Denmark: People forming militias against Islam

As I stated in the blog agenda here on Vlad, the logical and bitter consequence of governments failing to consider the histories culture rights and values of their own people, would be that those very people will form their own groups and violently defend them themselves. This is a bitter and terrible solution to something which could have been fixed so easily by simple acts of legislation.

In my little fantasy land where Neville Chamberlain was the exception and not the rule here is how it should have gone down.

1. Stop Islamic immigration and end all programs to bring in cousins wives and second third and forth wives.

2. End multi culturalism and deport all who actively preach subversion of the values of the host culture. Preaching genocide and conspiracy of course should be an easy prosecution. This means ending special rights for religion to bypass normal liberal secular democracy. a good thing all around.

3. Protect political freedom of speech and entrench the value of freedom from religion.

It would appear that for Denmark it’s too late. Danes are joining Hells Angels motorcycle and crime gangs in record numbers. These are regular danes who have no interest in either motorcycles or crime but want an organisation which will defend them from attacks by Islamic immigrants on the war path against Danish culture and indigenous people.

The civil wars in Europe indeed have begun. Please do not think I relish this fact. While I would rather see a war in the streets than the destruction of European and western secular democracy, my whole purpose in starting this blog was to help wake people and thereby governments to the urgent need to protect values that Europeans have spent rivers of blood to build and protect both from Islam and even its own irrational religious authority and thereby stave it off with intelligent policies as listed, albeit roughly above.

Here is the article I linked to above but do click through to the original as it has sidebars and extra stories relevant to the issue.

Eeyore for Vladtepesblog

Clashes in Denmark between bikers, hangarounds and patriots, versus immigrant gangs and left wing extremists.

More shooting in Copenhagen

Update September 15 2008

This afternoon 3 shots were fired against a Hells Angels related Tattoo shop ‘House of Pain‘ in Bragesgade in the infamous Noerrebro district of Copenhagen. Two perpetrators of foreign ethnicity drove by on a red moped and fired 3 shots to the windows.

Three men were in the tattoo shop; one of them was hit in the neck by a projectile, and was taken to a hospital. His life is no longer in danger. A baby was sleeping in a carriage directly outside the shop. A bullet went through the window missing the infant by only one meter.

House of pain is situated directly next to the Hells Angels support fashion shop Route 81.

The victim’s wife and baby were in the shop while the shooting took place.
So far no arrests were made. Source: TV2

Yesterday September 14, 2008 Two immigrants were hit by bullets in Rantzausgade, Noerrebro Copenhagen. One was shot in the back and one in the leg.

At least 11 shots were fired, a white Ford Mondeo and a Toyota Picnic are thought to be involved.

The victims were immigrants standing in the doorway of the Internet café Surf & Play, a well known meeting place for criminal immigrants. The nature of the weapons involved is not yet clear, but they were probably automatic weapons.

Riots broke out, when at least 5o immigrants quickly gathered at the scene, yelling and pushing up against the police officers who were at the spot. The officers had to release their dogs to disperse the crowd, until 10 patrol cars arrived and blocked off the scene.

According to TV2 News, this is the 15th episode involving fire arms this month.

Police sergeant Poul B. Hansen said there was no direct proof of involvement by AK81. Jyllands-Posten

Several residents said they were considering about moving out of the danger zone for good. The district of Noerrebro has been a regular battle zone for immigrant gangs and communist rioters for years.

The biker group Hells Angels seem to be coming back at the at the moment still dominating immigrant gangs, with their new support group AK81, which is increasingly gaining support from Danes who are not first and foremost interested in bikes or crime, but who have grown increasingly hostile to especially muslim immigrants, after ever increasing street violence, knife attacks, robberies and rape from the side of muslim immigrants.

The rates for violent crime and especially rape related cases have gone up dramatically with the increasing number of muslim immigrants. Large numbers of Danes, not otherwise interested in motorcycles or gang related criminal activity, are reported to sign up under the new banner of the HA support group AK81 ‘81? being synonymous with the letters HA), and AK probably referring to the famous AK 47 ‘Kalashnikov’ submachine gun, as well as meaning Always Ready [Altid Klar] in Danish.

For many years motorcycle gangs such as the illustrious Hells Angels and muslim dominated street gangs managed to exist side by side in relative peace, in the struggle for control of the market for illegal drugs, especially cannabis, but also other forms of crime.

The later years the ethnic Danish gangs such as Hells Angels were increasingly coming under pressure from the muslim gangs, who showed to be far more relentless in their methods, and much less afraid of the possible judicial consequences of their actions, besides being much more numerous, and able to draw upon support from much of the immigrant community not otherwise involved in similar crime.

Police and helped immigrant gangs by keeping down Danish bikers

One of the reasons that the immigrant gangs have been able to gain in strength, is because they are much less visible for the police than the motorcycle gang members, who are easily identified, because of their style of dress with visible logos, their more limited numbers and often also because of their physical stature.

The Hells Angels are tightly organized, and almost all members are known by the police, who have kept these groups under constant observation, making it increasingly difficult for them to defend themselves and their territories from the muslim gangs, who are much more loosely knit, are not easily identifiable and have their respective languages to complicate things for the Danish police.

In the recent past Hells Angels’ members have been attacked openly by members of the ethnic crime syndicates, and one of their properties has been attacked and demolished by immigrant gangs. Some chapters closed after that. But not only the police has more or less taken the part of the immigrants, practically spoken; the press as well has been an active player in minimizing the problem with the many criminal immigrants, and deamonizing any similar Danish groups.

AK81, the new Hells Angels’ support team

Now a newly established support group of ‘hangarounds’ has been established, and the Angels are openly recruiting for their team, saying that it is not neccesary to own a motorcycle to be a member. This has had a dramatic effect, and large numbers of young Danes are volunteering for the new movement, hoping that they will be able to contribute to the fight against the muslim invaders, who so far have been successful in obtaining almost total street domination.

The police, who have used all their resources at keeping the bikers in check, have used a far more soft touch towards the muslim gangs. Very often the police withdraw from confrontations, and leave demolishing hordes of immigrants untouched, contrary to a simple house search or an arrrest relating to the Bikers’ gangs, when they arrive in overwhelming numbers, ready with bullet proof vests and submachine guns.

Jaegersborg Street in Copenhagen

Only little more than a week ago, a gang of about 50 immigrants rampaged a whole street in Copenhagen Jægersborgsgade, a local neighborhood where some HA members have their homess, indiscriminately smashing up a number of cars. The police watched helplessly, and no arrests were made. The action was a display off of power, after bikers and their new supporter from AK81, had held a silent and non violent march through to demonstrate their willingness to fight for their turf.

Police powerless against immigrant gangs

Partly this is part of a government and EU strategy, which puts great restrictions on the police when dealing with immigrants and immigrant gangs. There always are the accusations of ‘racism’, and the muslim gangs are also much feared than the bikers when it comes to their threats to harm individual police officers or their families. Many policemen whose identities are known by the immigrant gangs, would rather not have their house torched or their loved ones attacked by the invaders who have taken their extremely violent mentality with them straight from the Middleast.

Cell phone Jihad

One of the most powerful weapons of the immigrant gangs is that they are able to gather large numbers of supporters in the run of a few minutes. They do this using cell phones. They have been using this method, not only for criminal gang related activity, but it is often used when immigrants get involved in traffic accidents.

They are on the spot in large numbers ten times faster than the police, when one of their fellow ethnics ‘needs support’. Recently a family father was knifed in the back during a standoff about a completely minor traffic accident. Anybody who gets into a confrontation with one of these often knife wielding immigrant thugs, risks getting into a war with a whole brotherhood, which doesn’t shy away from threatening witnesses, even in court, or on the steps of the court house.

The mainly muslim immigrants supported perhaps by a few Danish renegades, have often completely blocked off accident sites, to the extent that ambulances either could not reach the spot, or in other cases were attacked with stones and other forms of violence. The same scene often plays out when the fire brigade is sent to an ethnic neighborhood to put out a burning car or a waste container, and firefighters in some cities now refuse to work except under police protection, which often means a long delay when alarmed about a fire.

The cell phone organized criminal jihad of course benefits greatly from the immigrants use of Arabic, Urdu and other languages, making it much harder for the authorities to monitor their communications, while the content communication between the native groups is much easier to access.

Left wing extremists and immigrant thugs

But the biker groups, their AK81 supporters and the immigrants are not the only players in this game.

The extreme left in Denmark, known under various names such as AFA, Antifa, ARN, autonome [autonomous], SUF and countless other aliases also is involved. The last mentioned SUF group, actually is an official part of the organized left wing extremist party Enhedslisten, which is represented in parliament. But reality shows, that although there are many such groups, the people involved are largely the same across these red fascist groups.

The extreme left even has its own intelligence service, the secretive REDOX, and the closely related DEMOS outlet.

Both groups which have managed to appear in the mainstream media, as so called ‘neutral observers and documenters ‘ of ‘the racist activities of ‘right wing extremist groups’, as they like to present themselves.

This notwithstanding the fact that e.g. the DEMOS personel through the years has maintained close connections with convicted members of Denmarks first and most dangerous left wing terrorist groups the internationally connected Blekingegade Gang, revering the same ideologists and sharing the same sympathies for organizations such as the PFLP and the South American terrorist group FARC.


Elderly woman, one of the victims who were beat up with iron pipes by left wing extremists at a SIOE demonstration against Saudi delegation’s participation in human rights conference.

The police were present in great numbers, but still left wing anarchists managed to find SIOE demonstrators in a parking garage, and attacked them with iron pipes and knifes. The incident was first denied in the press, went unreported by most major TV stations and newspapers, and the police never seriously investigated. The attackers went free. Only a few weeks ago an 82 year old female demonstrator in Hobro was attacked and brutally thrown off her feet by a muslim youth.

During the last at least ten years, these red fascist groups have been able to turn any and all expressions from anti-immigration or anti-islamic organizations and individuals into a battle zone.

No matter who demonstrated for any purpose the anarchists deemed unworthy, even congregations mainly consisting of pensioners, were met in the streets by yells of ‘Nazis go home’, stones, paint bombs, firecrackers, fists and iron pipes.

Old ladies past their 7oth birthday have been knocked to the ground or hit with iron pipes, as happened recently in Copenhagen before a SIAD (a non violent anti-racist organization against islamization) demonstration, where two cars filled with people were attacked in an underground parking garage.

The left wing extremist groups have on several occasions been supported by some immigrants, who are always looking for an opportunity to riot, and the left wing extremists have also supported angry muslim mobs during demonstrations.

Vejle: violent clashes between ‘neo-Nazis’ and left wing extremists.

Just a few days ago, on Thursdag september 11, a short but intense fight devellopped in the city of Vejle in Jutland, as members of the left wing extremist group SUF, were confronted by a group which in the media was described as ‘neo-Nazies’, but as it turns out more likely was made up of some members from the AK81 support group.

This time the red fascists suffered severe defeat, and several were injured.

According to the left wing extremists themselves, they were attacked by ‘neo-Nazis’, which was repeated in the press, even though the statements given by the police were not supporting that theory:

The local newspaper Vejle Amts Folkeblad amongst others wrote the following:

.. The police would not corroborate the newspaper’s information, that any of the groups involved were actually ‘neo-Nazis’.

The police got a phone call telling that some red fascists had been attacked by a group of ‘neo-Nazis.

We could not confirm that they were really neo-Nazi, but we do not believe that there is any neo-Nazi presence in the city of Vejle.

There are autonomous [= leftwing extremists] groups in all major cities, says Jens Soegaard, leader of the special patrol of the local South Jutland police.

Nevertheless, the Vejle newspaper unashamedly used this title for its article:

Neo-Nazis and left wing extremists clashed in street confrontation

In the wake of this latest and other similar incidents, the chief of the Police Intelligence Service PET; Jacob Scharf appeared on TV saying that all sides in the conflict were acquiring fire arms.

In its latest annual report, the same intelligence service admitted for the first time, what most honest observers knew already more than ten years ago, that most of the political violence in Denmark is perpetrated by the left, and that conflicts mainly occur when ‘right wing’ manifestations are attacked by left wing radicals.

Well perhaps all this balance is about to change now. With the appearance of the AK81 group on the scene, this situation may suddenly become reversed.

Bikers critized for being unpatriotic

Interestingly, groups such as the Hells Angels have so far never had any sympathy at all from the political right, patriotic circles, anti-immigrationalists or however you’d like to define it.

They were actually criticized apart from being criminal providers of drugs, for cooperating all too closely with the criminal immigrant gangs, and I believe there were several non natives in, or very close to the organization.

In the past the Hells Angels and similar groups have never in any way let patriotic, ethnic or other such moral concerns come between them and their business interests. The Bandido’s group for example was or is ethnically diverse, but I am not an expert on these groups, so don’t take my word for that. I don’t know if this group plays any role today, but I’ll probably be updated on that in the days to come.

Well, it is impossible to describe all the details of the biker, muslim and patriotic conflict here.

But it seems like it’s a hard rain gonna fall..

This article may still be edited in the days to come.

Related and sources recent:

The Opinionator has a complete translation of a Danish newspaper (Politiken) article about the situation:

Hell’s Angels applications increase tenfold in connection with immigrant showdown.

The Hell’s Angels biker group is experiencing a flood of new applications for membership, in particular for its support group AK81. The group normally receives only few enquiries in its web-based guest book, but the past week alone has seen 250 queries.

Seventy-five of those enquiring have asked to become members of the AK81 group, or to be invited to Hell’s Angels parties in order to gain affiliation.

{now the content of the Opinionator article linked above. Click through its a great resource}

STREET WARFARE BEGINS IN DENMARK – IS BRITAIN NEXT?

I have frequently cited and written about the ever growing incidences of Street Jihad in the UK (ie: muslim gangs, quickly gathered together via cell phone calls, brutally beating – often a lone – victim). Several recent blogs are:

MUSLIM THUGS CONTINUE TO TAKE OVER EAST END LONDON

DISABLED ELDERLY MAN LATEST VICTIM OF BRITAIN’S “STREET JIHAD”

MUSLIM STREET JIHAD LEAVES BRITISH MAN BRAIN DAMAGED

MUSLIM GANG USES IRON PIPES AND CLUBS TO BLUDGEON 14 YR OLD ENGLISH BOY

RACIST MUSLIM GANGS ATTACK & RAPE BRITISH WOMEN

Any concerted police or law enforcement action directed at muslim gangs is lacking. In fact, the reverse is happening -law enforcement has allowed no go areas to develop throughout Britain -police are more afraid of being called a racist than stopping muslim gangs & protecting British people – muslim gangs are even taking over British prisons.

So this brings us to what I call – Stage II – in the absence of any competence shown by law enforcement in tackling these muslims gangs (in fact government, politicians and law enforcement have spit in the face of the general public by increasing the pandering to muslims) inevitably comes non-police backlash(es) to these escalating violent attacks. Note that such a backlash would most certainly be deemed vigilantism by the police who would undoubtedly deal with such people in a far harsher manner than they have the “politically correctness & apologist” protected muslim gangs — even though such citizen actions could be seen as self preservation by the victims-in-waiting.

This brings us to Denmark – another country that is under the onslaught of Islamization and who has also dealt with rampant violence, rape, murder, vandalism, assault and other atrocities committed by members of the Religion of Peace. Dhimmified police and politicians, in Denmark, have also played a large role in the escalating of the “kid glove treated” violent muslim gangs who are reeking havoc on the nation. Clearly what I call Stage II has begun there and it is only a matter of time before more such warfare dominates the streets of Denmark. Is Britain next?

For an excellent and comprehensive blog on the situation in Denmark go to – HERE

Below is a Politiken news article in full:

RECRUITS FLOODING TO HELL’S ANGELS

Hell’s Angels applications increase tenfold in connection with immigrant showdown.

The Hell’s Angels biker group is experiencing a flood of new applications for membership, in particular for its support group AK81. The group normally receives only few enquiries in its web-based guest book, but the past week alone has seen 250 queries.

Seventy-five of those enquiring have asked to become members of the AK81 group, or to be invited to Hell’s Angels parties in order to gain affiliation.

AK81 is a support group for the Hell’s Angels. The acronym stands for the Danish words Altid Klar (Always Ready), while 81 are the alphabet numbers for H and A.

Showdown
The increase in membership enquiries comes in connection with a showdown in recent weeks between immigrant groups and the Hell’s Angels as well as shows of strength by Hell’s Angels members who have walked the streets of Copenhagen and Århus en masse.

The Hell’s Angels home page has introduced a special AK81 page providing direct mail to the group, thus preventing police from being able to track approaches.

Going fast
A concerned police force has, however, registered the flood of interest in being recruited to what is termed the Hell’s Angels ‘mini-army’.

“We are worried that this is escalating and involving more and more people,” says Deputy Chief Superintendant Jørgen Isalin of the National Investigation Support Centre.

“It’s all going very fast now and there is no doubt that more and more people are joining. This is also happening on the other side too where large numbers of anti-social youths are supporting criminal immigrant groups who cause trouble in the streets and are provoking the Hell’s Angels,” he says.

HA no comment
Last month the conflict between the two groups cost the life of a young man. Since then the showdown has become more open, with shots being fired, hand grenades lobbed and marches in which the gangs show their strength.

“First of all it was the other groups that bothered the Hell’s Angels. Then they started AK81, and now they feel strong enough to arrive at parties, pubs and techno parties to show off their insignia. That is something the other groups won’t accept,” says Isalin.

It has not been possible to get a comment from the Hell’s Angels.

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24 Responses to Denmark: People forming militias against Islam

  1. Ordo Draconis says:

    well ***sighs*** I guess I’d better start saving up for a Harley if I’m going to survive basic traffic issues in the next 5 years, You see, I’m not living in the USA so it’s just a matter of time before my part of my country is swallowed up by Asian (Muslim) gangs, I hope another Democratic president doesn’t bomb the sh!te out of me for being attacked by Muslims like in Serbia.

  2. Muslim youths are angry, frustrated and extremist because they have been mis-educated and de-educated by the British schooling. Muslim children are confused because they are being educated in a wrong place at a wrong time in state schools with non-Muslim monolingual teachers. They face lots of problems of growing up in two distinctive cultural traditions and value systems, which may come into conflict over issues such as the role of women in the society, and adherence to religious and cultural traditions. The conflicting demands made by home and schools on behaviour, loyalties and obligations can be a source of psychological conflict and tension in Muslim youngsters. There are also the issues of racial prejudice and discrimination to deal with, in education and employment. They have been victim of racism and bullying in all walks of life. According to DCSF, 56% of Pakistanis and 54% of Bangladeshi children has been victims of bullies. The first wave of Muslim migrants were happy to send their children to state schools, thinking their children would get a much better education. Than little by little, the overt and covert discrimination in the system turned them off. There are fifteen areas where Muslim parents find themselves offended by state schools.

    The right to education in one’s own comfort zone is a fundamental and inalienable human right that should be available to all people irrespective of their ethnicity or religious background. Schools do not belong to state, they belong to parents. It is the parents’ choice to have faith schools for their children. Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. There is no place for a non-Muslim teacher or a child in a Muslim school. There are hundreds of state schools where Muslim children are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be designated as Muslim community schools. An ICM Poll of British Muslims showed that nearly half wanted their children to attend Muslim schools. There are only 143 Muslim schools. A state funded Muslim school in Birmingham has 220 pupils and more than 1000 applicants chasing just 60.

    Majority of anti-Muslim stories are not about terrorism but about Muslim
    culture–the hijab, Muslim schools, family life and religiosity. Muslims in the west ought to be recognised as a western community, not as an alien culture.
    Iftikhar Ahmad
    http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk

  3. Moses says:

    To Iftikhar Ahmed;
    Had your parents gone to work in KSA instead of UK you’d still be called a Pakistani and with Pakistani passport even if you were born in KSA. No such thing as naturalisation in the islamic world.We,in the West should have done just like the islamic world allowed your parents to work in UK only on a work permit then sent you back to your homeland. It is our fault to have given you passports. Muslims should never have been allowed to settle and multiply in the West. We don’t see your ancestral homeland doing so.

  4. Eeyore says:

    MR. Ahmad writes an impassioned and detailed response to the issues facing Muslims in the UK. It’s a shame its utter bullshit. Islam is a politico religious system that teaches nay demands dissent and isolation. If a word Mr. Ahmed said was true Chinese people would be blowing themselves up all over the place and creating the same issues as Muslim immigrants as would every other non Muslim immigrant group the the UK or Europe for that matter. While I’ms sure Mr. Ahmed’s comment here would surely get him a P.H.D. in sociology from Oxford these days the facts simply do not bear out one iota of that thinking.

    As a second thought, Imagine how far a Christian immigrant to an Islamic state would get if he claimed his violent raping misbehavior was because of monolingual or mono cultural teachers in Iran for example. My guess is he would get exactly as far as the gallows.

  5. Grace says:

    I assume Mr. Ahmad that you live in England. As a Canadian I cannot comment fully on the status of the British school system, but can endorse it, as our schooling style is derived from the same English tradition and is similar.

    Commonwealth countries approach learning in a secular environment. Academics and religion have been separated so that all children receive core fundamental learning equally in all subjects regardless of their familial customs and traditions. Since the state holds the primary responsibility of providing education at the behest and agreement of it’s secular population, religion is seen as a separate issue. Without the distraction of multiple religious and traditional demands in the classroom, teachers and children are free to concentrate on learning the subject matter and are viewed as equal, regardless of religion/ politics. Parents then are free to provide their own children religious instruction successfully and privately outside the secular school environment.

    Education is a human right and is the cornerstone of any progressive society. Britain does provide all people an opportunity to be schooled regardless of ethnicity, status, income and religion. Schools, all schools, whether public or private do indeed belong to the state. They are funded by the taxpayers, encouraged by the population and are accountable to the society at large.

    You are correct that parents have a choice to have faith based schools for their children and many have created private, religious schools operating successfully without financial assistance from the government. Secular schools are a reflection of a secular society and their funding should be the state’s only concern. Parents who wish to establish religious schools can finance them themselves, with help perhaps by community mosques and Muslim organizations.

    You have written “There is no place for a non-Muslim teacher or a child in a Muslim school”. I find this statement puzzling. If you believe England should fund Muslims schools, why would you deny access to a non-Muslim teacher or a non-Muslim child? If diversity, non-discrimination and respect are sought from the British public, then surely a Muslim school should extend space for non-Muslims just as the secular schools welcome Muslim students and teachers.

    Mr. Ahmed, I would like to correct you in your claim that anti-Muslim stories are not about terrorism but about Muslim culture. The majority of reports and articles written around the world are indeed about terrorist activity, with many coming from Islamic nations themselves. On any given day, barbarity is perpetrated on someone, somewhere, in the name of Islam. To report this fact is not anti-Muslim, quite the contrary, considering that most of the atrocities are committed by Muslim against Muslim. As for articles featuring Muslim culture, it is an important avenue for Europeans and by extension Americans and Canadians, to understand the cultural practices of Muslim immigrants settling in their countries. News and opinion provide an opportunity for necessary debate since many of these customs are in direct opposition to western values. Also understand there is no shortage of anti-Western sentiment among Muslims living in western nations.

    If Muslims in the west wish to be recognized as a western community, I would suggest rejecting the prevalent Islamist notion that the west is a Godless, corrupt, colonialist entity constantly undermining the Muslims and learn to live within a secular society without constantly criticizing and opposing it.

    Grace

  6. Salaam

    London School of Islamics is an educational Trust. Its aim is to make British public, institutions and media aware of the needs and demands of the Muslim community in the field of education and possible solutions.

    The demand for state funded Muslim schools is in accordance with the law of the land.

    I do not blame the parents, Imams and Masajid for the plight of the Muslim youths. All Muslim youths suffer from identity crises because they find themselves cut off from their cultural roots, literature and poetry. All of them lack self-confidence and self-esteem. British education has made them stupid. They have become economic slaves of the British society. They do not know where they belong. They are unable to enjoy the beauty of their literature and poetry. A man is a product of his culture, language and faith. They go hand in hand.

    The solution of all the problems is state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models right from nursery classes. The Charter of Islam teaches true tolerance and equality and indeed is more acceptable to all people of the world than the United Nation Human Rights Charter. Islam does not just mean a beard, a cap and a bunch of self-interpreted fatwas.

    Accoding to a research by Goldsmiths, university of London, bilingual learning can provide substantial benefits for second and third generation children whose families speak a language other than English. Even when children have grown up in the UK with English as their stronger language,using both languages aids cognitive development and strengthens their identity as learners. It is crucial that schools support c hildren’s mother tongue through bilingual learning activities connected with the mainstream curriculum. Now Primary National Strategy recognises the value of bilingualism and promotes early language learning. Policy makers need to encourage good practice in schools, otherwise, the potential benefits of bilingual leaning will be lost to future generations.

    The research also discovered that many second and third generation children are in danger of losing these skills if they do not have opportunities to develop their mother tongue through academic work at school. Bilingual children who learn in their family’s language as well as English do better at school. It is very important that parents continue to talk to their children in their first language.

    It is absurd to say that Muslim schools threaten the social cohesion of the nation. Diversity is a blessing and we should feel proud of diversity. The real threat to social cohesiondoes nt come from Muslim parents but from government that seeks to force these parents to conform with the state’s ideas about how and what their children should be taught. There is no evidence that Muslim schools are undermining social cohesion

  7. Eeyore says:

    If Islam is more important than any aspect of British life then one wonders why they move the the UK. The above lengthy inherently self contradicting bit of nonsense is to long and nearly random to sort through point for point. But it fails at the first paragraph. If one does not wish to lose any aspect of ones own culture, one which was furnished to him by conquest of Mojamed’s armies in the first place as Islam itself was never adopted so much as forced on Arabs and Persians, then don’t emigrate to western lands.
    The government of the UK owes you nothing. If you do not like British culture and if you are determined to keep your own Islamic ‘arts and culture’ (evidence of which is sorely lacking) then stay in an Islamic land.

  8. Grace says:

    I do blame the parents and by extension Imams and Masajid for the plight of Muslim youth. Once again Mr. Ahmad you miss the point. If young Muslims are suffering from identity crisis, it is not because they lack access to their culture, literature or poetry.

    I am a first generation Canadian whose parents came from Ireland. I have never had a lack of access to Yeats, Joyce, Martyn, Moore or Lady Gregory while schooled in the public system. My cultural identity has not suffered in the least. Britain offers all citizens access to their heritage with encouragement.

    Mr. Ahmed, why do you persist in such banter and bitching of British culture? Has it not provided you all of the access, opportunity, resource, stability, welfare, employment, diversity, religious freedom and political representation that you could ever hope for?

    By the way, there is no Charter of Rights in Islam; there is only the Quaran. It does not teach true tolerance and equality and is not more acceptable to all people of the world than the U.N. Charter. Ask the women of Islam, Jews and Christians living in Muslim nations how peaceful and equal their forced bondage to Allah is.

    Grace

  9. Adrian P says:

    Our govts are setting us up for this deliberately, cut off the Head of this Mosnter (preferably democratically ) which is our Govts.

  10. Eeyore says:

    Governments in Europe have grown to the point where they are a government with a nation as opposed to a nation with a government to borrow from I think it was Ronald Reagan. As a consequence they act not in the interests of the public but what makes things easiest for the government itself.
    Thatcher never would have let things get this far in the UK. Now with an extra layer of government with the EU the difficulty of actually setting policy which could peacefully solve these issues of Islam in Europe are nearly impossible. The alternatives are likely as bad as the problem itself.
    Either way it will mean an end to a healthy secular democracy. At least for a while.
    Tragic beyond words.

  11. Cathy says:

    Yes! No Place For Islam on the earth. Whatever religion who allow revenge and kills has no place on earth. The fact is Islam is not religion, Islam is a political movement. All their agenda is focused in dominate the world under Islam. Sick religion! Not even better than Nazi, Islam must kicked out from this planet earth.

  12. Iftikhar says:

    Salaam

    Children who attend Muslim schools are selected purely on the basis of their Islamic faith and their parents’ wish to choose a school in which their children can both practise their religion and have the widest possible choice of educational opportunities. Racism and Islamophobia in state schools have been contributing substantially to the alienated of Muslim youths. Majority of Muslim children leave schools with low grades because monolingual non-Muslim teachers are not suitable to teach English to bilingual children. Muslim children need to learn and be well versed in English to follow the National Curriculum and go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. They also need to learn and be well versed in Arabic, Urdu and other community languages to keep in touch with their cultural roots and enjoy the beauty of their literature and poetry.Muslim schools teach religious tolerance and harmony with others as a part of the curriculum. It is not about separation.

  13. Niccolo says:

    Typical Mulism “demands”. Why don’t immigrants bother to learn the language of the country they choose to go and live in?

    If I choose to go and live in say, Russia, without having made any effort to get to grips with the Russian language, I’d have a brass neck to complain that no one in my new hometown had bothered to learn English!

    Same with you and your fellow Mohammedans. If you want to get the benefits of being educated in an English speaking country – learn English.

    And *then* emigrate. Don’t emigrate, and only after you’ve done so, expect the citizens in that country to learn bloody Urdu!

    If you want the children of Muslim parents to be indoctrinated in Muslim ways of thinking, and enjoy the benefits of a Muslim culture, then piss off and live in a Muslim country.

  14. Iftikhar says:

    Salaam

    I have been campaigning for state funded Muslim schools since 70s but neither the Muslim community nor the British Government paid any attention to my proposal.

    Human beings are the product of their culture, languages and faith. All of them go hand in hand. One can’t live by faith alone.

    Bilingual Muslim children need to learn standard English to follow the National Curriculum and go for higher stuies and research to serve humanity. They need to learn Arabic, Urdu and other community languages to keep in touch with their cultural roots and enjoy the beauty of their literature and poetry.. State schools with non-Muslim monolingual teachers have been mis-educating and de-educating Muslim children for a long time. Majority of them leave schools with low grades. They find themselves cut off from their cultural roots, literature and poetry. All of them suffer for identity crises. They do not know where they belong.

    Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school.

    British tax-payers have been funding nearly 7000 Church schools for a long time and not a single Brit ever raised his finger against them.

    Now Muslim community has the right to demand state funded Muslim schools for their bilingual children and each and every Tom and Harry do not want to see state funded Muslim schools. If Muslims have their own school that’s indoctrination and segregation, according to British society.

    State schools with monolingual non-Muslim teachers have been mis-educating and de-educating Muslim children for the last 60 years. Majority of them leave schools with low grades. They find themselves cut off from their cultural roots and are unable to enjoy the beauty of their literature and poetry.

    British schooling is the home of institutional racism and native teachers are chicken racist. This is the main reason why all minority groups would like to have their own state funded schools with their own teachers. Now Hindu community has set up the first state funded school in Harrow and next year in Leicester. Black community is also thinking and planning a school for their children with black teachers as role models.

    According to a recent report, Muslim schools performed best overall, although they constitute only a fraction of the country’s 7000 schools. Muslim schools do well because of their Islamic ethos and a focus on traditional discipline and teaching methods. They teach children what is right and what is wrong, because young children need structured guidance.

    We would like all Muslim children to be educated in Muslim schools with Muslim teachers as role models. They need to learn and be well versed in standard English, Arabic, Urdu and other community languages. After leaving Muslim schools they can decide whether to follow their own culture and faith or follow western culture and way of life. For the time being they have no choice. All of them suffer from identity crises. They do not know where they belong.

    Please visit http://www.thereligionofpeace.com for more information on this crucial and complicated issue.

  15. Eeyore says:

    Iftikhar, I have a perfect solution for you! It will meet all your needs and criteria and solve all our collective problems. This can be achieved in two easy steps.
    1. Get the fuck out of Western nations
    2, Stay in Muslim nations where they clearly have better education and the whole place is Muslim. You can see the quality of Muslim education by the amazing accomplishments in science art and medicine in Islamic states. So go back there. Now. Please.
    Eeyore

  16. Eeyore says:

    Jdamn over at http://www.theforceofreason.com tells me that the above post on Muslim schools is spam and that it is posted out of context all over the internet. (Once again showing the quality of ‘Muslim education’ so I took the liberty of changing the URL in his comment to one of the best anti jihad sites online. This is the first and last time I will change anything someone else said, but as it is spam, it is deserved. In future I will just delete it

  17. taffyincanada says:

    iftikhar- Muslims have no right to DEMAND anything in Britain. Left unsupervised and to your own devices Muslim schools teach hate and jihad. They teach anti western values and blatant anti semitism. Your actions have spoken louder than your deceitful words have. If you believe what you just wrote then you and yours have no place in Britain. As a British citizen let be be the first to invite you to leave.

  18. jdamn says:

    “Racism and Islamophobia in state schools have been contributing substantially to the alienated of Muslim youths. Majority of Muslim children leave schools with low grades because monolingual non-Muslim teachers are not suitable to teach English to bilingual children”

    Stupidest crap I’ve ever heard, even after it’s translated into English. There is no racism on the part of whites in England. Everyone who encounters Islam will become an Islamophobe. That’s what interaction with Mohammedans does. No kids should be in public schools anyway, but to expect special public schools is ridiculous. If a bilingual child fails to learn the language of his/her host country as well as his/her monolingual counterparts by second grade, let alone graduation, that kid is unequivocally retarded. I’m a linguist. I know this. Stop screwing your cousins and never make another demand until Mohammedans bring more money into a country than you cost it. The depth of your malignant narcissism is mind-boggling.

  19. Iftikhar says:

    Salaam

    Bilingualism is an asset but British schooling percieves it as a problem.

  20. Eeyore says:

    Iftikar “Bilingualism” has exactly nothing to do with this and you know it. And frankly, if you have a problem with ENGLISH do not move to ENGLAND. If you want to see a problem with monoculturalism monoreligionalism and monolinguilism, please make your next stop Saudi Arabia where you will open a Protestant church and discover yourself in fucking jail never mind no government aid.
    If you want to bullshit people, you came to the wrong spot.

  21. magdoul says:

    hi
    Anything in this world can be used in both directions : good and bad.
    take nuclear technology , it can help millions and can kill millions .
    Islam belongs to our world , and some poeple use it to frighten us .
    We should blame not the whole islamic world because of some individuals .
    What Israel is doing in the world is clearly seen as inacceptable . But can we say that all jews are killers . Of course not. Can we say that judaism is frightening . of course not .
    I m a muslim and I can read the original words of our prophet :
    Islam is Mercy .
    thank you for mutual respect .
    Mag

  22. Eeyore says:

    Islam is mercy of course, only in the Islamic sense of the word mercy, meaning only to those who specifically have without reservation submitted to the wild fantasies of Mohammed. In other words, mercy in islam, according to Koran, means killing unbelievers willy nilly and by doing so, you get ‘Allah’s’ mercy as you are a true believer, the people who ‘allah’s mercy is reserved exclusively for. This mercy of course, does not extend even to Muslims who attempt to mitigate the horror and torture out of Mohamed’s revelation. In 2:8 Mohamed is quite clear that those who say they believe in ‘Allah’ and the last day but are not real believers, meaning attempt to reconcile with atheists, Christians, Jews or any non-Muslim group, should expect to be murdered in this life and eternal hell fire (Allah loves fire, he plans fire for pretty much everyone except those who blow Mohamed nightly) like any other unbeliever. So dear Magdoul, either you are practicing Al Taqyyia in order to lull us all back to sleep, or you are a genuinly nice fellow trying to believe, and make others believe that Islam is a nice thing, just like Christianity but with a towel on its head.

    If this is the case, you are in more danger from your fellow Muslims as an apostate than I am as a shrill critic of Islam.

  23. abdu_shaitan says:

    @magdoul

    could you explain Koran 5:51, and 9:111 ?

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