste poured all over her beautiful islands.
I hope Tsipras has paid sufficient homage to Uncle Vlad – like King Abdullah of Jordan, Sissi and Bibi. Hollande’s now looking east as well.
0’s struck a dagger through the heart of NATO.
Erdogan: Turkey’s right to protect its borders must be respected
Turkmen says his forces killed two Russian pilots
Turkmen commander Alpaslan Celik says the pilots of a Russian war plane downed in Syria were shot dead by his forces as they fell from the sky
So that makes this coward feel like a man?
Erdogan is financing the “refugees” into Greece and then Europe. Was this action an attempt to draw NATO forces into the Syrian shooting war?